The Official 2016 British Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[NJK44]

Dr Z said:

A question to those trackside...how are the cars sounding in comparison to 2014/2015? Louder?

Bloody brilliant! Much louder, much better!

[BlimeyCharlie]

Norfolkit said:

super7 said:

Silverstone will be packed again this year..... like it is every year. There will probably be more people attending tomorrow than for Race Day in Austria! The British Grand Prix is a real highlight of the year!!!!

It is expensive, £195 to stand/sit on the grass, but, you get three days admission and 6 1/2 hrs of F1. You get 2 GP2 races, one long one not so long, 2hrs. You get 2 GP3 races 1hr. You get Porsche Cup races 1hr. You get 4 concerts with Fridays being a full set from Texas for the middle aged..... one from Mike and Mechanics (apt), Scouting for girls for the kids and a.n.other nobody... Air displays on 2 days.

Compare all that to a premier league match £60 odd quid or more for 90mins of action. £100+ pounds for Boxing which more than likely finishes in less 3minutes, it doesn't look so bad

And you get all that for £85 in Hungary and that's for a grandstand ticket (that's what I paid last year). Not knocking the British Grand Prix, I absolutely love it but the prices are getting crazy

Texas?
Scouting For Girls?

Music for people who don't like music.
Who chooses the bands at Silverstone? Somebody's Nan who only has one cd, which is Tesco's BBQ Anthems 2002?

Who is playing next year? Matt Cardle? Will Young?

[hilly10]

Rosburg has not got out the garage for this aft practice, that's gonna hurt his set up, mind you with the rain that's forecast it won't matter

[FourWheelDrift]

Munter said:

Crafty_ said:

hairyben said:

Munter said:

When did we go to black and white kerbs? Not a problem but I'm sure they used to be blue and white.

They couldnt afford a colour licence off bernie

Brundle suggested its due to a track sponsor..

I just saw the bridge all black and with Johnie Walker on it and thought it might be that.
(Nipping in and out of C4 online coverage between meetings)

They were black & white pre-sponsorship red & white and I guess they've gone back to the original non-sponsorship colours.

Examples.
1977 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t9zbY88dcs
1987 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ_jckX8O7w

thay have been red/white in other years probably Marlboro or Santander sponsorship.

[Europa1]

BlimeyCharlie said:

Norfolkit said:

super7 said:

Silverstone will be packed again this year..... like it is every year. There will probably be more people attending tomorrow than for Race Day in Austria! The British Grand Prix is a real highlight of the year!!!!

It is expensive, £195 to stand/sit on the grass, but, you get three days admission and 6 1/2 hrs of F1. You get 2 GP2 races, one long one not so long, 2hrs. You get 2 GP3 races 1hr. You get Porsche Cup races 1hr. You get 4 concerts with Fridays being a full set from Texas for the middle aged..... one from Mike and Mechanics (apt), Scouting for girls for the kids and a.n.other nobody... Air displays on 2 days.

Compare all that to a premier league match £60 odd quid or more for 90mins of action. £100+ pounds for Boxing which more than likely finishes in less 3minutes, it doesn't look so bad

And you get all that for £85 in Hungary and that's for a grandstand ticket (that's what I paid last year). Not knocking the British Grand Prix, I absolutely love it but the prices are getting crazy

Texas?
Scouting For Girls?

Music for people who don't like music.
Who chooses the bands at Silverstone? Somebody's Nan who only has one cd, which is Tesco's BBQ Anthems 2002?

Who is playing next year? Matt Cardle? Will Young?

Or maybe getting bigger name bands would mean pushing the ticket price beyond a point that paying punters will accept?

[deadslow]

hilly10 said:

Rosburg has not got out the garage for this aft practice, that's gonna hurt his set up, mind you with the rain that's forecast it won't matter

going on recent form, Rosberg would be as well staying in bed if it rains

[hairyben]

Dr Z said:

Skodasupercar said:

Just watching the end of FP2, anyone know what has happened to Rosberg? Doesn't appear to have taken part in FP2.

Punishment for running the No. 1 off track/crashing last race.

Thats what you're supposed to think.

Actually, rosberg relies on hamiltons setup anyway so he gets to chillax while lewis puts the work in, this way he'll carry a couple of sets of optinum compound stickers into the race while lewis will have one new set at best and a load of used tyres

Why do you think rosberg looked so chilled out about the whole thing?

