ways to make Formula 1 interesting again

ways to make Formula 1 interesting again

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Harry H

3,430 posts

158 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Bring back Murray Walker. It was boring in his day as well. We just didn't notice as he made it sound so fun.

FastRich

542 posts

202 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Make the current pilots be drivers.

De restrict engines. More power, more cylinders, more noise.

Throw away drs. I don't care if there have been more overtakes since drs. It's contrived overtaking. Out braking, out cornering, out accelerating - that's the fun of it, not drs rubbish.

Bring back fuel stops. Make the teams come up with their own strategy, not a follow the herd strategy.

Only have 2 tyres - wet and dry.

Use far less aero, it's boring.

Keep it simple. Let teams do what they want - the objective is to go fast and win the race. If there are worries about "only the rich teams winning" then cap the max spend.


Oh, who cares? F1 is crap anyway, BTCC & WEC is where the magic lies.

Adrian W

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14,015 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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FastRich said:
Make the current pilots be drivers.

De restrict engines. More power, more cylinders, more noise.

Throw away drs. I don't care if there have been more overtakes since drs. It's contrived overtaking. Out braking, out cornering, out accelerating - that's the fun of it, not drs rubbish.

Bring back fuel stops. Make the teams come up with their own strategy, not a follow the herd strategy.

Only have 2 tyres - wet and dry.

Use far less aero, it's boring.

Keep it simple. Let teams do what they want - the objective is to go fast and win the race. If there are worries about "only the rich teams winning" then cap the max spend.


Oh, who cares? F1 is crap anyway, BTCC & WEC is where the magic lies.
You were doing so well untill you said the taxi crashing championship was magic

lickatysplit

470 posts

132 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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all drivers to go into a hat to be pulled out by each team at the end of a season. there could be a chance of Rosberg in a Marussia :-)

or

one Seasoned driver and one rookie in each team per season, Rookies are considered at up to two seasons. after that they are considered Seasoned.

Harry H

3,430 posts

158 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Turn qualifying into a TT event with points attached towards the championship.

The grid on race day is a reverse of the result of the previous race ie last race winner starts at the back etc etc . Then we'd see some overtaking.

cookie1600

2,152 posts

163 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Make the drivers position on the gird in the next race dependant, on their finish in the race just gone - but in reverse

Hamilton, Rosberg et all will all have to start from near the back and race their way to the front. No grid penalties for changing engines or gearboxes etc, just a 10 second stop/go pit penalty in the middle of the race.

Oh and make them use the smallest possible fuel tank and bring back fuel stops.

molecular bob

2 posts

175 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I would like to have rule stability and force the constructors to produce customer cars, with the only restriction being that customer teams could only run 1 car, would allow manufacturers to compete for the constructors championship and customers could stand a chance of the drivers if they were very lucky.

Davep24

62 posts

163 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Manual gearboxes and no telemetry, this will make the drivers do something and the pit crew wont know if the car is about to explode

Kermit74

79 posts

102 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I can't believe people are saying bring back refuelling. watching someone qualify in the top 5 to then peel off into the pits on lap 8? That's not racing, its artificial.

Schumacher won most of his championships without passing anyone on track I my eyes, it was all strategy.

Widen the track back to 1992 width. No DRS. Widen the tyres ( more than 2017 regs) and give them a free choice on tyre compound. Remove the rear wing, and give these guys enough fuel to go flat out till the flag.

MissChief

7,154 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Kermit74 said:
I can't believe people are saying bring back refuelling. watching someone qualify in the top 5 to then peel off into the pits on lap 8? That's not racing, its artificial.

Schumacher won most of his championships without passing anyone on track I my eyes, it was all strategy.

Widen the track back to 1992 width. No DRS. Widen the tyres ( more than 2017 regs) and give them a free choice on tyre compound. Remove the rear wing, and give these guys enough fuel to go flat out till the flag.
Agree about the refuelling. It was all strategy, very little passing happened on track. Refuelling=less passes on track.

