To VAG or not to VAG...

To VAG or not to VAG...

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carparkno1

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1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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So the accord has been an absolute rock but the time is now for a fun hot hatch before impending baby plans lead me to overcomponsate and get a giant volvo.

Was looking at the M135i but can't justify the numbers right now which led me to think about a bit of gti or something for a year.

Looking at mk5s they seem to be at 6-8k for a solid one privately and that is tempting. On the other side the Leon fr is cheaper but the interior looks a bit cheap. Cupra an option?

Can anyone advise are there significant difference between a Leon fr and a gti? Aside from interior would I miss out on much if I went Spanish? Well, germanic Spanish lol

All advice appreciated hhappy to pull the trigger on a good golf if that's the consensus.

Ps anyone want a 2006 accord for a good price :-)

Cheersm

Rumple

11,671 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I have never driven anything VAG that I liked,I have driven the MK5 Golf TDI and thought it was cack, the main problem being the front end felt really heavy, however the GTI is well regarded, a friend had one and had it remapped, his other car was a 335ci, he thought the Golf was the better car, I would do the GTI thing and wait for 135 values to drop, the Golf will always have a strong depreciation, keep it a year and you wont lose to much money, you may even love it and keep it.

Rumple

11,671 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Oh and regarding the Cupra v GTI, the GTI all day for me if I had to choose.

AudiWurst

4,545 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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How about a 5 door BMW 130i?

RWD, great engine, just about squeezes into budget.

carparkno1

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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AudiWurst said:
How about a 5 door BMW 130i?

RWD, great engine, just about squeezes into budget.
It's on the list, with three or four others like an s2000, brera (for the looks) and a vrs of some sort.

Just want to get an idea of quality/drive differences between a seat and a Vw. As it's only for a year potentially I want to have the most fun but it needs to be a decent enough place to sit. The Leon fascia does look honking without a sat Nav to cover it up! !

JimmyConwayNW

3,077 posts

126 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I always found the mk5 GTI to have really sweet handling balance, and it was a little down on power compared to its rivals but could really be hustled to keep up. I think the build quality is fairly decent as you come to expect with a golf.

If you pick the right car I shouldn't see you losing a great deal either.

Why would this car not be suitable for a having a child, particularly so if you get the 5dr?

lewisf182

2,091 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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will people stop suggesting 130i's please, hard enough finding one as it is frown

For me the Golf GTi is a better prospect than the Leon, although the Leon looks better the interior is horrendous. Find a Golf GTI with full leather and its a nice place, as a bonus can easily retrofit items such as android based head units which look OEM and so on. What about an R32? May provide more thrills if only keeping for a year what with the noise they make?

carparkno1

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Already have a teenager and eventually want a 330d touring or something along those lines. This is just a fun thing for me in the meantime rather than committing to a long term purchase.

3000GT ANT

347 posts

157 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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What about a focus ST? Astra VXR? megane sport? Mazda MPS?

JimmyConwayNW

3,077 posts

126 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Have to agree about the leather really transforms the GTI's interior and also upgrading to a newer head unit is relatively painless.

They respond well to remaps aswell.


essIII

363 posts

145 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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lewisf182 said:
will people stop suggesting 130i's please, hard enough finding one as it is frown

For me the Golf GTi is a better prospect than the Leon, although the Leon looks better the interior is horrendous. Find a Golf GTI with full leather and its a nice place, as a bonus can easily retrofit items such as android based head units which look OEM and so on. What about an R32? May provide more thrills if only keeping for a year what with the noise they make?
Horrendous is a tad harsh - http://www.ukcardeal.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/SEAT...

Have had a Cupra, Mk5 R32 and an S3 - I'd take the cupra or s3 over the r32 anyday - once the novelty of the noise wears off, it's a frustratingly lazy engine.

carparkno1

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1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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3000GT ANT said:
What about a focus ST? Astra VXR? megane sport? Mazda MPS?
Already had a mazda and focus_ admittedly not the hot versions but just want something I haven't one before. The right st wouldn't get turned down mind.

carparkno1

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1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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3000GT ANT said:
What about a focus ST? Astra VXR? megane sport? Mazda MPS?
Already had a mazda and focus_ admittedly not the hot versions but just want something I haven't one before. The right st wouldn't get turned down mind.

GreatGranny

9,169 posts

227 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Buy this, but be quick, he's trading it in tomorrow :-)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...

Hudson

1,857 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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The R32 is another 50bhp over the GTi (according to wikipedia) and they sound awesome. Very thirsty mind.


carparkno1

Original Poster:

1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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GreatGranny said:
Buy this, but be quick, he's trading it in tomorrow :-)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
Yummy amount of power and rwd for sure.

essIII

363 posts

145 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Hudson said:
The R32 is another 50bhp over the GTi (according to wikipedia) and they sound awesome. Very thirsty mind.
Yeah, but if you look at the additional weight of the R32, plus the AWD drivetrain losses then the power/weight is pretty much identical.

carparkno1

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1,432 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Think the r32 may be a wee bit out of budget for a decent one.

Rammy76

1,050 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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carparkno1 said:
Think the r32 may be a wee bit out of budget for a decent one.
This DSG one with 63000 miles is up for £7990, so they can be had for decent money.


pad58

12,545 posts

182 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Ed 30? the only Mk5 I would have.