[Crafty_]

I think even Rosberg has said using Lewis's data has helped him, so thats actually kinda true.

If it rains the lack of running won't hurt him anyway.

[Dr Z]

hairyben said:

Actually, rosberg relies on hamiltons setup anyway so he gets to chillax while lewis puts the work in, this way he'll carry a couple of sets of optinum compound stickers into the race while lewis will have one new set at best and a load of used tyres

Why do you think rosberg looked so chilled out about the whole thing?

Whilst I think Rosberg is the world's greatest copy ninja, it goes both ways. Isn't it standard practice for one side of the garage to copy setup from another if there are problems? Especially if both drivers prefer similar car setups, which Hamilton and Rosberg have indicated they do. What do you think happened in Barcelona this year when Hamilton was struggling on Friday? Copied Rosberg's setup and got pole.

[suffolk009]

Europa1 said:

BlimeyCharlie said:

Norfolkit said:

super7 said:

Silverstone will be packed again this year..... like it is every year. There will probably be more people attending tomorrow than for Race Day in Austria! The British Grand Prix is a real highlight of the year!!!!

It is expensive, £195 to stand/sit on the grass, but, you get three days admission and 6 1/2 hrs of F1. You get 2 GP2 races, one long one not so long, 2hrs. You get 2 GP3 races 1hr. You get Porsche Cup races 1hr. You get 4 concerts with Fridays being a full set from Texas for the middle aged..... one from Mike and Mechanics (apt), Scouting for girls for the kids and a.n.other nobody... Air displays on 2 days.

Compare all that to a premier league match £60 odd quid or more for 90mins of action. £100+ pounds for Boxing which more than likely finishes in less 3minutes, it doesn't look so bad

And you get all that for £85 in Hungary and that's for a grandstand ticket (that's what I paid last year). Not knocking the British Grand Prix, I absolutely love it but the prices are getting crazy

Texas?
Scouting For Girls?

Music for people who don't like music.
Who chooses the bands at Silverstone? Somebody's Nan who only has one cd, which is Tesco's BBQ Anthems 2002?

Who is playing next year? Matt Cardle? Will Young?

Or maybe getting bigger name bands would mean pushing the ticket price beyond a point that paying punters will accept?

A few years ago at LeMans there were signs up all over the place for "Les Strangleurs". We went along expecting a dodgy French tribute band. But no it was them, the real Stranglers. They were brilliant. Following year UB40, not so great.

Haven't they got some big performer on at the USA gp this year?

[Flooble]

I realise it's touchy at the moment but I think the original post about Rosberg copying was a bit tongue in cheek - the limits of the text medium. Let's not get heated about what was probably a joke!

[deadslow]

Flooble said:

I realise it's touchy at the moment but I think the original post about Rosberg copying was a bit tongue in cheek - the limits of the text medium. Let's not get heated about what was probably a joke!

I'll take a wild guess that every driver with a clue studies his teammates data scrupulously

[Bristol spark]

I see Vijay has resurfaced.

[Dr Z]

NJK44 said:

Dr Z said:

A question to those trackside...how are the cars sounding in comparison to 2014/2015? Louder?

Bloody brilliant! Much louder, much better!

Thanks, good to know.

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OK, here are some averaged lap times from the FP2 long runs:

Driver	Medium	Driver	Soft	Driver	Hard
HAM	36.232	VET	36.514	RAI	38.536
RIC	36.629	RIC	37.402	HUL	38.689
VES	36.997	VES	37.498	GRO	38.738
ALO	37.945	HAM	37.539	PER	38.92
MAS	38.302	RAI	37.542	-	-
VET	38.366	SAI	38.185	-	-
KVY	38.628	MAS	38.974	-	-
HUL	38.691	BOT	39.012	-	-
BOT	38.736	NAS	39.129	-	-
PER	38.826	ALO	39.203	-	-
MAG	39.741	GRO	40.112	-	-
GUT	39.837	HAR	40.855	-	-
HAR	40.091	MAG	40.957	-	-
ERI	40.199	-	-	-	-
PAL	40.274	-	-	-	-

Please refer to the FP2 tyre usage pic I posted earlier to make sense of this as a few drivers completed shorter runs than others (Vettel on the Softs for example), so keep that in mind. The Hard tyre is working pretty well if the lap times vs Medium is to be believed. Only Force India and Ferrari seriously evaluated it, and the performance trade-off vs longevity seems good compared to Medium. For Ferrari, it could serve as a good tyre for a long middle stint, with a final sprint on the Softs/Medium.

