Fuel strike imminent -
Discussion
zcacogp said:
OK, so Opec pushed up supply by 2m barrels/day.
Which sounds like it won't make much difference to the price.
So, what next folks? Where is the blue touchpaper, 'cos I just happen to have a fag lighter here and am feeling all itchy - kind of like I need to use it.
Oli.
If it's anything like the States it will make a negligable impact. The biggest problem in the States is not a lack of Crude, it is a lack of refining capacity. The lentilists will not allow more refineries to be built. It doesn't really matter if more crude flows in if we can't make it palatable to our engines...
ErnestM
ErnestM said:
If it's anything like the States it will make a negligable impact. The biggest problem in the States is not a lack of Crude, it is a lack of refining capacity. The lentilists will not allow more refineries to be built. It doesn't really matter if more crude flows in if we can't make it palatable to our engines...
ErnestM
But it might settle prices a bit. The only chance if the price were to settle down to the mid to lower 30 per barrel to push our per gal prices down to about $1.50 would be nice according to latest reports.
Gazboy said:
Gazboy said:
How do you over-throw a government?
Overthrow your own goverment or that of another country?
Our own, baring in mind we are an unarmed populace.
We'll sneak you some armaments over. We'll take payment in Tuscans, Noble M14's and the odd Macca F1 that you may have laying about...
ErnestM
Gazboy said:
Gazboy said:
How do you over-throw a government?
Overthrow your own goverment or that of another country?
Our own, baring in mind we are an unarmed populace.
I suppose the same way others have tried.
Send people over to the USA to raise funds under the guise of a charitable organization, then divert the use the money for subversive operations. Were are easily fooled or many would not really care.
You would have a strong base for donations as we are very sympahetic to your fuel prices and the taxes you pay for everything. I don't think many in the USA know just how much you people pay in taxes. No one deserves to pay that much in taxes.
markpetrie said:i agree 100% dictatorship here we come. i think the motorist is the new jew to be oppressed robbed and got rid of!! well up yours blair go and move to iraq i think they need some one to run that country
Maybe this is Tony Blairs transformation into a dictator its been clear for awhile he no longer listens to anyone and just goes about HIS business HIS way. Maybe him and Saddam have been talking, maybe that trip to see gaddafi was more than just a reconsiliation dinner (the plot thickens).
ErnestM said:
cnh1990 said:
Gazboy said:
How do you over-throw a government?
Overthrow your own goverment or that of another country?
Our own, baring in mind we are an unarmed populace.
We'll sneak you some armaments over. We'll take payment in Tuscans, Noble M14's and the odd Macca F1 that you may have laying about...
ErnestM
There are no performance cars here in Britain. Everything you have heard is a lie. Even if there were performance cars we have no idea how to use them. If you do invade us on the basis of suspecting performance cars are being hidden, you may have to expand your search into Germany.
zcacogp said:
I think this thread has become silly.
Shame. I thought there may be some real action against rising fuel prices. As it is, it's all fizzling out like a damp squib.
Oli.
That’s because it ain’t going to happen. 
No matter what party we have in government. The only way to reduce the tax on fuel is to transfer it income tax. Can you imagin any of them doing that??
Its been postponed ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3775727.stm
Fuel protesters call off action
Fuel protesters have postponed all action with the exception of a demonstration in Cardiff following "positive dialogue" with the government. The Fuel Lobby says protests planned across the country for next Wednesday will not now go ahead.
The decision follows Gordon Brown's pledge to look again in August at the option of whether to raise fuel duty.
Tony Blair said no decision would be taken yet but ministers had to be sensitive to the needs of motorists.
The chancellor said the focus should be on persuading Opec to get world prices under control.
Opec has agreed to raise production by two million barrels a day.
Mr Brown called that a welcome first step but argued more could be done.
Opposition parties want the 1.9p-a-litre planned duty rise to be scrapped.
'Positive sign'
Andrew Spence, senior spokesman for the Fuel Lobby, said the Cardiff protest will still go ahead as operationally it is too late to cancel, but the others had been postponed.
"With Gordon Brown's remarks yesterday, we feel it is a positive sign in the right direction," he said.
"We are being sensitive at the moment, especially when the government is making positive dialogue, so we are prepared to give Mr Brown the benefit of the doubt and see what his proposals are.
"We are planning to hold a number of meeting with government officials in the coming weeks to argue our case.
"The government is not wanting to seek protests and we are not wanting to carry out protests."
But Mr Spence warned: "This is only a postponement and if we do not get the continuation of positive dialogue, there will be no more warnings given."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3775727.stm
Fuel protesters call off action
Fuel protesters have postponed all action with the exception of a demonstration in Cardiff following "positive dialogue" with the government. The Fuel Lobby says protests planned across the country for next Wednesday will not now go ahead.
The decision follows Gordon Brown's pledge to look again in August at the option of whether to raise fuel duty.
Tony Blair said no decision would be taken yet but ministers had to be sensitive to the needs of motorists.
The chancellor said the focus should be on persuading Opec to get world prices under control.
Opec has agreed to raise production by two million barrels a day.
Mr Brown called that a welcome first step but argued more could be done.
Opposition parties want the 1.9p-a-litre planned duty rise to be scrapped.
'Positive sign'
Andrew Spence, senior spokesman for the Fuel Lobby, said the Cardiff protest will still go ahead as operationally it is too late to cancel, but the others had been postponed.
"With Gordon Brown's remarks yesterday, we feel it is a positive sign in the right direction," he said.
"We are being sensitive at the moment, especially when the government is making positive dialogue, so we are prepared to give Mr Brown the benefit of the doubt and see what his proposals are.
"We are planning to hold a number of meeting with government officials in the coming weeks to argue our case.
"The government is not wanting to seek protests and we are not wanting to carry out protests."
But Mr Spence warned: "This is only a postponement and if we do not get the continuation of positive dialogue, there will be no more warnings given."
ricardo g said:
Am I right in thinking the only time that fuel prices have been significantly reduced in the not-so-distant past was after the last lot of fuel strikes and then the petrol prices held firm for a few more years?
see here: www.dti.gov.uk/energy/inform/energy_indicators/ind6_2004.pdf Chart E6.2
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Friday 4th June 11:52
M@H said:
see here: <a href="http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/inform/energy_indicators/ind6_2004.pdf">www.dti.gov.uk/energy/inform/energy_indicators/ind6_2004.pdf</a> Chart E6.2
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Friday 4th June 11:52
Cheers, it would appear that it is the case that the only significant reduction was due to the protests, or did something else happen at this time? Seems clear to me the only way to get the goverment to listen...
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