The Official 2016 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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sanf said:
lord summerisle said:
Adrian W said:
Rosberg knew exactly what he was doing, fiddle with knob, look in mirror, see Hamilton, turn right.
http://int.search.myway.com/search/video.jhtml?sea...
I think that if they had been in different teams Rosberg would have got a penalty, the stewards took the view that the whole team had already been punished.
From Autosports reporting: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124305...http://int.search.myway.com/search/video.jhtml?sea...
I think that if they had been in different teams Rosberg would have got a penalty, the stewards took the view that the whole team had already been punished.
Rosberg said:
"Coming out of Turn 3 I noticed I was down on engine power, which in hindsight is because I was in an incorrect mode.
"The way for me to get more engine power is from my overtake button. You will see from the on-board I was pushing that, and I don't need to look where that is because I use it very, very often and I know where it is - top left-hand corner
"I saw Lewis closing in, and as soon as I could I closed the door. I covered the inside with a clear, strong move to make sure he understood there would not be space there.
"That's what you do, you close the inside door to make sure he doesn't get by.
"I was well aware of where he was at all times, and fully present to the battle. I was fully concentrated on Lewis.
"I was very surprised he went for it anyways, and that's it, we ended up in the gravel trap."
"The way for me to get more engine power is from my overtake button. You will see from the on-board I was pushing that, and I don't need to look where that is because I use it very, very often and I know where it is - top left-hand corner
"I saw Lewis closing in, and as soon as I could I closed the door. I covered the inside with a clear, strong move to make sure he understood there would not be space there.
"That's what you do, you close the inside door to make sure he doesn't get by.
"I was well aware of where he was at all times, and fully present to the battle. I was fully concentrated on Lewis.
"I was very surprised he went for it anyways, and that's it, we ended up in the gravel trap."
I like the way drivers only remember the bits they want to make themselves feel better. Or alternatively he was so maxed out changing settings that he's forgotten that he did that!! With so much on car analysis, drivers really should check the detail of their statements.
rdjohn said:
I would like to add my appreciation of the analysis you are doing and the thread opening. It would be great if you are able / have time to do some analysis on the long runs in FP2. The media concentrate on fastest lap when it is number of laps and lap average which gives a much better guide to race performance through tyre deg. SKY sometimes mention it but C4 have yet to think about it.
Perhaps other have similar issues, but the graphics on the opening page take ages to load in my 3-year old iPad, I think it is to do with jpgs of very different sizes.
Cool, will do more analyses if feeling inspired to do. Incidentally, I noticed C4 analyst Karun up to plotting some long runs after FP2 and posted it on twitter, but they didn't talk about it on-air I think? Perhaps other have similar issues, but the graphics on the opening page take ages to load in my 3-year old iPad, I think it is to do with jpgs of very different sizes.
Re: the pics, I think after the Red Bull switch the updated jpeg for the tyre allocation was a large file, it sometimes takes a while for me too. I will try to find smaller jpegs in the future if possible.
EagleMoto4-2 said:
I read on the BBC website that Hamilton's pole lap astounded everyone in the pitlane. Was it really that good or was Benson blowing smoke up Hammy's arse again?
I was more impressed with the first run where he locked up to be honest. That was shaping up to be an epic lap and I remember thinking, here comes the pole lap as it was unfolding. Then, a crack appeared and I had flashes of 2014.
NJK44 said:
I genuinely believe he had no right to defend, if having problems with your car.
You can't believe this, surely. Saying he defended badly is one thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed to defend because his car lost horsepower for a few seconds? Guys fighting it out in a dying car is one of the great spectacles of F1 when they can manage it. What do you think of Schumacher's incredible second place in Spain '95, where he drove 2/3rds of the race on one gear? Or any race that Alonso or Button had last year- should they have just pulled aside as though blue flagged? Or Hamilton finishing at Russia with his car in bits?
glazbagun said:
You can't believe this, surely. Saying he defended badly is one thing, but saying he shouldn't be allowed to defend because his car lost horsepower for a few seconds?
Guys fighting it out in a dying car is one of the great spectacles of F1 when they can manage it. What do you think of Schumacher's incredible second place in Spain '95, where he drove 2/3rds of the race on one gear? Or any race that Alonso or Button had last year- should they have just pulled aside as though blue flagged? Or Hamilton finishing at Russia with his car in bits?
or Schumacher's incredible defence with knackered suspension in '94 Guys fighting it out in a dying car is one of the great spectacles of F1 when they can manage it. What do you think of Schumacher's incredible second place in Spain '95, where he drove 2/3rds of the race on one gear? Or any race that Alonso or Button had last year- should they have just pulled aside as though blue flagged? Or Hamilton finishing at Russia with his car in bits?
Maybe it's a German thing?
Edited by angrymoby on Tuesday 17th May 13:27
angrymoby said:
or Schumacher's incredible defence with knackered suspension in '94
Maybe it's a German thing?
Maybe it's a German thing?
Edited by angrymoby on Tuesday 17th May 13:27
Although I still havent forgiven Schumacher for that, reviewing the incident after this race led me to an interview right after with Damon where he pretty much says "that's racing". It's what I thought when I saw Bamilton covering his face. I don't think he was thinking "I've been robbed" but rather "If only I'd played it safer!"I can still remember hill sitting in the pits staring at his broken suspension arm while Schumacher contemplated the loss of his WDC thanks to one corner. Also, if people think the gap between front runners is too high now, they would have hated the 90's! The Spanish GP I referred to above (was 94, not 95) had everyone lapped up to 4th!
glazbagun said:
Although I still havent forgiven Schumacher for that, reviewing the incident after this race led me to an interview right after with Damon where he pretty much says "that's racing". It's what I thought when I saw Bamilton covering his face. I don't think he was thinking "I've been robbed" but rather "If only I'd played it safer!"I can still remember hill sitting in the pits staring at his broken suspension arm while Schumacher contemplated the loss of his WDC thanks to one corner. Also, if people think the gap between front runners is too high now, they would have hated the 90's! The Spanish GP I referred to above (was 94, not 95) had everyone lapped up to 4th!
Saying that, Nico's not in the same league (both in talent or malevolence)
Other have said if it had happened the other way round we'd all be b
hing about Nico trying to overtake in desperation. I disagree. If Lewis had swung wildly off the racing line and put Nico on the grass I'd be the first to blame Lewis.
I'm also staggered as to the 50:50 blame, Lauda and Stewart comments. What the hell was Lewis suppose to do, just hang back even though he had a massive speed advantage over Nico? Everyone seems to be saying he should've expected Nico to defend wildly and just sit behind him.
100% Nico's fault IMO.
hing about Nico trying to overtake in desperation. I disagree. If Lewis had swung wildly off the racing line and put Nico on the grass I'd be the first to blame Lewis.I'm also staggered as to the 50:50 blame, Lauda and Stewart comments. What the hell was Lewis suppose to do, just hang back even though he had a massive speed advantage over Nico? Everyone seems to be saying he should've expected Nico to defend wildly and just sit behind him.
100% Nico's fault IMO.
100% both their faults in my view. Possibly 60/40 in proportion, the cause and outcome is the same. Both had an opportunity to back out of it but chose not to. Both made mistakes of judgement and selective memory, all mixed up with a splash of red mist. There is a philosophy that only one person can be to blame for things, in the real world things are rarely so clear cut.
jbudgie said:
Smollet said:
How's about this for a tinfoil hat theory. Hamilton now realising this year's title is looking more likely to go to Britney he will do his utmost to scupper his chances thus giving the title to a rival team denying Rosberg of it 
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