F1 sounds crap
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I have seen v12s 'to v8 ... I will go to Canada in June and hope it sounds better in person !!!!!! I'm so disappointed with the sound on the tele ' it was crap! And it make me laugh they are always talking about keeping cost down ' but are always changing the rules .....the v8s where bullet proof. And some things shouldn't go green and F1 is one of them .....if you want to save fuel don't fly so bloody far! They will fly from Monaco to Canada then too England .......really .
Bob
Bob
Spot on Molly-- We can always change back to Matra and Ferrari V12s, I recall chatting to some Germans at Le Mans and one of them said the best sound he had ever heard was 2 v12 Ferraris in line astern at Spa through the woods as near to a V24 as makes no odds!! Much better than an old badger
stephen300o said:
This thread is a good list of folks who cannot cope with change.
I am afraid good people, that change is enevitable.
Change for the worst is always disappointing though, lets be honest. I am afraid good people, that change is enevitable.
The cars now sound truly woeful - as bad as any race car I've ever heard. Sadly now there's too little appeal for me so I doubt I'll be going out my way to watch this season.
Just shows how those in the know can get it so wrong!!!
Sad for Motorsport though.
McWigglebum4th said:
Fantastic bit of nostalgia.
Been a long time F1 , there was something special about loud bristling v8's and v12's in a times gone past. Today we have a grown up version of scalectrix (spelling) racing. These arethe times we live in pandering to electronics and keeping the greens onside. As Bernie says its all wrong.....they curb the emissions on these new hybrids, deaden the sound yet the convey of trucks brought to these events billowing out diesel emissions smacks of hypocrisy rotten to the core.
How many times have we all gone to a F1 GP and you've a bit to walk to get to your vantage point......the deafening noise of those v8s and v12s especially in hockenheim that sounded like the devil......they made my legs go weak. Today i tried hard to listen to the tv re engine noise......it was grimacing and sad for me to see where F1 has gone.......down the toilet.
Over to you the new generation of 1.6 v6 turbo lovers, you can keep em.
How many times have we all gone to a F1 GP and you've a bit to walk to get to your vantage point......the deafening noise of those v8s and v12s especially in hockenheim that sounded like the devil......they made my legs go weak. Today i tried hard to listen to the tv re engine noise......it was grimacing and sad for me to see where F1 has gone.......down the toilet.
Over to you the new generation of 1.6 v6 turbo lovers, you can keep em.
Edited by 930s forever on Sunday 16th March 18:30
Just watched a couple of YouTube clips of the old v10. Despite what anyone tries to tell you, F1 has lost a massive part of what made it special. Yes, there were turbos before v10's and v8's but for two decades the soundtrack to F1 was genuinely spine tingling. In my mind it was one of the compelling reasons to go and see the cars in the flesh. I'm just glad I got to experience them up close and personal.
Now, where can I go and see a 3.5l v10 in action in this country?
Now, where can I go and see a 3.5l v10 in action in this country?
This has been posted on the race thread but to repeat here: today F1 cars were a about 3 seconds per lap slower than 2013, a gap that will by the end of the season be won back.
They did this on 100kg of fuel, vs. 160kg last year.
This tells us the V8s were an anachronism, and not reflective of what the world's best engineers can achieve in 2014.
If you lament the sound of the V8s you might as well wish for the sound of a webber carb fed v12 - this is the sound of modern performance, it doesn't sound like the old ways because the old ways were slower.
(And i know not literally slower - they cannot and should not make the cars faster than 2004 because that's about the safe limit - but doing similar pace on half the energy? That's just much, much better technology )
They did this on 100kg of fuel, vs. 160kg last year.
This tells us the V8s were an anachronism, and not reflective of what the world's best engineers can achieve in 2014.
If you lament the sound of the V8s you might as well wish for the sound of a webber carb fed v12 - this is the sound of modern performance, it doesn't sound like the old ways because the old ways were slower.
(And i know not literally slower - they cannot and should not make the cars faster than 2004 because that's about the safe limit - but doing similar pace on half the energy? That's just much, much better technology )
cidered77 said:
This has been posted on the race thread but to repeat here: today F1 cars were a about 3 seconds per lap slower than 2013, a gap that will by the end of the season be won back.
They did this on 100kg of fuel, vs. 160kg last year.
This tells us the V8s were an anachronism, and not reflective of what the world's best engineers can achieve in 2014.
If you lament the sound of the V8s you might as well wish for the sound of a webber carb fed v12 - this is the sound of modern performance, it doesn't sound like the old ways because the old ways were slower.
(And i know not literally slower - they cannot and should not make the cars faster than 2004 because that's about the safe limit - but doing similar pace on half the energy? That's just much, much better technology )
Thats progress I suppose. It just sounds crap!! They did this on 100kg of fuel, vs. 160kg last year.
This tells us the V8s were an anachronism, and not reflective of what the world's best engineers can achieve in 2014.
If you lament the sound of the V8s you might as well wish for the sound of a webber carb fed v12 - this is the sound of modern performance, it doesn't sound like the old ways because the old ways were slower.
(And i know not literally slower - they cannot and should not make the cars faster than 2004 because that's about the safe limit - but doing similar pace on half the energy? That's just much, much better technology )
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