New Ford Cobra
Discussion
As for the styling, I'm not quite convinced, there's something not quite right...FourWheelDrift said:
It looks a bit heavy to me. Might just be the design but I'm fearing this isn't a lightweight sports car.
Around 1400kg if the info on the fast-autos.net link below is to be believed. The claimed 600bhp gives more than 400bhp/tonne! Not too shabby!
Of course the weight could drift upwards and the power downward before a production version hits the road, as is often the way with these things.
I think it's pretty stunning.
M@H said:I thought it was built by AC originally, and had later a Ford engine sticked in by Shelby in the united states. Didn't knew it was manufactured under the Ford label.
Has there been a Ford Cobra before? 
Somebody please enlighten me.
ERR...
the Ford AC Cobra.. you know.. big engine, big noise..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:47
Well there has been an AC Cobra which was a hot version of the AC Ace produced by Shelby Cars which at the time wasnt owned by Ford and there was a Ford Mustang Cobra which was a hot version of the Mustang also produced by Shelby Cars.
So Bodo is correct...
>> Edited by Plotloss on Monday 5th January 14:50
So Bodo is correct...
>> Edited by Plotloss on Monday 5th January 14:50
Bodo said:
M@H said:
Bodo said:
Has there been a Ford Cobra before?
Somebody please enlighten me.
ERR...
the Ford AC Cobra.. you know.. big engine, big noise..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:47
I thought it was built by AC originally, and had later a Ford engine sticked in by Shelby in the united states. Didn't knew it was manufactured under the Ford label.
Whoa there Plotless, Badged on the side: 427 Ford Cobra, so whilst not actually manufactured by ford, certainly marketed under their brand.
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:58
M@H said:
The figures quoted are:
3075lbs (approx 1150Kg)
525bhp/tonne and all.
!!??
3075 / 2.2 = 1397
433 BHP per ton.
Cheers
Matt.
Edited to Add... Bugger.. beaten by Lex whilst tapping the calculator..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:45
Used my Convert program to go from pounds to Kg's, but selected the wrong pound - anyone know the difference between the two? - one has [advp][lb] (which is the correct one as we know it) and the other says [troy] which is the erroneous one I selected initially.
M@H said:
Has there been a Ford Cobra before?
Somebody please enlighten me.
ERR...
the Ford AC Cobra.. you know.. big engine, big noise..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:47
I thought it was built by AC originally, and had later a Ford engine sticked in by Shelby in the united states. Didn't knew it was manufactured under the Ford label.
Whoa there Plotless, Badged on the side: 427 Ford Cobra, so whilst not actually manufactured by ford, certainly marketed under their brand.
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:58
Matt, I didn't had the impression that the Shelby Cobra had more to do with Ford as TVR has to do with Rover
But then, we live in an era where Jaguar concepts are sold as Aston Martin DB7, the VW Phaeton Coupe is labelled "Bentley GT", and more money is raised for a Mondeo when it comes with a Jaguar badge.
After all, Chrysler is Maybach and Volkswagen messes around with Bugatti history, replacing the original VOLKS WAGEN with the Skoda aquisition.
It comes all down to marketing. If there are still any individual transports left in twenty years time, as we know them today, there will be four different platforms with fourhundred different marketing strategies built on them. Costly, but we're all individuals
sorry for the small rant
>> Edited for spelling
>> Edited by Bodo on Monday 5th January 15:14
M@H said:
M@H said:
Bodo said:
Has there been a Ford Cobra before?
Somebody please enlighten me.
ERR...
the Ford AC Cobra.. you know.. big engine, big noise..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:47
I thought it was built by AC originally, and had later a Ford engine sticked in by Shelby in the united states. Didn't knew it was manufactured under the Ford label.
Whoa there Plotless, Badged on the side: 427 Ford Cobra, so whilst not actually manufactured by ford, certainly marketed under their brand.
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:58
Although not strictly a Ford model, Shelby Cobras were sold through Ford dealers in the US back in the 1960s and Ford later bought the rights to the Cobra name from Carroll Shelby.
GingerNinja said:
GingerNinja said:
The figures quoted are:
3075lbs (approx 1150Kg)
525bhp/tonne and all.
!!??
3075 / 2.2 = 1397
433 BHP per ton.
Cheers
Matt.
Edited to Add... Bugger.. beaten by Lex whilst tapping the calculator..
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 5th January 14:45
Used my Convert program to go from pounds to Kg's, but selected the wrong pound - anyone know the difference between the two? - one has [advp][lb] (which is the correct one as we know it) and the other says [troy] which is the erroneous one I selected initially.
A unit of mass used to measure precious metals and defined so that there are 12 troy ounces in a troy pound. One troy pound is equal to 373 g.
I think the old one looks great the way it is. If they have to cash in on retro cars they could have made it look the same as the original and just improve the engine, handling and stick in sat nav and a few mod cons for the general public and it would have still sold well. The new one, i find quite difficult to see any resemblance with the original version. At least Ford's GT actually resembles the GT40.
From what I remember by watching television.
Uncle Henry was wanting to buy Ferrari. But at the last minute Uncle Enzo threw his toys out the pram and the deal fell through.
Uncle Henry was mightyly upset so wanted to humiliate the dominant Ferrari on the track.
Shelby had been touting the idea of putting a mother of an engine into an AC Ace. Uncle Henry said "here are the keys to the shed, go and give Enzo a right slapping and no mistake."
So it was Shelby who developed the car to race for Ford. The rest, as they say, is marketing.
Spelling is by chance so don't complain
Uncle Henry was wanting to buy Ferrari. But at the last minute Uncle Enzo threw his toys out the pram and the deal fell through.
Uncle Henry was mightyly upset so wanted to humiliate the dominant Ferrari on the track.
Shelby had been touting the idea of putting a mother of an engine into an AC Ace. Uncle Henry said "here are the keys to the shed, go and give Enzo a right slapping and no mistake."
So it was Shelby who developed the car to race for Ford. The rest, as they say, is marketing.
Spelling is by chance so don't complain
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