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mel
Original Poster
8,509 posts
105 months
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After a particulary heavy dinner night in the city on Friday (HAC) a load of my mates and brother carried on and went to sample some of Londons classier table dancing clubs, the only problem was that becasue this had been a military dinner a fair few of them were in mess uniform, now these aren't bog standard squaddies but all blokes between mid twenties to early forties ranking from Capt' to LtCol, most of whom have seen a fair amount of active duty. Now ok a few years ago when PIRA were active uniforms on the streets were a no no but now days things have softened a bit. So off we toodled. First stop was the Windmill club to be greeted by a tosser doorman who said I quote "Sorry lads you can't come in dressed like that" errrrrrrr why "well we've got Muslim clients and they might take offence its the whole gulf thing you know"..........flash to bang time was about 2 pico seconds before the eruption of "Muslims fvcking muslims drinking booze and boggleing naked birds in a strip club how fvcking hypocritical". "Right thats it your deffinately not coming in now fvck off" Anyway next stop was Stringfellows to be greated by "Hello boys come in no entrance charge its Peter Stringfellows policy for military personnel, he's proud of what you do" what a superb reaction and a splendid night was had with mountains of extra attention, and a few of the lads even ending up in the VIP suite.
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shnozz
14,816 posts
101 months
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nice touch you c  
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Mad Dave
5,603 posts
93 months
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Very nice  Right.........i'm off down the fancy dress shop
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shnozz
14,816 posts
101 months
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Mad Dave said:Very nice
Right.........i'm off down the fancy dress shop |
I think all the pole dancing outfits have been hired out already.
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Mad Dave
5,603 posts
93 months
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TonyOut
582 posts
72 months
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mel said:Peter Stringfellows policy for military personnel, he's proud of what you do" what a superb reaction and a splendid night was had with mountains of extra attention, and a few of the lads even ending up in the VIP suite.
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Mrs Fish
29,182 posts
88 months
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shnozz said:
Mad Dave said:Very nice
Right.........i'm off down the fancy dress shop |
I think all the pole dancing outfits have been hired out already. |
 
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rospa
494 posts
78 months
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Not quite sure what you mean by mess uniform but presumably some sort of uniform which immediately allows identification of the holder as a member of the armed forces.
Personally, I think it is nothing sort of scandalous that soldiers are out and about - in uniform - on the pi55.
Fine in civvies but in uniform just leaves a very nasty taste in my mouth.
The potential for trouble os just unbelieveable.
CO should knock it on the head. Immediately.
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tonker
27,605 posts
78 months
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these are not just squaddies and anyway, what's wrong with being proud to wear your uniform - these guys stand up and be counted. Full mess uniform is the equivalent of a dinner suit for this lot.
Stringfellow may be a comedy figure, but he deserves credit for this one. Why should there be trouble - knowng officers, it's only likely to happen if they get provoked (seriously) then who is to blame - are you suggesting that a soldier should not be proud to represent his country and his regiment and should hide. No.
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Alpineandy
1,390 posts
73 months
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Most of the clubs don't want forces in incase they take offence at one of their 'rip-offs'. 10 trained soldiers can make 10 bouncers look like little kids (until they've had 10 pints to slow them down).
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jvaughan
4,504 posts
113 months
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tonker said:these are not just squaddies and anyway, what's wrong with being proud to wear your uniform - these guys stand up and be counted. Full mess uniform is the equivalent of a dinner suit for this lot.
Stringfellow may be a comedy figure, but he deserves credit for this one. Why should there be trouble - knowng officers, it's only likely to happen if they get provoked (seriously) then who is to blame - are you suggesting that a soldier should not be proud to represent his country and his regiment and should hide. No. |
Peter Stringfellow is a top Bloke ... I met him a few years ago. Very bad hair, but a top bloke.
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tonker
27,605 posts
78 months
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it was mainly the hair and the orange leather he seems to wear as skin I meant. I can't see him moving back to Sheffield like that.
Perhaps he should take his girls on tour and replace Jim Davidson - can't see the troops disagreeing much with that one (and we'll send a couple of Chippendales for the girly troops).
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jvaughan
4,504 posts
113 months
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tonker said:it was mainly the hair and the orange leather he seems to wear as skin I meant. I can't see him moving back to Sheffield like that.
Perhaps he should take his girls on tour and replace Jim Davidson - can't see the troops disagreeing much with that one (and we'll send a couple of Chippendales for the girly troops). |
Went to the Mayflower inSouthampton to see Jim Davison in Sinderella .... well worth going to see. absolutly funny, with boobs and bums !
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Davel
5,003 posts
88 months
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Generally the troops do us proud - like everything else in life, its the few who spoil it for the others.
They should be proud to show off their uniforms and great respect to Peter Stringfellow for welcoming them into his club like that.
I bet there was little or no trouble from the guys who were treated so well.
There's many more nasty sods out there who have nothing to do with our armed forces....
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MILF
1,209 posts
75 months
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Always thought it strange when people take the proverbial out of Mr Stringfellow.
Heres a self made man from Yorkshire (so top bloke there to start with), who in every interview I have ever seen him in never takes himself too serious. In addition, he's nearly 60 now but still parties all night and has the pick of just about every young nubile woman he comes across.
Yeah real idiot him ! (by the way Peter in the unlikely that your reading this, if you need a junior partner to assist you in running your business, just feel free to contact me. Im eager to learn).
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rospa
494 posts
78 months
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tonker said:these are not just squaddies and anyway, what's wrong with being proud to wear your uniform - these guys stand up and be counted. Full mess uniform is the equivalent of a dinner suit for this lot.
