Discussion
lazyitus said:
XM5ER said:
I was an unbeliever until I tried it years ago. Scared the living crap out of me and I wont be doing it again.
So what happened?
The truth is, not much. But as a way of proving the validity of the "spirit" I asked it a few questions that no one else present could have answered. It answered them all 100% accurately, at which point I thought this for a lark. There are certain thing I dont want to be involved in.
Oh ffs, has knowledge of other languages slipt so far that people don't know basic French and German?
Think about what the French is for yes, then think what the German is for yes. I'll give you a clue - OUI and JA. It was invented by a psychologist and is all to do with your subconcious. You can do similar things by self hypnosis, such as teaching your hand to move certain directions for yes, no, maybe then asking yourself questions (kinda freaky but cool).
And here are some links for you all to look at:
www.google.com/u/JREF?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=ouija&spell=1
www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mouija.html
http://skepdic.com/ouija.html
Think about what the French is for yes, then think what the German is for yes. I'll give you a clue - OUI and JA. It was invented by a psychologist and is all to do with your subconcious. You can do similar things by self hypnosis, such as teaching your hand to move certain directions for yes, no, maybe then asking yourself questions (kinda freaky but cool).
And here are some links for you all to look at:
www.google.com/u/JREF?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=ouija&spell=1
www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mouija.html
http://skepdic.com/ouija.html
I noticed that someone lumped this together with astrology.
The idea that living things are influenced by the seasons and that they also adopt different startegies in life depending on the season they wre born in doesn't seem too wild IMHO. A bit like biology actually.
I've always been surprised that people dismiss this sort of thing as un scientific without any scientific evidence to prove the point. Just because something isn't in a text book doesn't make it wrong. An awful lot of things that were once ridiculed by science are now known to be real. Like the Earth not being flat for example.
I reckon it probably is mumbo jumbo but that's not the same as saying it definitely is.
The idea that living things are influenced by the seasons and that they also adopt different startegies in life depending on the season they wre born in doesn't seem too wild IMHO. A bit like biology actually.
I've always been surprised that people dismiss this sort of thing as un scientific without any scientific evidence to prove the point. Just because something isn't in a text book doesn't make it wrong. An awful lot of things that were once ridiculed by science are now known to be real. Like the Earth not being flat for example.
I reckon it probably is mumbo jumbo but that's not the same as saying it definitely is.
Bizarrely, just as I clicked 'Submit Reply' on that gag above, a lightbulb blew, which tripped out the main RCD for the house. On my way to reset it I stumbled on an airflow meter that someone had carelessly left lying around, put my foot through a 2' centrifugal fan and knocked my coffee over my new digital camera.
...and no, I'm NOT making it up...
Ian
...and no, I'm NOT making it up...
Ian
madmike said:
You lot are hilarious today. Seriously, pause and think for a moment.
Ouija is a BOARD GAME manufactured by Parker Brothers/Hasbro. Do you seriously think for a moment that they have some shaman or gypsie at the end of the assembly line waving a dead chicken over each and every board the machine stamps out?
Surely they have more than one, so they'd have to work in shifts. Is there then a witchdoctors union? If they bang their knee when doing the voodoo dance, can they claim Necromancer's Comp???
It's perfectly possible to make your own board and it will work the same way. It's got nothing to do with witchdoctors.
madmike said:
Everyone has a friend who has seen wierd shit doing the Ouija. I've seen wierd shit too, either sleep deprived in the woods, or when the Jack Daniels meter reads half full. That doesn't make a very compelling arguments for ghosts. I think you need to ask some more questions before establishing a belief in a piece of pressed cardboard.
Well, I've never done it myself, but everyone I know who has has been rather shocked by it. That's compelling evidence for something (spiritual or otherwise) so I keep an open mind about it. Simply dismissing the idea because it sounds too far-fetched is just plain ignorant
Neil_H said:
It's perfectly possible to make your own board and it will work the same way. It's got nothing to do with witchdoctors.
Piece of paper and gold ring you only need that. It has all the letters of the alphabet around and a yes no thingy in the middle
Be it a psychological state or a spirit, i don't care, it was an interesting experience. I would reccommend people feel curious about it to try it but not despising it from the first minute; some people have a strong faith in these things, and whether we agree with them or not, it is not nice to insult and despise their point of view without having tried the thing.
Nevertheless I would reccommend people who believe in all those things not to try it because it really can tell some not nice things that some impressionable characters will take as real. We asked about things that didn't have to do with our lives - since we knew that we could provoke the answers ourselves - but asked for example about the plot of a movie on TV we had never seen and it spoilt it all! the murderere was the butler! Appart from joking with it for a while, the invoked thing or our psychical reflex decided to convince us to stop doing it.
Neil_H said:
Well, I've never done it myself, but everyone I know who has has been rather shocked by it. That's compelling evidence for something (spiritual or otherwise) so I keep an open mind about it. Simply dismissing the idea because it sounds too far-fetched is just plain ignorant
Noooo, ignorance is not understanding why something happens, so you chalk it up to being paranormal and scary.
Yes, I've tried the Ouija board...many many times. When I was a kid I was into all that paranormal stuff. But I grew up, and once you understand how these things work, you see them for what they really are...parlor games.
There really is a simple test you can do. If there really is a paranormal force at work, set up a Ouija board, have your mates over, and have everyone concentrate, meditate, chant, whatever, just no-one touches the board, the glass, or the table it's on. It will not move.
For those who say that the spirit or whatever must channel through people, then that's a simple one. You basically have two solutions. 1) Someone(s) are guiding the glass either consciously or subconsciously or 2) there is a mysterious supernatural force guiding the glass.
Occam's Razor dictates the simplest answer be the most likely...someone(s) is moving it, not a ghost.
That's not ignorance, that's science.
XM5ER said:Calm down dear, it's only a game.
I was an unbeliever until I tried it years ago. Scared the living crap out of me and I wont be doing it again.
I scared the sh*t out of myself while playing this game with mates at uni. That doesn't mean it wasn't and isn't bollocks. We were stoned but whether or not you were pissed, stoned, tripping or stone cold sober you've just given yourself a fright... and that's it.
Mark
Try this experiment to show you what's going on.
Get 9 mates
Line up 5 each side facing each other
Hold you hands out in front of you
Stick your index finger out
Align them all at the same vertical distance
Now get a 10th friend to place a cane on top of all of the fingers.
All people are told is that they "have to keep their finger touching the cane"
Guess what happens......
J
Get 9 mates
Line up 5 each side facing each other
Hold you hands out in front of you
Stick your index finger out
Align them all at the same vertical distance
Now get a 10th friend to place a cane on top of all of the fingers.
All people are told is that they "have to keep their finger touching the cane"
Guess what happens......
J
An interesting fact about the Ouija is that well known games manufacturer Waddingtons actually made them once upon a time, not a lot of people know that!
"So kiddy what will it be Mousetrap or the Ouija?"
"Ouija please Mr Shopkeeper"
"Watch for the bloke with the goats feet and horns on his head"
"Aren't i a bit young for the mason's"
I'll get my coat
"So kiddy what will it be Mousetrap or the Ouija?"
"Ouija please Mr Shopkeeper"
"Watch for the bloke with the goats feet and horns on his head"
"Aren't i a bit young for the mason's"
I'll get my coat
john75 said:
I saw a horror movie can not recall the name set in Glasgow where a group of students were using one but they all got killed.
Anyone remember the name of the film ?
I saw that film. The name will come back to me!
I'll never try playing this game, hell I'd rather play true or dare! (Actually, I won't play that either).
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