Rosberg and Hamilton completed some runs on the Medium tyre in FP1 and Hamilton was around 0.3s/lap faster than Rosberg. Advantage Hamilton for now.

Edited by Dr Z on Friday 8th July 18:04

[BlimeyCharlie]

Europa1 said:

BlimeyCharlie said:

Norfolkit said:

super7 said:

Silverstone will be packed again this year..... like it is every year. There will probably be more people attending tomorrow than for Race Day in Austria! The British Grand Prix is a real highlight of the year!!!!

It is expensive, £195 to stand/sit on the grass, but, you get three days admission and 6 1/2 hrs of F1. You get 2 GP2 races, one long one not so long, 2hrs. You get 2 GP3 races 1hr. You get Porsche Cup races 1hr. You get 4 concerts with Fridays being a full set from Texas for the middle aged..... one from Mike and Mechanics (apt), Scouting for girls for the kids and a.n.other nobody... Air displays on 2 days.

Compare all that to a premier league match £60 odd quid or more for 90mins of action. £100+ pounds for Boxing which more than likely finishes in less 3minutes, it doesn't look so bad

And you get all that for £85 in Hungary and that's for a grandstand ticket (that's what I paid last year). Not knocking the British Grand Prix, I absolutely love it but the prices are getting crazy

Texas?
Scouting For Girls?

Music for people who don't like music.
Who chooses the bands at Silverstone? Somebody's Nan who only has one cd, which is Tesco's BBQ Anthems 2002?

Who is playing next year? Matt Cardle? Will Young?

Or maybe getting bigger name bands would mean pushing the ticket price beyond a point that paying punters will accept?

Indeed, or ideally have no bands and drop the price of the tickets? I'd need paying to watch that 'entertainment'.

If people want to watch Texas and Scouting For Girls then there are plenty of opportunities to do that, such as MumRock 2016, Butlins etc etc.
This is Formula 1! The pinnacle! Not Woolworths.

Texas Homebase would be more Rock 'n'Roll. Not very James Hunt, is it?

[Crafty_]

Dr Z said:

Rosberg and Hamilton completed some runs on the Medium tyre in FP1 and Hamilton was around 0.3s/lap faster than Rosberg. Advantage Hamilton for now.

Edited by Dr Z on Friday 8th July 18:04

Sky were tracking the runs and reckoned that in FP2 Ricciardo's run on the Soft gave the same average lap time as Hamilton's with Vettel just a little slower. Interesting! however, I suspect that the Mercedes was turned down, they seem to dial them back a bit for practice and give it the full beans for qualifying/race so it could well be false.

I don't expect Rosberg's lack of running to diminish his pace, even if it stays dry.

[Flooble]

BlimeyCharlie said:

Indeed, or ideally have no bands and drop the price of the tickets? I'd need paying to watch that 'entertainment'.

If people want to watch Texas and Scouting For Girls then there are plenty of opportunities to do that, such as MumRock 2016, Butlins etc etc.
This is Formula 1! The pinnacle! Not Woolworths.

Texas Homebase would be more Rock 'n'Roll. Not very James Hunt, is it?

The concert is mostly to stop people all heading out the car park at the same time, straight after the end of the race. I am inclined to agree with you in that having more support races into the evening would bring a lot of fans to hang around. However, some dispensation is needed for the non-fans accompanying everyone else ...

[FourWheelDrift]

Bristol spark said:

I see Vijay has resurfaced.

I think he's been hiding out here for a while now - http://www.news18.com/news/india/vijay-mallya-stil...

Not wanting to travel in case his plane gets accidentally diverted to India. Or his boat boarded in international waters.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 8th July 18:57

[Impasse]

You may wish to avoid the after race show in Austin. They are having the effervescent Ms Taylor Swift perform a few songs once all the noisy car stuff has finished.

[NJK44]

Impasse said:

You may wish to avoid the after race show in Austin. They are having the effervescent Ms Taylor Swift perform a few songs once all the noisy car stuff has finished.

Personally, I love Taylor