The Official 2016 British Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 British Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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jm doc

2,815 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cheddar said:
Great race
Well done Lewis
Unlucky Nico, he drove well, penalty seems fair, he loses valuable points, still leads overall, just........
Big thumbs up to Max, epic drive and as entertaining as ever thumbup

Thanks DrZ for more quality F1 input
"Unlucky Nico, he drove well", you're kidding aren't you, what was it, four seconds behind his teammate after the first lap!! And never even got close throughout the whole race whilst desperately fighting off a Red Bull most of the way round the track, even getting overtaken at one point. It's getting embarassing at times to watch him eg Monaco

Which race were you watching?

cheddar

4,637 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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jm doc said:
cheddar said:
Great race
Well done Lewis
Unlucky Nico, he drove well, penalty seems fair, he loses valuable points, still leads overall, just........
Big thumbs up to Max, epic drive and as entertaining as ever thumbup

Thanks DrZ for more quality F1 input
"Unlucky Nico, he drove well", you're kidding aren't you, what was it, four seconds behind his teammate after the first lap!! And never even got close throughout the whole race whilst desperately fighting off a Red Bull most of the way round the track, even getting overtaken at one point. It's getting embarassing at times to watch him eg Monaco

Which race were you watching?
I was watching the same race as you, albeit with an open mind

Nico was never going to match Lewis's pace on that particular Sunday but, in initially atrocious conditions, he re-caught and overtook Max, drove a solid race without an off track incident whilst everyone else was spearing off left right and centre and secured a pre-penalty 2nd place. Like I said, he drove well.
The 'unlucky' part was his gearbox issue and subsequent relegation to 3rd, neither of which were his fault

He's led the championship from the start of the season, still does and is usually every bit as quick as his teammate, what are you 'embarrassed' about?


zebra

4,555 posts

216 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Gary C said:
But the last one was not nr's fault and a bit pathetic.

A championship decided on penalties outside of the drivers control is not racing to me ( and I mean penalties, rather than a failure during a race, which has always been part of racing)
It's a team sport - they stand or fall together.

NJK44

1,364 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cheddar said:
jm doc said:
cheddar said:
Great race
Well done Lewis
Unlucky Nico, he drove well, penalty seems fair, he loses valuable points, still leads overall, just........
Big thumbs up to Max, epic drive and as entertaining as ever thumbup

Thanks DrZ for more quality F1 input
"Unlucky Nico, he drove well", you're kidding aren't you, what was it, four seconds behind his teammate after the first lap!! And never even got close throughout the whole race whilst desperately fighting off a Red Bull most of the way round the track, even getting overtaken at one point. It's getting embarassing at times to watch him eg Monaco

Which race were you watching?
I was watching the same race as you, albeit with an open mind

Nico was never going to match Lewis's pace on that particular Sunday but, in initially atrocious conditions, he re-caught and overtook Max, drove a solid race without an off track incident whilst everyone else was spearing off left right and centre and secured a pre-penalty 2nd place. Like I said, he drove well.
The 'unlucky' part was his gearbox issue and subsequent relegation to 3rd, neither of which were his fault

He's led the championship from the start of the season, still does and is usually every bit as quick as his teammate, what are you 'embarrassed' about?
The fact he got overtaken by a red bull, as good as Max is, is slightly embarrassing. That Mercedes is miles ahead of the Red Bull, Nico should be fighting Lewis, not max!

And don't start with the 'Nico has lead the championship so he must be good' crap.

He had the first 4 races handed to him on a plate, and a 43 point lead was obliterated by Lewis in as little races as he spent building it up.

Nico is cracking, and Lewis is laughing!

hairyben

8,516 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cheddar said:
Nico was never going to match Lewis's pace on that particular Sunday but, in initially atrocious conditions, he re-caught and overtook Max, drove a solid race without an off track incident whilst everyone else was spearing off left right and centre and
Atrocious conditions? You are charlie whiting and ICMFP.

Max was the one making the ballsy passing in the opportune poor conditions; nico only came good once the track had dried enough the inherent superiority of the merc was undeniable- even then it took him about 6 goes (was great fun watching him try for lap after lap at stowe)

tight fart

2,948 posts

275 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Not seen this mentioned, a plus note for LH needing 2? New engines to finish the season, will he not get the latest upgraded power units?

housen

2,366 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
cheddar said:
jm doc said:
cheddar said:
Great race
Well done Lewis
Unlucky Nico, he drove well, penalty seems fair, he loses valuable points, still leads overall, just........
Big thumbs up to Max, epic drive and as entertaining as ever thumbup

