Use rear facing carseats until children are four

Use rear facing carseats until children are four

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Coco H

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4,237 posts

239 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Advised here;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8094829.stm

Makes sense.

But then if you try to buy a rear-facing seat for a child over one.;..

Little choice
Expensive
Very large & Bulky
Children often grow out of them before they are supposed to

I wonder what they use on the continent then?

Pints

18,444 posts

196 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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What do they propose we do with the child's legs? Have you tried fitting rear facing childseat and then fitting a taller child in it?

mike325112

1,070 posts

186 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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I have enough trouble fitting a new borns rear facing seat into my 1 series. Like you say just how big are the seats they use in Sweden?

Get Karter

1,938 posts

203 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Hans device would do the same thing as a rear facing seat, wrt upper spine injury protection from frontal impact.......hmmm, business opportunity...the child helmet and hans device

scratchchin


Coco H

Original Poster:

4,237 posts

239 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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I did a bit of research and they are meant to be used rear facing until 18kg. My 3 year old is a tall chunky nearly 18 kg boy. I have no idea how I would squash him into one.
My one year old is 17lbs and so would probably be happily in one for some time.
I want to get 3 car seats accross the back of my impreza.... not going to happen with one of these

james_tigerwoods

16,298 posts

199 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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And how the freakin' hell would that work? My one year old wouldn't fit in a rear facing seat now and she'd be bored stless from looking at the back of a chair - plus how would it fit, how big would it be and how annoyed would my one year old be if she had to do that??

Coco H

Original Poster:

4,237 posts

239 months

JamesK

2,124 posts

281 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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ludicrous

Coco H

Original Poster:

4,237 posts

239 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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This suggests they fit in the middle back seat possibly and you need a bog car

"the Polaric is a big car seat. Fitting requires a minium of 70 cm from isofix point to back of the passenger / driver seat. This may affect your driving position or that of your front passenger"

Mc lovin

5,588 posts

223 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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I saw this on News 24 this morning, what a total joke.

Yes it maybe safer, but you try getting even a 1yr old to sit in a rear faceing seat, its just not possible, with the added distraction of your child going nuts you are more likely to have an accident in the first place.

Do any of these people actually have kids of their own....

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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My three year old is another 18kg, 107cm monster. No way would he fit in a rear-facing seat of any description. Either we need Hans Devices (imagine how easy it would be to get a writhing ball of energy and muscle into one of those!) or redesigned cars with rear-facing rear seats. Otherwise, perhaps we should just be sensible.

raceboy

13,153 posts

282 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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How many people posting on here were sitting in a rear facing child seat in their Dads car all those years ago?
How many people posting on here are dead?

More pointless Health & Safety nannying. wink

Little raceboy learned a valuble lesson yesterday, hang on when 'daddys' driving as oversteer makes his booster seat slide across the leather. driving

carl_w

9,250 posts

260 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Rear-facing aircraft seats are also safer. But they're only configured that way round on military aircraft.

interloper

2,747 posts

257 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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I think its another anti car ploy, its to make sure kids having nothing but bad memories of travelling in odd child seats all the way up till age 10 or 12 or when ever the ludicrous cut off age is. Also it makes car owner ship for young familys even more costly and awkward.

Mr_Yogi

3,280 posts

257 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Seems totally unworkable, my little'n is only 8 months (21lb ish) but can already touch the back of seat with his toes when he's strpped into his rear facing car seat.

Said seat is huge and only just fits through the door and between the front seat, to get it into the car (Aygo 3 door). And with him in it, is pretty damn heavy, can't imagine how his mum would put him into the car (in car seat) if he weighed another 10-15lb. Even putting him in the seat inside the car and then turning the seat around is a performance.

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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In reality what it means is car design has been wrong for many many years. All passenger seats should be rear facing (front passenger able to lock forward or back facing would be good). Only the driver really needs to see where he's going. That way mummy can be facing the back of the kids who are in the back of the car. And so able to give them a clip around the ear when they play up.

james_tigerwoods

16,298 posts

199 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Having watched the video, that's fine and logical, but look at the legs of the dummy in the rear facing seat - it, surely, can't be good for the child to have their legs squashed up like that?

And how would this work - family of 4 with a 1 year old and a 3 year old in a Focus or Golf - A rear facing seat would take up a lot of room behind the driver and passenger which would mean the driver ends up being pressed against the steering wheel, how is that safe?

ETA - How pissed off does this child look:



Edited by james_tigerwoods on Friday 12th June 10:03

raceboy

13,153 posts

282 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Munter said:
In reality what it means is car design has been wrong for many many years. All passenger seats should be rear facing (front passenger able to lock forward or back facing would be good). Only the driver really needs to see where he's going. That way mummy can be facing the back of the kids who are in the back of the car. And so able to give them a clip around the ear when they play up.
You don't have shares in a travel sickness pill company do you? wink

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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raceboy said:
Munter said:
In reality what it means is car design has been wrong for many many years. All passenger seats should be rear facing (front passenger able to lock forward or back facing would be good). Only the driver really needs to see where he's going. That way mummy can be facing the back of the kids who are in the back of the car. And so able to give them a clip around the ear when they play up.
You don't have shares in a travel sickness pill company do you? wink
No but I can sell you a good line in "man up and you'll get used to it" hypnotism CDs.... hehe

Hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

242 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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How are they supposed to learn to drive when they are facing the wrong way?