Pics of 27 litre Rolls Royce Meteor engine installation

[Al Rush]

Hi Mark,

Thanks. No, they're not fitted yet. As they are, the car may require some serious structural mods to make them even physically fit. Their capacity is such too, that the lag may be horrendous, so we might end up changing them for either just one, or two smaller ones. They are works of art though, bootiful jobs, AET know their onions. They're looking at the turbos we found for our track day Rolls, next week.



The aim with the Rover this year was always to get the car up and running, and we'd have liked to probe its performance before the summer was out. Realistically, I don't think thats going to happen now, we're still waiting for the custom exhausts to be finished. We can run it at Bruntingthorpe and get some good times, but we aren't going to have the time to start seriously looking at problems which'll affect the car's upper limits. The car has to be painted too (prob gloss black), never enough time eh?

www.bruntingthorpe.com/
www.aet-turbos.co.uk/

[Al Rush]

Cheers Chris, we have fun working on it too.

[Al Rush]

simon 308 said:

G,day Al, New to this site...anyway you have done one hell of a job shoe horning that beast into a rover, I must admit that is one thing I never thought I would see in the mighty SD. I was wondering why you were thinking of putting turbos on rather than superchargers as superchargers would fix any turbo lag problems.If you are interested a bloke over here in Oz built a 55 chev with a merlin in it and kept the 2 stage superchargers on it, here is the website.

www.rodshop.com.au/project55.htm

Top job I look forward to seeing the finished project.

Cheers

Thanks chaps, for the kind words and Heavy, you're abloke after our own hearts!

Simon,

I suppose we need to be realistic about cost. The supercharger is working all the time, whereas turbos are on demand, and can be more efficient. They're cheaper second hand, and a lot easier to work with too, in terms of spare parts and the rest of it. We'll set it up right, there won't be too much lag with the right one, and anyway, the torque should be enough to see us through any of that.

Good website, cheers. Passed that one onto Charles.

[Al Rush]

Yeah, that was us. It overheated like a bugger, I think we were down to about 6 mpg at one point too. Great laugh though, we thought about painting invasion stripes on it.

Memo to self: Get lpg.

[Al Rush]

Hi Gilran,

Nice to hear from you, thanks for your thoughts.

We're inclined to agree about the turbo lag issue too. The manifolds are home made by Charley (which means they're as good as anything you'll get made for you by a pro too). They're tubular, very straigtforward and with creases set in concertina fashion throughout to absorb the increases in temps. The first ones didn't have them, and as a result, the manifolds kept blowing off when they got hot(you live and learn etc).

There's not a lot of space under there anyway, and the bonnet has now been modified with the bulge, so straight out exhausts are probably not on the cards. As it is, putting the turbos in is going to get heads scratching. If we can solve it, those turbos may be in there yet.

Great links, thanks, and welcome to the board too.

Al.

[Al Rush]

Gilran said:

By the way, since the Meteor is a gasoline engine, have you been thinking about ceramical coating? As far as I have understood, it could reduce the heat in the engine, since most of the produced heat would be extracted from the engine through the exhaust system. I understood they have been coating piston heads, combustion chambers, valves and vents to prevent the heat from absorbing into the cylinder block, deck and coolant system, and exhaust manifolds from the outside in order to reduce the heat radiating to the engine room. Of course I don't know better about this, but I've heard they've been doing this to dragster engines at least.
And I don't know how long-lasting the ceramical coating can be, but it might help with the heating-problem? Of course, it costs if you want it properly made..

And btw, sorry for my surely incorrect English

Your finely crafted prose does you credit sir.

2 things then. Firstly, the entire budget has to come in at under £10,000, which is one of the reasons its taken so long. And that means that every penny spent has to be done so, wisely. Which leads on to Point #2. I wonder if we'd get value for money from ceramic coating? Would it be able to cope with the Meteor, I wonder? If anyone has any experience of it, I'd be grateful for their thoughts. In all honesty, we haven't much thought about it, although the existing set up is pretty efficient.

[Al Rush]

Zad said:

4WD said:

How about running NO2 for cooling only, without actually injecting it?

In that case, what about water injection?

We thought about NO2, for that initial punch. Not for cooling though. Would the benefits of it (and water) be worth it? How does it work, simply for cooling? What are the practical aspects of installing it? Is it the same as for using it simply to generate power? I'm not familiar with it being used in that sense, cheers for any info.

[Al Rush]

The Rover is MOT'd.

Anyone going to The Carrington Arms next Tuesday? As long as its not raining (no windscreen), the Rover will be there.

It should do 186 mph at 2,500 rpm. On a private slip road earlier today (cough), it carefully probed up to 2,000 rpm.

www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=470000.195200668&Y=310000.644952216&width=500&height=300&client=public&gride=471049.195200668&gridn=312006.644952216&srec=0&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&scale=100000&out.x=11&out.y=8

[Al Rush]

If someone can do something about the length of that link, please let me know!

[Al Rush]

Ho ho... oh my, ho ho.

[Al Rush]

Have glasses, will travel.


PJR: See you at the pub mebbe,

FM. Thats just about it I guess, on a budget anyway. To beat the VW Veyron, we now need to be smart.

[Al Rush]

Sorry, its not tomorrow at all is it? Its the week after. The 12th.

[Al Rush]

Incidentally, we donned flat caps yesterday, and went for a Sunday morning drive.






Edit: Do you think it'd be a pull?

Edited by Al Rush on Monday 4th September 09:55

[Al Rush]

Thanks Emma, I believe its the 12th, the second Tuesday of each month. I've dropped a post there.

Edit: You going? I understand that you're a freelance snapper and quite local to us. This of course, is the PH network coming into its own.

Edited by Al Rush on Monday 4th September 11:22

[Al Rush]

I'm going to try and sneak in next to the catering van..

[Al Rush]

PJR said:

Psst, Al, i had a couple of Q's for you near the end of the previous page..

btw, picked up a copy of the mag, good stuff! I was rather interested in the BMW 335i E30 Turbo too
Cheers, P

Hi PJ.

Yup, they are from the Jag, and the wheel is on the left because there wasn't room under the bay for it to go on the right. Its inverted 180. Its from a BMW 5 Series.

[Al Rush]

J111 said:

Al Rush said:

Do you think it'd be a pull?

Wouldn't you have some explaining to do if it were ? Surely that should be a Q plate ?

Mmm. Because the VIN plate is in the same place, the MoT stn is happy to test and pass it as is. Under that proposed new regulation, who knows?

[Al Rush]

EmmaP said:

Al Rush said:

Edit: You going? I understand that you're a freelance snapper and quite local to us. This of course, is the PH network coming into its own.

I've just checked in the Midland's forum and it is now confirmed to be the 12th. It is in my diary I am indeed a snapper, but I prefer the title photographer Looking forward to meeting you and seeing the crazy beast.

You too Emma. If all goes well, we'll take the Rover and the Rolls. Sept is usually the last hurrah before the weather turns.

[Al Rush]

Drama with the Rover last week. Sorry the shots aren't edited or captioned. They show how the gearbox gave up the ghost, not through an inability, but through FOD. Snag now fixed. We made quite a recovery convoy..

[Al Rush]

I’m gratified by your concern chaps! BG, my knees went weak too.

When we opened it up, the was a lot of swarf in there, but there was no sign of any other damage or wearing which would have confirmed Foreign Object Damage. Perhaps the point of fracture was just weaker, although overall, the box is strong enough with the set up in place. So we might have to just tick the ‘bugger.. just one of those things’ option.