V-power/High Octane, can you fine stronger stuff in the UK?

V-power/High Octane, can you fine stronger stuff in the UK?

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tomvcarter

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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Hi,
Im off to VMAX this weekend and was going to fill up with V-power/High Octane, but was just wondering if its possible to can you find stronger stuff in the UK? ie 98+???
And were can i find it?
Tks

Superhoop

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195 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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Tesco sell high octane, which they state to 99 Ron

petrolsniffer

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176 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Old artical so they might of stopped selling it?

Edited by petrolsniffer on Tuesday 10th May 09:40

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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tescos do 99

BP used to do 103 at very few outlets if not its off to buy race fuel

300bhp/ton

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192 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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tomvcarter said:
Hi,
Im off to VMAX this weekend and was going to fill up with V-power/High Octane, but was just wondering if its possible to can you find stronger stuff in the UK? ie 98+???
And were can i find it?
Tks
What do you mean stronger stuff?? Octanes have nothing to do with such a thing.

What sort of car do you have? And is it tuned or capable of dynamically remapping for higher octane fuel?

I believe some (few) BP places sell 103 or 104 octane race fuel. Or there are specialist outlets that you can buy race fuel in barrels. Rather expensive though and if your car isn't setup to make the most of it, then you'll see little or no real gains.

tomvcarter

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I ment stronger as a figure of speech, im not a trained Bio-Chemist so to me higher numbers equals more potent fuel "Stronger stuff".
Im in a tuned C63 AMG, but as to wether it can handle 103 etc im not sure so will check with Kleemann.
If i were to fill up on 103 from BP would i be wasting my time? and does 99 really give any advantage over the standard 95?


300bhp/ton said:
What do you mean stronger stuff?? Octanes have nothing to do with such a thing.

What sort of car do you have? And is it tuned or capable of dynamically remapping for higher octane fuel?

I believe some (few) BP places sell 103 or 104 octane race fuel. Or there are specialist outlets that you can buy race fuel in barrels. Rather expensive though and if your car isn't setup to make the most of it, then you'll see little or no real gains.

Mr MXT

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285 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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BP have discontinued Ultimate 102 I believe.

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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tomvcarter said:
I ment stronger as a figure of speech, im not a trained Bio-Chemist so to me higher numbers equals more potent fuel "Stronger stuff".
Im in a tuned C63 AMG, but as to wether it can handle 103 etc im not sure so will check with Kleemann.
If i were to fill up on 103 from BP would i be wasting my time? and does 99 really give any advantage over the standard 95?
You can put higher octane fuel in, it won't do any harm. But it might not make a huge difference.

Is the C63 na or FI? If it's FI and modded I'd have thought it'd need superunleaded.

Higher octane means more stable burn. So less chance of predetonation. This allows you to run a more aggressive state of tune with less risk.

tomvcarter

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300bhp/ton said:
You can put higher octane fuel in, it won't do any harm. But it might not make a huge difference.

Is the C63 na or FI? If it's FI and modded I'd have thought it'd need superunleaded.

Higher octane means more stable burn. So less chance of predetonation. This allows you to run a more aggressive state of tune with less risk.
I personally us 98 anyhow, but not sure what you mean by na or FI?

iphonedyou

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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tomvcarter said:
I personally us 98 anyhow, but not sure what you mean by na or FI?
Naturally aspirated or forced induction.

PabloTeK

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
What do you mean stronger stuff?? Octanes have nothing to do with such a thing.

What sort of car do you have? And is it tuned or capable of dynamically remapping for higher octane fuel?

I believe some (few) BP places sell 103 or 104 octane race fuel. Or there are specialist outlets that you can buy race fuel in barrels. Rather expensive though and if your car isn't setup to make the most of it, then you'll see little or no real gains.
You mean like this Sunoco 109RON: http://www.aaoil.co.uk/racing-Sunoco-GT-PLUShehe

E30M3SE

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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A standard C63 is NA, Kleemann versions are also NA IIRC.

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tomvcarter said:
I personally us 98 anyhow, but not sure what you mean by na or FI?
I'd just stick to superunleaded, personally I like Tesco 99 or Shell V-Power.

I have found most modern cars will run slightly smoother on higher octane fuel and often slightly more economical, so the cost per mile is no different to running 95 RON.

tomvcarter

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i did not realise that it helped economically,thats good news, i will give it a try on the motorway this weekend.
Thanks

300bhp/ton said:
I'd just stick to superunleaded, personally I like Tesco 99 or Shell V-Power.

I have found most modern cars will run slightly smoother on higher octane fuel and often slightly more economical, so the cost per mile is no different to running 95 RON.

300bhp/ton

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tomvcarter said:
i did not realise that it helped economically,thats good news, i will give it a try on the motorway this weekend.
Thanks
It's not a night and day difference, but I think in most cars it's worth 1-2mpg, maybe a bit more. So in terms of pence per mile it doesn't cost anymore to run.

But the differences on naturally aspirated engines are normally subtle and minimal in terms of power and delivery.

I do run my TR7 V8 on 99 octane and I certainly think it runs a lot better on, but then it's cammed and has had quite a bit of work done to it.

And turbo powered cars will normally run a lot better on higher octane stuff.

300bhp/ton

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Just to add a bit more.

For VMAX, yes use high octane stuff, although for cost purposes I'd stick to superunleaded grades (97-99 RON) rather than race grades.

This is because most modern cars have a knock sensor, this detects pre-detonation and will retard the timing. This means should you get knock, the ECU will compensate but you'll get less power.

Full power wide open high speed throttle runs (even more so on a hot day) are more inclined to suffer knock than normal pottering about. Even on n/a standard engines.

tomvcarter

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PabloTeK said:
You mean like this Sunoco 109RON: http://www.aaoil.co.uk/racing-Sunoco-GT-PLUShehe
smile how about i mix some in

tomvcarter

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E30M3SE said:
A standard C63 is NA, Kleemann versions are also NA IIRC.
Sorry but what is IIRC?

Stoatman

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Tuesday 10th May 2011
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If I Recall Correctly IIRC.

tomvcarter

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Stoatman said:
If I Recall Correctly IIRC.
clever, thanks