I disagree about the fuel though. You could make the fuel tanks 500litres but no one would fill them. They rarely fill the tanks at most races as it is now. There's a fastest way to get to the end and that involves an element of under fuelling the car, especially if they expect a safety car. They hardly ever fill the car to the brim.

golfer19

1,565 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I agree with a few of the previous posters that the grid should be reversed.

hammo19

5,143 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Let them race all different formulas in a season

F1
V8 Supercars
DTM
Le Mans Series
BTCC
Formula Ford
Historic Super Tourers
WRC
F1 Superstocks
Moto GP
Speedway
Etc etc

Mad I know but what fun!


Jackspistonheadsaccount

85 posts

102 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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What about swapping all the drivers for BTCC drivers, that'd make for an interesting watch!

Other than that, reduce regulation, let them go mad, set a limit on something, be it BHP, torque, capacity, whatever, then leave the rest up to the teams, you'll get variation that way. The only problem is nowadays everything can be tested on a computer, so you won't get mad things that don't really work (such as "hey let's just add more wheels. More wheels = more grip). But you can still let the cars run how they want. You want to utilise DRS great, use it whenever you want! You wanna get rid of most of the aero and have a fan sucking the car to the floor, fantastic go for it. NOS? yes please? Think about it, smaller engine with the same power, less weight. Want to cover the wheels? Go for it. Enclosed cockpit. Sure do what you like. Four wheel drive? Four wheel steering?

How about letting them get on with designing the pinicle of engineering without going yes you can do that IH no you can't do that it has to be this way cause all you get is the same car painted different colours

RichardM5

1,749 posts

138 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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golfer19 said:
I agree with a few of the previous posters that the grid should be reversed.
For reverse grids to work there have to be points for qualifying, and not just for poll, otherwise you'd just get everyone tootling round trying to be slowest!

Dubmaster77

172 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Replace Pirelli with Nankang or Land sail road tyres!

ducnick

1,814 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Provide the tracks and 2 rules.

1. Stick to the tarmac
2, 1 diver per car


No other rules . Unlimited fuel, any fuel, any size or configuration of engine.

Any number of wheels, steer by brain input if u want. More wing than Concorde if you must..

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

160 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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The cars need to be quicker when following another car. The constant whinging about tyres going off or brakes overheating etc etc is crap.

Derek Smith

45,859 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Davep24 said:
Manual gearboxes and no telemetry, this will make the drivers do something and the pit crew wont know if the car is about to explode
I don't think going retro is such a good idea. Let's use modern technology. No one would seriously suggest going back to starting handles and manual advance and retard, so why fully manual g/boxes? I don't see what it would do for the spectacle.

I don't think there's a lot wrong with F1 as it is. But then the powers that be decide to change the regs and go for the dominance of aero. Yep, well done guys. Who could have predicted you'd do something so silly? I mean, apart from the fans. At the moment an endplate comes off and the car has to have the nose cone replaced because it slows the car. Next season a car with slightly damaged aero probably won't make it round the lap to get it fixed.

I know aero is technology, and more up to date than semi auto gearboxes and such, but the cars look terrible.

I saw a nosecone off a car at Mercedes-Benz World and it is a work of art. So stick it on a wall and let's go for a plank, if anything at the front. I think the reduced rear element doesn't look too bad. I accept it shouldn't be about looks, but they are more important than the sound.


jaketherake

3 posts

106 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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We keep hearing about how "F1 cars have so much downforce they can drive on the roof of a tunnel" so.... at one point of each race the track splits for a few hundred metres, one is a windy, slow chicane and the other a barrel roll that takes less time. Shows which drivers and teams have the confidence their car won't break down, rewarding those that take the risk!

Failing that, perhaps one way to level things and make it about the driver is to split component development between the teams: one team makes chassis, one engines, one gearboxes, one suspension, etc. and they all come together to make one car that's equal for all. That way the smaller teams can make the cheaper components but still compete with the bigger teams that can afford better drivers, rather than just be about most expensive car wins? My two cents at least!

CedricN

823 posts

147 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Many interesting ideas. In Sweden interest is fuelled atm by our Swedish driver. But in general getting new fans is pretty hard for the sport. The license to show f1 has become so expensive that you have to pay lots of dough every month for a special motor sport tv channel. So getting new people in is almost impossible. When i was young everyone could see it, and lots of people did, even if they were not hard core fans. That doesn't exist anymore. I think the greed is digging their own grave.

How is it in other countries with tv coverage?