Welcome back Jenson?
Discussion
Chris Type R said:
HTP99 said:
I'm pretty sure it was a completed Honda project; minus the Honda engine, however I seem to re-call reading that Honda also paid for the whole of the season too.
I don't think it covered everything as they reduced the head-count by 30% - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...TheRealFingers99 said:
For sure, but crumbling under pressure didn't come into it.
Rubens buckled alright. I can clearly recall him having a near foot stamping tantrum to camera in more than a few races where he was convinced the team were conspiring against him.My recollection of 2009 was that Ruben's did not handle the weight of expectation at all well and that he was lashing out to camera a lot during the first half of the season.
I got the impression Ross Brawn had to manage Ruben's quite a lot through 2009.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/jenso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
Agent Orange said:
Rubens buckled alright. I can clearly recall him having a near foot stamping tantrum to camera in more than a few races where he was convinced the team were conspiring against him.
My recollection of 2009 was that Ruben's did not handle the weight of expectation at all well and that he was lashing out to camera a lot during the first half of the season.
I got the impression Ross Brawn had to manage Ruben's quite a lot through 2009.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/jenso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
I remember all that as well. Proper 'toys out if the cot' moment. My recollection of 2009 was that Ruben's did not handle the weight of expectation at all well and that he was lashing out to camera a lot during the first half of the season.
I got the impression Ross Brawn had to manage Ruben's quite a lot through 2009.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/jenso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
Agent Orange said:
Rubens buckled alright. I can clearly recall him having a near foot stamping tantrum to camera in more than a few races where he was convinced the team were conspiring against him.
My recollection of 2009 was that Ruben's did not handle the weight of expectation at all well and that he was lashing out to camera a lot during the first half of the season.
I got the impression Ross Brawn had to manage Ruben's quite a lot through 2009.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/jenso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
Rubens has always had those little moments. Always, throughout his career. He's a pretty emotional "heart on sleeve" guy. But it never lasts more than an ice cream or a half hour. To see it as a meltdown is absurdly Anglo Saxon. I'd see him as about as emotional as Hamilton, less so than Senna.My recollection of 2009 was that Ruben's did not handle the weight of expectation at all well and that he was lashing out to camera a lot during the first half of the season.
I got the impression Ross Brawn had to manage Ruben's quite a lot through 2009.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/jenso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
As Brawn said somewhere "I'd much sooner work with someone who cares than someone who doesn't."
I hate golf, but it's very much a pressure game. Of F1 folk who play golf, Rubens was/is by far the best.
Seems he's lost weight and wants a Mercedes drive: http://www.f1today.net/en/news/barrichello-offered...
Edited by TheRealFingers99 on Tuesday 14th October 20:08
TuxMan said:
If Jenson leaves McLaren that will be the end of my support , after last weekends brilliant drive he deserves to stay !!! Sick of supporting a second rate team , cannot believe they are taking on Alonso after everything that went on !!
Plus I don't think a better engine (assuming the Honda turns out to be a better engine) is going to fix all that's wrong. 
TuxMan said:
If Jenson leaves McLaren that will be the end of my support , after last weekends brilliant drive he deserves to stay !!! Sick of supporting a second rate team , cannot believe they are taking on Alonso after everything that went on !!
That is how I feel too. What is holding this decision up? Alonso knows what he is doing by the sounds of it or he is he bluffing?Daz68 said:
That is how I feel too. What is holding this decision up? Alonso knows what he is doing by the sounds of it or he is he bluffing?
Sounds like they want a multi year deal, he wants the option of leaving after one (maybe going to Mercedes). The Mercedes situation won't be firmed up until Hamilton signs. TheRealFingers99 said:
Sounds like they want a multi year deal, he wants the option of leaving after one (maybe going to Mercedes). The Mercedes situation won't be firmed up until Hamilton signs.
Surely you'd not want a driver who is eying up a move to a different team after one year, if true? Utterly pointless exercise. I'm sure if JB was offered a multi year deal he would accept it.TheAngryDog said:
Surely you'd not want a driver who is eying up a move to a different team after one year, if true? Utterly pointless exercise. I'm sure if JB was offered a multi year deal he would accept it.
The idea (from the manufacturer's POV) would be to get him in a multi-year deal and have some mechanism in place to hold him to it. From the driver's POV, you'd want the opportunity to get out after a year if the car was a dog. Jenson would probably jump at a multi-year deal. But -- as said elsewhere -- drivers are like spanners -- loose one, buy another. I'd guess that the end of "I can't bring much/any sponsors with me" drives is only about 5 years away.
BBC said:
McLaren racing director Eric Boullier says Jenson Button is not racing for a place in the 2015 team despite uncertainly over next season's line-up.
"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29622051"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
thegreenhell said:
BBC said:
McLaren racing director Eric Boullier says Jenson Button is not racing for a place in the 2015 team despite uncertainly over next season's line-up.
"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
Looks like Alonso is playing hard to get in a long term contract then?"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
Daz68 said:
thegreenhell said:
BBC said:
McLaren racing director Eric Boullier says Jenson Button is not racing for a place in the 2015 team despite uncertainly over next season's line-up.
"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
Looks like Alonso is playing hard to get in a long term contract then?"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
I wonder how sure they are of getting Alonso, and how much would they risk being without Button or the devious Spaniard next year....??
aeropilot said:
Daz68 said:
thegreenhell said:
BBC said:
McLaren racing director Eric Boullier says Jenson Button is not racing for a place in the 2015 team despite uncertainly over next season's line-up.
"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
Looks like Alonso is playing hard to get in a long term contract then?"We don't need him to deliver an extra job on track to - let's say - save his job," Boullier said.
"We know the value of Jenson and we know he is a world champion-class driver and he has been a world champion already."
"I understand obviously that (Button) may not feel comfortable and obviously he's concerned about his future," Boullier added.
"I'm in charge of McLaren Racing and we have to build the best for the team. Drivers are obviously very important in the discussion and Jenson is more than considered to stay with us for the long term.
"But we are still investigating what we want to do with our driver line-up, once we have all the data in our hands."
I wonder how sure they are of getting Alonso, and how much would they risk being without Button or the devious Spaniard next year....??
London424 said:
I keep reading that JB is popular in japan...what is this based on?
How are people measuring this?
Please don't tell me it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.
I think it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.How are people measuring this?
Please don't tell me it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.
JoyJuice said:
London424 said:
I keep reading that JB is popular in japan...what is this based on?
How are people measuring this?
Please don't tell me it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.
I think it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.How are people measuring this?
Please don't tell me it's just cause he once drive a Honda and his missus is half Japanese.
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