RE: Bentley Continental GT

RE: Bentley Continental GT

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toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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They have put GT style headlights onto the Arnage.

And it looks bloody awful.

VW really, really, really do not understand what they are doing with the Bentley business do they ?

VW now make upmarket sporting cars for the bling generation. They are called Bentleys, but they are not Bentleys. Not at all.

I have nothing against the GT at all, but VW should have called it something else. Maybe, even created a new brand.

Bentley means nothing to the target buyer in SoBe Miami or LA. They do not know about Bentley's heritage with the exploits of Birkin and his boys, and they do not care. Which is fair enough.

But it also means that VW paying all that money for a brand they do not understand, was a waste of cash.

They might as well have announced to the world that they had designed a new generation of sporting coupe, and that they had decided to call them, I don't know, Rommels or something..

Calling the new car a Rommel Coupe would have made just as much sense.

Control

696 posts

254 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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furby said:

What is happening to Benley? I don't know and I don't like it.


Its called profit. And they are doing a very good job of it by the look of the waiting lists.

Makes far more commercial sense to knock out £110k cars like they were Micras than to sell a couple of £240k Continentals every month.

Perhaps they are without the handbuilt soul of the originals but they are definitely getting their return on buying the Bentley badge.

>> Edited by Control on Monday 13th September 15:28

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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Yep Bentley will make VW a mint.

VW arent stupid, they know exactly what they are doing.

You may not like it, but its working for them and thats all that counts really...

swilly

9,699 posts

275 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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For how long though?

Look at Burberry for instance. Icon of high fashion for a long time, decided to make fat profits by selling some high street lines, Chav/hooligan elements decided it would be cool to own some 'designer' gear and turned the burberry check into a chav icon.

Sunday Times reported Burberry are now worried at this chain of events.

What happens when Bentley solely becomes an icon of cheesy, bling-bling neo-rich fabulousness?

Are Bentley/VW going to be able survive on a diet of 'fabulous' US rappers alone?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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I saw 3 on the way home Friday night.

Its selling...

dinkel

26,987 posts

259 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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Yesterday . . .






And not so long ago


And now


"You can (almost) buy a house for that sort of money but, compared to other cars in this class, and especially compared to its predecessor, it's still a bargain."

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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I'm pretty critical of the VW approach to Bentley...

but...

I must admit that they are well made, fast, and good value for all that performance.

By all accounts the service backup is pretty good too, which is a good thing compared to , say, Mercedes.

Control

696 posts

254 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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swilly said:
For how long though?

What happens when Bentley solely becomes an icon of cheesy, bling-bling neo-rich fabulousness?

Are Bentley/VW going to be able survive on a diet of 'fabulous' US rappers alone?


The mass production/commoditisation effect seems to be happening to other badges at the moment though. Look at Ferrari, the 360 is the same price as the Bentley and is now the standard Tesco runabout of every footballer, not something savoured only by enthusiasts.

And the Range Rover is even more extreme. The old money previous version went right out the window to be replaced with the blinged up standard wheels of every drug dealer in the country.

Will be interesting when the Bentley hits the secondhand market though. Fuel consumption for 2.5 tonnes and 550bhp must be horrific and people in the market for a £60k used motor aren't going to be laughing at 10mpg.

beanbag

7,346 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Hmmmmm.......so the general consensus is that this is a nasty car that doesn't deserve the Bentley badge????

Well I just happen to know an owner and he took me out for a quick drive up the road (and it was a quick drive). This car was awesome although the thing that he told me that put me off was the lack of feedback through the steering wheel.

Not ideal for a sports car but good for about town or on the motorway.

All in all, it sounds amazing, looks pretty damn gorgeous and goes like a rocket with pretty good handling. A very deserving car for a Bentley badge. :-)

rpguk

4,467 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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My experiance being only seeing them on the street and not actually being in one (so not all that qualified to comment!), I'm not a huge fan, they seem too small and a bit, for want of a better word 'fiddley'.

They must be doing it right though because I've seen absolutly loads of them as well.

Saw a priceless moment though the other day, there was one parked up outside a restraunt on Hampstead High Street and someone must have touched it because the owner (I assume - looked like he could be a footballer actually) jumped up from the table he was sitting at ran over to it with a cloth and rubbed it down. Suppose you had to be there

jagpower

12 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Listen up,
I think that there are some peaple that have forgotten over here where the W engine came from,
it isn't vw
it isn't audi
it neither is german

ITS A BUGATTI ENGINE CONCEPT , and vw was coinsedently owner of bugatti when they developped the engine, and they gave the designs to bentley (and putted one ind a passat as well but that's a complete differnt story)

Sow please shut up about a german engine

door

713 posts

239 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Really I thought it was 2 VR6 engines running off one crank!

robdickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Seeing quite a few of these around merseyside now, there certainly popular for £100k or whatever.

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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dont forget, VW saved Bentley (via BMW of course). Its fairly well known that the Sultan of Brunei kept Bentley afloat in the 90's with all his orders for one offs etc, but when that came to an end at the turn of the century (one of the Princes had been overspending on cars!), then Bentley were in a bad way.

Bentley had to change, or their would be Bentley in the 21 century. With the exception of the rear, I love the car. Rear however is really dissapointing.

The forthcoming Saloon doesnt looks special enough. Its in testing masked up as a very passable S-class - which shouldn't be possible with a Bentley really, but I suppose thats what will keep Bentley afloat

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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next Bentley Saloon with disguise photoshopped out

http://img28.exs.cx/img28/449/msb.jpg

and with disguise

www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8362_image.jpg

flat16

347 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Every time one has come towards me I thought it was a Rover 75...

Looks to me like the unwholesome offspring resulting from grafting a Rover 75 nose, Hyundai Coupe rear quarter-light, and the arse of a Chrysler Crossfire together.

I know a stylist who worked on the design at Stuttgart, if you think my description is scathing you should've heard what he said... (he is obviously not a chief stylist otherwise the car would've been a lot better looking, instead of the vulgar, ostentatious chav magnet that it is).

flat16

347 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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I just clicked on Andy's link... Did Daewoo style the back end on that one?

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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true, has a hint of Daewoo Lagenza about it actually.

petrol_noggin

3,046 posts

221 months

Monday 29th May 2006
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Wow is it 2004 again?