Stringfellow may be a comedy figure, but he deserves credit for this one. Why should there be trouble - knowng officers, it's only likely to happen if they get provoked (seriously) then who is to blame - are you suggesting that a soldier should not be proud to represent his country and his regiment and should hide. No. |
Absolutely not. But drinking in a public place when in uniform is way over the mark. Being proud is one thing, representing your country etc, is another. Drinking in uniform is, IMHO, just totally unnecessary.
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JWH
202 posts
94 months
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rospa said:
tonker said:these are not just squaddies and anyway, what's wrong with being proud to wear your uniform - these guys stand up and be counted. Full mess uniform is the equivalent of a dinner suit for this lot.
Stringfellow may be a comedy figure, but he deserves credit for this one. Why should there be trouble - knowng officers, it's only likely to happen if they get provoked (seriously) then who is to blame - are you suggesting that a soldier should not be proud to represent his country and his regiment and should hide. No. |
Absolutely not. But drinking in a public place when in uniform is way over the mark. Being proud is one thing, representing your country etc, is another. Drinking in uniform is, IMHO, just totally unnecessary. |
Have you ever been involved with any of the forces or their personnel? Drinking is (rightly or wrongly) an intrinsic part of the lifestyle, why shouldn't anyone be pround to wear their uniform in public and enjoy themselves at the same time? If it isn't taken to excess I see no problem. Edited to say that wasn't meant to sound so antagonsitic! >> Edited by JWH on Monday 17th May 20:24
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munky
4,147 posts
78 months
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tonker said:| these are not just squaddies and anyway, what's wrong with being proud to wear your uniform - these guys stand up and be counted. |
What? No privates in Stringfellows? What's the point then?
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mel
Original Poster
8,509 posts
105 months
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rospa said:Not quite sure what you mean by mess uniform but presumably some sort of uniform which immediately allows identification of the holder as a member of the armed forces.
Personally, I think it is nothing sort of scandalous that soldiers are out and about - in uniform - on the pi55.
Fine in civvies but in uniform just leaves a very nasty taste in my mouth.
The potential for trouble os just unbelieveable.
CO should knock it on the head. Immediately. |
PMSL at the whole logic of this arguemnt, however to answer the question "mess uniform" is the formal i.e evening wear uniform, it is designed and intended to be worn while dining, drinking and socialising and if that extends outside from behind the barbed wire fences put in place when Irish terrorism was a problem then so be it. Only 20 years ago men in uniform were a common site in garrison towns all over the country and if its now safe for the individuals personal safety to return to that, then its a good thing. In this instance the people involved were mature and responsible adults, the CO would struggle to "knock it on the head" as he was there, as was his 2I/C, a couple sqn' OC's and their respective 2I/C's i.e it was the brass of the regiment. These are men that have earnt the medals they wear and among them they include numerous campaign medals, a handfull of OBE's, and a QGM, maybe we ought to ban chelsea pensioners being seen in public, infact sod it lets scrub rememberance sunday, we are talking here about live active serving members who have the right to be proud. On a foot note when you go abroad in Israel the soliders go to bars and lean weapons on the bar, in the states its normal to seen service men on the town, and infact in the mid 80's I was sent home from Dartmouth for my first long weekend in training having not earnt the right to wear my own clothes. I was loaded on a train and sent across London in the evening in my best uniform it was part of being schooled in pride of what you've earnt. As for the potential for trouble ???? Like what ????? domestic i.e irish terrorism and almost disapeared and if the individuals are mature and rsponsible they should be able to extract themselves from a lairy drunk.
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rospa
494 posts
78 months
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mel said:
rospa said:Not quite sure what you mean by mess uniform but presumably some sort of uniform which immediately allows identification of the holder as a member of the armed forces.
Personally, I think it is nothing sort of scandalous that soldiers are out and about - in uniform - on the pi55.
Fine in civvies but in uniform just leaves a very nasty taste in my mouth.
The potential for trouble os just unbelieveable.
CO should knock it on the head. Immediately. |
PMSL at the whole logic of this arguemnt, however to answer the question "mess uniform" is the formal i.e evening wear uniform, it is designed and intended to be worn while dining, drinking and socialising and if that extends outside from behind the barbed wire fences put in place when Irish terrorism was a problem then so be it. Only 20 years ago men in uniform were a common site in garrison towns all over the country and if its now safe for the individuals personal safety to return to that, then its a good thing. In this instance the people involved were mature and responsible adults, the CO would struggle to "knock it on the head" as he was there, as was his 2I/C, a couple sqn' OC's and their respective 2I/C's i.e it was the brass of the regiment. These are men that have earnt the medals they wear and among them they include numerous campaign medals, a handfull of OBE's, and a QGM, maybe we ought to ban chelsea pensioners being seen in public, infact sod it lets scrub rememberance sunday, we are talking here about live active serving members who have the right to be proud.
On a foot note when you go abroad in Israel the soliders go to bars and lean weapons on the bar, in the states its normal to seen service men on the town, and infact in the mid 80's I was sent home from Dartmouth for my first long weekend in training having not earnt the right to wear my own clothes. I was loaded on a train and sent across London in the evening in my best uniform it was part of being schooled in pride of what you've earnt.
As for the potential for trouble ???? Like what ????? domestic i.e irish terrorism and almost disapeared and if the individuals are mature and rsponsible they should be able to extract themselves from a lairy drunk. |
mel Thanks for explaining that. I think I may have put my point over badly. I have no problem with armed forces personnnel wearing a unfiform. I have no problems with people paying their respects to fallen comrades. I've never missed a remeberence day service for the last 15 years. I salute those men and women who laid down their lives for me and my peers in two worlds wars. My father served his National Service in the Parachute Regiment. He then went on to do the same in the TA. He also did some other stuff. At no time did I suggest that people should not be proud of their uniform or anything of that nature. I just do not think that the uniform should be so disrespected that the wearers drink alcohol at the same time.
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