Thanks DrZ for more quality F1 input
"Unlucky Nico, he drove well", you're kidding aren't you, what was it, four seconds behind his teammate after the first lap!! And never even got close throughout the whole race whilst desperately fighting off a Red Bull most of the way round the track, even getting overtaken at one point. It's getting embarassing at times to watch him eg Monaco

Which race were you watching?
I was watching the same race as you, albeit with an open mind

Nico was never going to match Lewis's pace on that particular Sunday but, in initially atrocious conditions, he re-caught and overtook Max, drove a solid race without an off track incident whilst everyone else was spearing off left right and centre and secured a pre-penalty 2nd place. Like I said, he drove well.
The 'unlucky' part was his gearbox issue and subsequent relegation to 3rd, neither of which were his fault

He's led the championship from the start of the season, still does and is usually every bit as quick as his teammate, what are you 'embarrassed' about?
The fact he got overtaken by a red bull, as good as Max is, is slightly embarrassing. That Mercedes is miles ahead of the Red Bull, Nico should be fighting Lewis, not max!

And don't start with the 'Nico has lead the championship so he must be good' crap.

He had the first 4 races handed to him on a plate, and a 43 point lead was obliterated by Lewis in as little races as he spent building it up.

Nico is cracking, and Lewis is laughing!
yeah for sure it was impossible for sure maybe and lets see what happens next race for sure im looking forward to the next battle with lewis


I fking hate nico ....but at the same time I do feel for him ...if he doesn't win this championship he will forever be even more bitter and twisted ...although he doesn't deserve it one bit

lewis destroys him on and off the track in every way




HustleRussell

24,802 posts

162 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cheddar said:
I was watching the same race as you, albeit with an open mind

Nico was never going to match Lewis's pace on that particular Sunday but, in initially atrocious conditions, he re-caught and overtook Max, drove a solid race without an off track incident whilst everyone else was spearing off left right and centre and secured a pre-penalty 2nd place. Like I said, he drove well.
The 'unlucky' part was his gearbox issue and subsequent relegation to 3rd, neither of which were his fault

He's led the championship from the start of the season, still does and is usually every bit as quick as his teammate, what are you 'embarrassed' about?
I have to say, if you asked me who my best drivers of the day were on Sunday I could probably mention half the grid without Rosberg featuring. Speaking as a person who wanted Rosberg to beat Hamilton in 2013/14, I will be pretty disappointed if Rosberg wins this year due to reliability etc.

monamimate

838 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Blimey, the amount of hate being shown in these threads is mind-boggling.

Can't we just enjoy two top drivers doing their best to win a championship, without all the deep character "analysis" (= assassination)?

Sure, Hamilton has proven clearly that he is the better racer.

So spare a little thought for how Rosberg must feel: he probably knows this too deep down. His life has been dedicated to winning the world championship, yet almost every weekend, he is reminded that it is (probably) just beyond his reach. Must be pretty damn testing, but apparently he should shrug it off with a big smile and slap Hamilton on the back each time? Wouldn't we get a little tetchy if we had poured our all into a single endeavour, just to see it drift away week in, week out?

Rosberg is a great driver (he has enough pole positions etc to show that), and yes Hamilton does seem to have the edge on him. I respect both.

That's enough for me; I don't feel any need to get all judgmental about every sideways glance or stony silence...

NJK44

1,364 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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monamimate said:
Blimey, the amount of hate being shown in these threads is mind-boggling.

Can't we just enjoy two top drivers doing their best to win a championship, without all the deep character "analysis" (= assassination)?

Sure, Hamilton has proven clearly that he is the better racer.

So spare a little thought for how Rosberg must feel: he probably knows this too deep down. His life has been dedicated to winning the world championship, yet almost every weekend, he is reminded that it is (probably) just beyond his reach. Must be pretty damn testing, but apparently he should shrug it off with a big smile and slap Hamilton on the back each time? Wouldn't we get a little tetchy if we had poured our all into a single endeavour, just to see it drift away week in, week out?

Rosberg is a great driver (he has enough pole positions etc to show that), and yes Hamilton does seem to have the edge on him. I respect both.

That's enough for me; I don't feel any need to get all judgmental about every sideways glance or stony silence...
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.

swisstoni

17,295 posts

281 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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monamimate said:
Blimey, the amount of hate being shown in these threads is mind-boggling.

Can't we just enjoy two top drivers doing their best to win a championship, without all the deep character "analysis" (= assassination)?

Sure, Hamilton has proven clearly that he is the better racer.

So spare a little thought for how Rosberg must feel: he probably knows this too deep down. His life has been dedicated to winning the world championship, yet almost every weekend, he is reminded that it is (probably) just beyond his reach. Must be pretty damn testing, but apparently he should shrug it off with a big smile and slap Hamilton on the back each time? Wouldn't we get a little tetchy if we had poured our all into a single endeavour, just to see it drift away week in, week out?

