Vettel to replace Alonso at Ferrari

Vettel to replace Alonso at Ferrari

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MartG

20,727 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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westtra said:
frown And poor Magnussen will not be allowed to beat him I suspect

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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HTP99 said:
westtra said:
If that is true then I hope it comes back to bit McLarens arse.
Said it before, but Alonso and Ron Dennis deserve each other.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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rj2k11 said:
There's only so much energy in 100Kgs of fuel and they're only allowed to recover a fixed amount of energy per lap, the differences in power available should be very similar by the end of 2015 into the 2016 season for all the teams.
There's no limit to the amount of energy that can be directly transferred from the MGU-H to the MGU-K without being stored though, so there is still quite a lot of potential for an advantage from a more effective turbo.

fatboy69

9,375 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I still don't get the McLaren 'love' for Alonso.

Doesn't make sense too me. If it happens - one less McLaren fan here.

To loose JB is not good in my opinion.

I too hope that it bites McLaren on the arse if it happens.

l354uge

2,895 posts

122 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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fatboy69 said:
I still don't get the McLaren 'love' for Alonso.

Doesn't make sense too me. If it happens - one less McLaren fan here.

To loose JB is not good in my opinion.

I too hope that it bites McLaren on the arse if it happens.
Same here, always supported McLaren but they're making it really hard recently, Ferrari-esk.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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To be frank I think a few people (I am among them) are less than enamoured with McLaren just because of how they are treating JB.

I think for me it is far worse because now it appears the car is getting punchy (well, in JB's hands) and able to do rather well. So having driven a dog for a year or two fighting for 8-12th, now the car is up at the front he gets kicked out!?!?

Bonefish Blues

27,124 posts

224 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Jasandjules said:
To be frank I think a few people (I am among them) are less than enamoured with McLaren just because of how they are treating JB.

I think for me it is far worse because now it appears the car is getting punchy (well, in JB's hands) and able to do rather well. So having driven a dog for a year or two fighting for 8-12th, now the car is up at the front he gets kicked out!?!?
On the basis of recent history there's little to worry about - next season's new car will be a dog again wink

Crafty_

13,308 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Ted just saying that McLaren are taking a B spec car to Abu Dhabi, probably only for test. Apparently the wind tunnel says its better than the existing car already.

Prodromou working his magic already ?

suffolk009

5,497 posts

166 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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[quote=fatboy69]I still don't get the McLaren 'love' for Alonso.

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I suspect it's Honda 'love'.

JonRB

74,879 posts

273 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Since everything is so regulated and controlled, I wonder if teams should be allowed a "post race breather, celebratory / comiseratory / chillout time" before having to pack up after a race?

I remember the race when they were all staying over for testing the next day, and thus not packing up, and it was so much more relaxed.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Ted just saying that McLaren are taking a B spec car to Abu Dhabi, probably only for test. Apparently the wind tunnel says its better than the existing car already.

Prodromou working his magic already ?
According to the boy Kravitz, yes it is his doing, and it's more 2015 spec than B spec; they will run it on Friday then decide on whether to race it.

I'm a tad sceptical that it will be 2015 spec, given how rabidly secretive the teams normally are about their new season cars. Or a McLaren playing a double bluff - who's going to look at our new car given our current one is such a dog...

Crafty_

13,308 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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the other thing is that when F1 cars are unveiled thats not what races, even pre season test cars aren't what turns up at the first race.

It must still be based on this years tub ? maybe they are making hybrid parts that fit this years tub but follow the concept for next year ? wings, sidepods etc ?

Will be interesting to see it. They are certainly making steps forwards.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Crafty_ said:
the other thing is that when F1 cars are unveiled thats not what races, even pre season test cars aren't what turns up at the first race.

It must still be based on this years tub ? maybe they are making hybrid parts that fit this years tub but follow the concept for next year ? wings, sidepods etc ?

Will be interesting to see it. They are certainly making steps forwards.
I agree that what is unveiled at the factory/Barcelona [or Bahrain (ugh)] is not what turns up in Melbourne, but the basic concept is there.

Like you, I am encouraged that McLaren do seem to be making steps forward in terms of competiveness. Although it is still sad that 4th place is seen as a "good result" for a team with McLaren's pedigree.



MartG

20,727 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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fatboy69 said:
I still don't get the McLaren 'love' for Alonso.

Doesn't make sense too me. If it happens - one less McLaren fan here.

To loose JB is not good in my opinion.

I too hope that it bites McLaren on the arse if it happens.
yes

stevesingo

4,861 posts

223 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Autosport reporting "deal finalised"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116713

Made me laugh...

Autosport said:
His decision to accept McLaren's overtures has, however, forced the team into making a difficult decision between Jenson Button and Kevin Magnussen for the seat alongside him.

The closeness of their performances this year has left the team unable to come to a swift conclusion about who should line up alongside Alonso.
Not really that close is it McLaren 106 vs 55 points?



Edited by stevesingo on Monday 10th November 10:49

stevesuk

1,349 posts

183 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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stevesingo said:
Not really that close is it McLaren 106 vs 55 points?
I also laughed at that one. I suspect its more about the wage bill.

HTP99

22,676 posts

141 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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stevesingo said:
Autosport reporting "deal finalised"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116713

Made me laugh...

Autosport said:
His decision to accept McLaren's overtures has, however, forced the team into making a difficult decision between Jenson Button and Kevin Magnussen for the seat alongside him.

The closeness of their performances this year has left the team unable to come to a swift conclusion about who should line up alongside Alonso.
Not really that close is it McLaren 106 vs 55 points?



Edited by stevesingo on Monday 10th November 10:49
I would love to see Alonso and Button together in the same team with no clear No. 1, it could well be an eye opener.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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HTP99 said:
I would love to see Alonso and Button together in the same team with no clear No. 1, it could well be an eye opener.
well, that will never happen.

HTP99

22,676 posts

141 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Scuffers said:
HTP99 said:
I would love to see Alonso and Button together in the same team with no clear No. 1, it could well be an eye opener.
well, that will never happen.
Nope, Alonso will demand it and McLaren will want to make sure that they are getting thier moneys worth too.

I've always thought it odd that someone who thinks so highly of their own abilities has to demand No. 1 status, Schumacher was another too which has always made me question his ability, as team mates were never allowed to challenge him.

I don't think jenson would want to drive for McLaren as a No. 2.

andygo

6,830 posts

256 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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HTP99 said:
Nope, Alonso will demand it and McLaren will want to make sure that they are getting thier moneys worth too.

I've always thought it odd that someone who thinks so highly of their own abilities has to demand No. 1 status, Schumacher was another too which has always made me question his ability, as team mates were never allowed to challenge him.

I don't think jenson would want to drive for McLaren as a No. 2.
Not so sure, would love to see him pee all over FA.