My Engine won't fit!

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chassis

Original Poster:

300 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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As you might have known in my past I had desired to put in Ferrari engine in my Punto Sport Ferrari.
This is what I have called the name.
Engine from the Ferrari is quite expensive so have been to my scrapyard friend to find out engine that is much less.
I have bought a big engine but do not know what it is.
When looking at it now it looks much bigger than the engine place of my Punto. I think this is a problem.

I need help from my petrol friend!!
Can you tell me how I going to make this engine go into my car and if I can take out pieces to make it smaller? I know you can provide solution for me because you help me a long time ago with many other problem.
Thank you.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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The only way you can achieve this is to:

Chop the engine into bits

remove the engine from the punto

Eat the engine in bits followed by several portions of Vindaloo

Shat the new engine into the punto engine compartment

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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Does it - by any chance - has PERKINS written on it?

moleamol

15,887 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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Is that not how all Punto engines are made nonegreen?

What you should do is just drop it into the engine bay, if it sticks out a bit just cut out the bonnet around it, that way it will look cool as well as be mega fast

rude girl

6,937 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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Bodo said: Does it - by any chance - has PERKINS written on it?


Classic. I need to buy you a beer sometime. I have had a seriously difficult day at work (17 hours straight through), and this made me laugh out loud.

big_man

1,419 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th November 2002
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strip out the back seats and stick the engine in the back and then you can keep the original engine for extra power!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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chassis, If you want a really big engine, a mate of mine has a Merlin which could be for sale. Just think you could be one of the few.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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rude girl said:

Bodo said: Does it - by any chance - has PERKINS written on it?


Classic. I need to buy you a beer sometime. I have had a seriously difficult day at work (17 hours straight through), and this made me laugh out loud.



That was a serious question - honest, officer!

btw, what project is it worth working 17h for it? Discovering virgin soil in engine adaptions?

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Wasn't HungryJim working on "compacting" a Ferrari V8 to fit into an Elise? He was going to supercharge it as well. You two should get together again - it was soooo much fun last time.

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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mungo said:Hmm... big object, small hole... sounds like a familiar issue . Tell you what you could lubri...
Fish oil?

chassis

Original Poster:

300 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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I have noticed much of the workings of the engine since I brought it from the scrapyard.
Is it normal for the shiny objects that go up and down to be moving out the top.
My Punto does not have these but then a Ferrari I saw does not have them either.
HungryJim is a man who loves to stroke his dog too much and I will not respect him.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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How many shiny objects are there? Seven, nine or eleven?

Don't diss HJ too much, at least he loves his growler.

Edited because it's Wednesday.

>> Edited by Captain Muppet on Wednesday 20th November 10:17

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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chassis said: I have noticed much of the workings of the engine since I brought it from the scrapyard.
Is it normal for the shiny objects that go up and down to be moving out the top.
My Punto does not have these but then a Ferrari I saw does not have them either.
HungryJim is a man who loves to stroke his dog too much and I will not respect him.


Chassis, Welcome back. What you describe is good news - the fact that you can see the shiny bits moving means you have a very rare engine indeed.

The shiny bits are called 'pissed-ons' and there is no-one else more deserving of this golden technology. The engine will be quieter as there is none of that awful noisy valve gear to stop you hearing your Abba CD whilst cruising.

The engine was originally developed by Maximillian P Ower from Nova Scotia with the sole aim of attracting more nubile female passengers than TVRs, Porsches etc. The unbelievable ease with which girls (or chicks as he called them) could be enticed in to his car led to the engine being called the Max P Ower "Chick-in".

Yours is probably the only 'Headless Chickin' engine in existence and should give you much pleasure. If you wish to explore the art further his next engine did not need passengers as it was for sole use and sounded similar to a Wankel.

Cheers.


CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Good effort, JSG

chassis

Original Poster:

300 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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You guy really know alot more than me, thank you for the time it takes you to write.
If I give you measurement of how big the engine is then maybe you can help me?
Have phoned my scrapyard friend and he has told me it is a big 'Rover' engine with eight pisstons.
Now how do I fit in my Punto? How does a engine stick to the car?
These are questions which are easy for you but not for me.

JSG

2,238 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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chassis said: You guy really know alot more than me, thank you for the time it takes you to write.

No problem, thats what we're here for.

If I give you measurement of how big the engine is then maybe you can help me?
Yes, measure away. unit of measure should be microns.

Have phoned my scrapyard friend and he has told me it is a big 'Rover' engine with eight pisstons.
Now how do I fit in my Punto? How does a engine stick to the car?

Velcro is the best option as this allows you to fine tune the position for best weight distribution. You will need to do this as a serious car builder.

Good Luck.

Imelda

793 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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JSG said: Velcro is the best option as this allows you to fine tune the position for best weight distribution. You will need to do this as a serious car builder.

Good Luck.


That's all very well JSG but this is a big Rover V8 and may be quite heavy. Velcro may not be enough to hold it securely in place. I understand that the best thing to do is string an old towrope in a criss-cross fashion under the engine for added security. This can be tied off by attaching the ends to the shock absorbers or brake calipers, whichever is easiest to get at.

chassis

Original Poster:

300 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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I am not sure rope would be enough.
My Punto has no sign of rope in the engine.
I deduce that welding or a metal glue will be better.
I have already started removing parts of my punto to make room for it.
I am putting it in order so if I do a wrong thing I can put it back together.
The head of the Rover engine is still at the scrapyard so I collect this soon. But how to get there now I have no car?

kevinday

11,641 posts

281 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Unfortunately the Rover engine is a bit of a dog, you should change its name to Jaguar as this is much more slinky and is smooth in operation, a bit like a cat.

As JSG said Velcro is good for fine adjustment, once adjusted you could use double sided tape to hold it in position. Alternatively, because the engine is alloy, you could mount it on the wheel hub for excellent looks and good rotational speeds.

Aprisa

1,803 posts

259 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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AS we have established that you are not goingto use the head on this V8 it will already be somewhat smaller due to no messy exhaust manifolds etc.
Next step is to saw off off the unnecessary tiing gear from the front (cogs and chains bit) as these are not needed. If it is still too long maybe the front two cylinders could also go V6 with no head should be nearly as powerful as a V8 with no head?
Once connected to the original transmission (may need some adaptation, suggest ledo technics off road racer gears etc) I reckon the best move would be to wire up the starter motor to be permanantly live with the ignition. this setup should produce similar power to the Punto engine, remember to turn off the ignition each time you want to change gear to avoid clutch damage. HTH
Nick