Rosberg is a great driver (he has enough pole positions etc to show that), and yes Hamilton does seem to have the edge on him. I respect both.

That's enough for me; I don't feel any need to get all judgmental about every sideways glance or stony silence...
I like Hamilton, but I also respect Rosberg. He might not be a flashy driver but he continually turns out results. He pushes Hamilton hard all the time and has often plain beaten him fair and square.
This reflects well on both of them.

ZX10R NIN

27,800 posts

127 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.
Unfortunately so is Lewis when he's losing but I guess that's what comes from being competitive Fogarty was the same if not worse.

NJK44

1,364 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
Unfortunately so is Lewis when he's losing but I guess that's what comes from being competitive Fogarty was the same if not worse.
That's what happens when you lose to someone you know isn't at your level laugh

cgt2

7,113 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.
He is a good driver. I feel he is definitely flattered by his machinery and his lack of racecraft and wet weather ability shows that he is not top tier.

There are many such drivers on the grid, but what makes Nico hard to like IMO is his complete lack of sincerity when he is being interviewed. His manner is quite superior and entitled, typical of many rich kids and I think if he had held up his hands and said ''I'm sorry'' after Austria (and other such occasions) he would be respected far more than the belligerent arrogance he displayed. Anyone who works in a job where they interact with a lot of people can see the differences immediately.
Monaco 2014 was so blatant and his attitude after that quali session makes it extremely easy to dislike Nico and take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Yesterday's comments about being booed by only 15 people are patronising and insult the audience's intelligence. I don't think he should have been booed but why lie about it and lie so obviously, you are taking the F1 audience as mugs. If it could be heard on TV then it was at least a couple of hundred people if not more out of such a large crowd.

Several journos up and down the pitlane have commented on these characteristics of Nico's in the past too. If he becomes champion this season as a result of Hamilton's misfortune it will be a very unfair result as he is plainly not as good as several others unless he has everything his way. Could he fight back hard to a win or 2nd from the back of the grid? Don't think so.

Max is 18 FFS and has already given Nico a masterclass in racecraft on at least two occasions and come out on top.

housen

2,366 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
NJK44 said:
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.
He is a good driver. I feel he is definitely flattered by his machinery and his lack of racecraft and wet weather ability shows that he is not top tier.

There are many such drivers on the grid, but what makes Nico hard to like IMO is his complete lack of sincerity when he is being interviewed. His manner is quite superior and entitled, typical of many rich kids and I think if he had held up his hands and said ''I'm sorry'' after Austria (and other such occasions) he would be respected far more than the belligerent arrogance he displayed. Anyone who works in a job where they interact with a lot of people can see the differences immediately.
Monaco 2014 was so blatant and his attitude after that quali session makes it extremely easy to dislike Nico and take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Yesterday's comments about being booed by only 15 people are patronising and insult the audience's intelligence. I don't think he should have been booed but why lie about it and lie so obviously, you are taking the F1 audience as mugs. If it could be heard on TV then it was at least a couple of hundred people if not more out of such a large crowd.

Several journos up and down the pitlane have commented on these characteristics of Nico's in the past too. If he becomes champion this season as a result of Hamilton's misfortune it will be a very unfair result as he is plainly not as good as several others unless he has everything his way. Could he fight back hard to a win or 2nd from the back of the grid? Don't think so.

Max is 18 FFS and has already given Nico a masterclass in racecraft on at least two occasions and come out on top.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125257


who is he kidding


I also read a article in a easy jet magazine

nico was asked if lewis had changed much over the years

nico said no only that he has more money now

wtf why would u say that

nico is a douche end of

NJK44

1,364 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
He is a good driver. I feel he is definitely flattered by his machinery and his lack of racecraft and wet weather ability shows that he is not top tier.

There are many such drivers on the grid, but what makes Nico hard to like IMO is his complete lack of sincerity when he is being interviewed. His manner is quite superior and entitled, typical of many rich kids and I think if he had held up his hands and said ''I'm sorry'' after Austria (and other such occasions) he would be respected far more than the belligerent arrogance he displayed. Anyone who works in a job where they interact with a lot of people can see the differences immediately.
Monaco 2014 was so blatant and his attitude after that quali session makes it extremely easy to dislike Nico and take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Yesterday's comments about being booed by only 15 people are patronising and insult the audience's intelligence. I don't think he should have been booed but why lie about it and lie so obviously, you are taking the F1 audience as mugs. If it could be heard on TV then it was at least a couple of hundred people if not more out of such a large crowd.

Several journos up and down the pitlane have commented on these characteristics of Nico's in the past too. If he becomes champion this season as a result of Hamilton's misfortune it will be a very unfair result as he is plainly not as good as several others unless he has everything his way. Could he fight back hard to a win or 2nd from the back of the grid? Don't think so.

Max is 18 FFS and has already given Nico a masterclass in racecraft on at least two occasions and come out on top.
I agree wholeheartedly on everything you just said.

monamimate

838 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Glad to see I had a huge impact on the mood of this thread...

ZX10R NIN

27,800 posts

127 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Unfortunately so is Lewis when he's losing but I guess that's what comes from being competitive Fogarty was the same if not worse.
That's what happens when you lose to someone you know isn't at your level laugh
laugh He was the same when he lost to Vettel last season who I'd suggest is more than his equal, he doesn't like losing full stop it just grates him more when it's Nico lol

monamimate

838 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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housen said:
cgt2 said:
NJK44 said:
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.
He is a good driver. I feel he is definitely flattered by his machinery and his lack of racecraft and wet weather ability shows that he is not top tier.

There are many such drivers on the grid, but what makes Nico hard to like IMO is his complete lack of sincerity when he is being interviewed. His manner is quite superior and entitled, typical of many rich kids and I think if he had held up his hands and said ''I'm sorry'' after Austria (and other such occasions) he would be respected far more than the belligerent arrogance he displayed. Anyone who works in a job where they interact with a lot of people can see the differences immediately.
Monaco 2014 was so blatant and his attitude after that quali session makes it extremely easy to dislike Nico and take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Yesterday's comments about being booed by only 15 people are patronising and insult the audience's intelligence. I don't think he should have been booed but why lie about it and lie so obviously, you are taking the F1 audience as mugs. If it could be heard on TV then it was at least a couple of hundred people if not more out of such a large crowd.

Several journos up and down the pitlane have commented on these characteristics of Nico's in the past too. If he becomes champion this season as a result of Hamilton's misfortune it will be a very unfair result as he is plainly not as good as several others unless he has everything his way. Could he fight back hard to a win or 2nd from the back of the grid? Don't think so.

Max is 18 FFS and has already given Nico a masterclass in racecraft on at least two occasions and come out on top.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125257


who is he kidding


I also read a article in a easy jet magazine

nico was asked if lewis had changed much over the years

nico said no only that he has more money now

wtf why would u say that

nico is a douche end of
Oh FFS! He can't win, can he? He tries to be diplomatic by downplaying the issue and then complimenting British fans, and it's still not good enough for you?

And what would you expect him to say to that question about Lewis? He basically again took the diplomatic way by saying "hey, he's the same guy".

Haters will etc etc...



housen

2,366 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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monamimate said:
housen said:
cgt2 said:
NJK44 said:
Rosberg is very easy to dislike.
He is a good driver. I feel he is definitely flattered by his machinery and his lack of racecraft and wet weather ability shows that he is not top tier.

There are many such drivers on the grid, but what makes Nico hard to like IMO is his complete lack of sincerity when he is being interviewed. His manner is quite superior and entitled, typical of many rich kids and I think if he had held up his hands and said ''I'm sorry'' after Austria (and other such occasions) he would be respected far more than the belligerent arrogance he displayed. Anyone who works in a job where they interact with a lot of people can see the differences immediately.
Monaco 2014 was so blatant and his attitude after that quali session makes it extremely easy to dislike Nico and take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Yesterday's comments about being booed by only 15 people are patronising and insult the audience's intelligence. I don't think he should have been booed but why lie about it and lie so obviously, you are taking the F1 audience as mugs. If it could be heard on TV then it was at least a couple of hundred people if not more out of such a large crowd.

Several journos up and down the pitlane have commented on these characteristics of Nico's in the past too. If he becomes champion this season as a result of Hamilton's misfortune it will be a very unfair result as he is plainly not as good as several others unless he has everything his way. Could he fight back hard to a win or 2nd from the back of the grid? Don't think so.

Max is 18 FFS and has already given Nico a masterclass in racecraft on at least two occasions and come out on top.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125257


who is he kidding


I also read a article in a easy jet magazine

nico was asked if lewis had changed much over the years

nico said no only that he has more money now

wtf why would u say that

nico is a douche end of
Oh FFS! He can't win, can he? He tries to be diplomatic by downplaying the issue and then complimenting British fans, and it's still not good enough for you?

And what would you expect him to say to that question about Lewis? He basically again took the diplomatic way by saying "hey, he's the same guy".

Haters will etc etc...

calm down Nico ;-)

he could have also said no lewis still the same guy I grew up with ....the end