The Official 2014 Belgian Grand Prix Tread ***Spoilers***
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fatboy69 said:
A word in your shell like.... Jeez. You really are an arse.
You've punctured my n/s/r with that !!. ..
Wow ... terminal DNF wounded by your best shot there fatboy.
I'm good at calling names too. You are an anus surround fatboy. That's poshspeak for r-sole...
Lighten up you misery.
M4CK 1 said:
MGJohn said:
Yes, possibly just as Hamilton waved his hand when making the second attempt at a clean pass.
He who doesn't go for a closing gap is not a racer ... apparently.
Tis writ in the yellow helmet book of racing excellence.,
Can you forward that book to Nico I'm sure he could pick some tips upHe who doesn't go for a closing gap is not a racer ... apparently.
Tis writ in the yellow helmet book of racing excellence.,
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MGJohn said:
With Ricciardo securing a "surprise" win and Vettel being best of the rest in Q3 at Spa, can we deduce the Renault power units are closing the disadvantage gap towards the outputs of the Mercedes-Benz powered cars?
The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
The power unit is obviously getting much better, they seem to have sorted both some of the power and reliability problems out. What was also interesting was the change to a low downforce way of thinking in Spa. This will obviously be worse for Vettel, since that's where he is amazing. So I wonder if they've "given up" the main focus being on sorting it for Vettel's style this season with the results Ricciardo has got now?The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
I have to say despite all the flak Vettel has got this season I have been impressed with him. He has been shown to be what a lot of people thought - exceptional with a high downforce car, good without. However it's been much easier to see his overtaking/ awareness skills. He's much nearer Hamilton/ Alonso quality overtaking than I thought he would be - there have been some great duals between them. It's also been interesting to see his awareness, avoiding a few accidents (like Massa/ Perez). It looked like luck that he wasn't hit, and yet when you looked closely he adjusted the car to avoid them if possible, despite it happening behind him.
MGJohn said:
Zoobeef said:
Didn't button apologise for that?
Yes, possibly just as Hamilton waved his hand when making the second attempt at a clean pass.He who doesn't go for a closing gap is not a racer ... apparently.
Tis writ in the yellow helmet book of racing excellence.,
I am wondering if the Mercedes was a bit less dominant that Hamilton would be further in the lead baring reliability problems this season. He is generally able to pass people, whereas Rosberg struggles a lot more. So if they were further back I suspect it would suit Hamilton as Rosberg's (relative) weakness would play a larger part. You see Rosberg generally losing first position at the end of the race if anything causes him to be further back in the traffic as he takes longer to pass than those who are better at it (but lowers the risk of a DNF generally). That said, if it wasn't for reliability then Hamilton would still be ahead so it doesn't always pay off MGJohn.MGJohn said:
With Ricciardo securing a "surprise" win and Vettel being best of the rest in Q3 at Spa, can we deduce the Renault power units are closing the disadvantage gap towards the outputs of the Mercedes-Benz powered cars?
The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
Rosberg had no reason to hunt Ricciardo down for first, Hamilton was on pace with the Marussias because of his damaged car, he was already 11 points ahead of him and heading for second to extend his lead to over 25 points, why risk parts wearing or failing by pushing too hard and risking losing everything by overtaking the Red Bull?The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA
NRS said:
MGJohn said:
With Ricciardo securing a "surprise" win and Vettel being best of the rest in Q3 at Spa, can we deduce the Renault power units are closing the disadvantage gap towards the outputs of the Mercedes-Benz powered cars?
The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
The power unit is obviously getting much better, they seem to have sorted both some of the power and reliability problems out. What was also interesting was the change to a low downforce way of thinking in Spa. This will obviously be worse for Vettel, since that's where he is amazing. So I wonder if they've "given up" the main focus being on sorting it for Vettel's style this season with the results Ricciardo has got now?The ease with which Ricciardo passed more experienced drivers and contained the Mercedes of Rosberg effectively towards the end, surely it is not solely down to luck but, also improvement of the cars and engines.
In any event, it's making for a more interesting contest if the RBs are closing that power and reliability gap. Vettel hasn't had a reliability DNF for a race or two lately either.
I will not be too surprised to see them mixing it with the Mercedes-Benz powered cars in Italy Sunday week. Bring it on.
I have to say despite all the flak Vettel has got this season I have been impressed with him. He has been shown to be what a lot of people thought - exceptional with a high downforce car, good without. However it's been much easier to see his overtaking/ awareness skills. He's much nearer Hamilton/ Alonso quality overtaking than I thought he would be - there have been some great duals between them. It's also been interesting to see his awareness, avoiding a few accidents (like Massa/ Perez). It looked like luck that he wasn't hit, and yet when you looked closely he adjusted the car to avoid them if possible, despite it happening behind him.
MGJohn said:
Zoobeef said:
Didn't button apologise for that?
Yes, possibly just as Hamilton waved his hand when making the second attempt at a clean pass.He who doesn't go for a closing gap is not a racer ... apparently.
Tis writ in the yellow helmet book of racing excellence.,
I am wondering if the Mercedes was a bit less dominant that Hamilton would be further in the lead baring reliability problems this season. He is generally able to pass people, whereas Rosberg struggles a lot more. So if they were further back I suspect it would suit Hamilton as Rosberg's (relative) weakness would play a larger part. You see Rosberg generally losing first position at the end of the race if anything causes him to be further back in the traffic as he takes longer to pass than those who are better at it (but lowers the risk of a DNF generally). That said, if it wasn't for reliability then Hamilton would still be ahead so it doesn't always pay off MGJohn.DManning123 said:
Rosberg had no reason to hunt Ricciardo down for first, Hamilton was on pace with the Marussias because of his damaged car, he was already 11 points ahead of him and heading for second to extend his lead to over 25 points, why risk parts wearing or failing by pushing too hard and risking losing everything by overtaking the Red Bull?
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA
Even after the crash Rosberg still had the pace to win, he didn't because he made more mistakes.As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA
DManning123 said:
Rosberg had no reason to hunt Ricciardo down for first, Hamilton was on pace with the Marussias because of his damaged car, he was already 11 points ahead of him and heading for second to extend his lead to over 25 points, why risk parts wearing or failing by pushing too hard and risking losing everything by overtaking the Red Bull?
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA
Yes. Quite.As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko94oniszuA
rubystone said:
Very good read - all bang on.El Guapo said:
M4CK 1 said:
Or how about Bangor race face off. Viewing figures would go through the roof.
I don't think either of them could spare the time to travel to Wales just now.Sorry for misunderstanding Bangor racing I was talking about is where old nearly scrap cars take part in a race where they crash into each other and the car which is still running at the end of is the winner. :smile: and ndoesnt necessarily take place in Wales. My bad meant wrong spelling Banger not Bangor
Scuffers said:
DManning123 said:
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
Total horlicks.Either your blind or have no concept of how racing is done.
Incomplete horlicks at best, not total. There was a brief gap. The sort Hamilton has tried to fill many times.... er, on the tracks of course ...
MGJohn said:
Scuffers said:
DManning123 said:
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
Total horlicks.Either your blind or have no concept of how racing is done.
Incomplete horlicks at best, not total. There was a brief gap. The sort Hamilton has tried to fill many times.... er, on the tracks of course ...
There was no gap, the only way round that way would require you to be far enough alongside such at mid-point between apexes you were still 100% alongside and thusnbe able to claim the apex.
Rosberg was only alongside at the point they hit the brakes, by the time they got past the first apex, the overlap was only the front wing and reducing (Lewis brakes later into the apex).
To then attend to clame the second apex was just stupid and never going to work, contact was inevitable.
MGJohn said:
Scuffers said:
DManning123 said:
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
Total horlicks.Either your blind or have no concept of how racing is done.
Incomplete horlicks at best, not total. There was a brief gap. The sort Hamilton has tried to fill many times.... er, on the tracks of course ...
Its got to the point where I can smell this thread when I turn my PC on.
longshot said:
MGJohn said:
Scuffers said:
DManning123 said:
As for the crash, Hamilton left the door open and then closed it when Rosberg took advantage, in the words of his hero and the driver he tries to model himself after:
Total horlicks.Either your blind or have no concept of how racing is done.
Incomplete horlicks at best, not total. There was a brief gap. The sort Hamilton has tried to fill many times.... er, on the tracks of course ...
Its got to the point where I can smell this thread when I turn my PC on.
andy_s said:
rubystone said:
Very good read - all bang on.MGJohn said:
fatboy69 said:
A word in your shell like.... Jeez. You really are an arse.
You've punctured my n/s/r with that !!. ..Wow ... terminal DNF wounded by your best shot there fatboy.
I'm good at calling names too. You are an anus surround fatboy. That's poshspeak for r-sole...
Lighten up you misery.
M4CK 1 said:
MGJohn me thinks your a wind up merchant
Woe is me ... etc ... By the way it's not "your" but; you're. Sorry and all that.. I can be a pedant with a big key on occasion...Right, that does it. I'm orf to get that big key right now.
.... and I mean that most sincerely folks.
... and fatboy's not bovvered. I bet he's not even fat either neither.
andy_s said:
rubystone said:
Very good read - all bang on.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff