Greatest all weather point-to-point car?

Greatest all weather point-to-point car?

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ApexClipper

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25,076 posts

245 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Ok, I've read quite a few times now that the 996 TT is regarded as the most capable all weather point to point machine.

Thing is, if someone asked me what I thought was the best, I'd probably automatically say an EVO.

Discuss!

bluespanner

3,383 posts

225 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Now by point to point, you mean via road?
Otherwise, its the Bowler Wildcat!

Neezer

391 posts

230 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Clearly has to be the Toyota AYGO, if you have ever had the fortune to drive one you'll know what I mean!

>> Edited by Neezer on Monday 13th March 19:05

hugh_

3,554 posts

243 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Neezer said:
Clearly has to be the Toyota AYGO, if you have ever had the fortune to drive one you'll know what I mean!

>> Edited by Neezer on Monday 13th March 19:05


They bounce off other things? Top Gear showed that quite well

R988

7,495 posts

231 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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ApexClipper said:
Ok, I've read quite a few times now that the 996 TT is regarded as the most capable all weather point to point machine.

Thing is, if someone asked me what I thought was the best, I'd probably automatically say an EVO.

Discuss!


I think the Porsche is more accomplished all round car compared to the Evo.

Porsche can do the topspeed and luxury stuff better than an Evo and would be right up there with the Evo point to point.

If cost comes into it the Evo regains some points though

I'd throw in a few of the Audi uber sedans as well, they fit somewhere in between those two.

m1spw

5,999 posts

227 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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All weather? That'll be an Ariel Atom.

Nah, only joking, make it a Caterham. At least it has a roof and doors

bluespanner

3,383 posts

225 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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m1spw said:
All weather? That'll be an Ariel Atom.

Nah, only joking, make it a Caterham. At least it has a roof and doors


Have you actually been in a caterham in the wet?
Wipers make Landrover ones look awesome...

touchingcloth

11,706 posts

241 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Think I would be putting myself in an RS Audi of some sort, probably the new RS4. Opinion based solely on journo stuff as not had the chance to drive one myself.

trackdemon

12,206 posts

263 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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ApexClipper said:
Ok, I've read quite a few times now that the 996 TT is regarded as the most capable all weather point to point machine.

Thing is, if someone asked me what I thought was the best, I'd probably automatically say an EVO.

Discuss!


Autocar did a test last year (or perhaps the year before) to establish exactly this fact - 996tt X50 won (but only just) against a Noble M400. This was on a wet road, I imagine the Noble may be slightly quicker (than the 996tt) in the dry. They stated that both were comfortably quicker than an EVO.

m1spw

5,999 posts

227 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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bluespanner said:
Have you actually been in a caterham in the wet?
Wipers make Landrover ones look awesome...

Yes. I also found that if you go round a left hand corner through a puddle without the doors on, the passenger gets quite wet somehow. Still havn't worked that one out, but being sprayed with muddy water isn't much fun...

jacobyte

4,730 posts

244 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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There are many meanings to the word "greatest".

And we all know that the real answer is the Lancia Delta Integrale.

tomtom

4,225 posts

232 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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touchingcloth said:
Think I would be putting myself in an RS Audi of some sort, probably the new RS4. Opinion based solely on journo stuff as not had the chance to drive one myself.
I have driven an RS6 and it's very capable in the pouring rain.

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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GT2?

997 Turbo S (when it comes) would be my choice.

mikereynolds

1,208 posts

223 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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jacobyte said:
And we all know that the real answer is the Lancia Delta Integrale.


I will second that, although I might be slightly biased!!

DJC

23,563 posts

238 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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ApexClipper said:
Ok, I've read quite a few times now that the 996 TT is regarded as the most capable all weather point to point machine.

Thing is, if someone asked me what I thought was the best, I'd probably automatically say an EVO.

Discuss!


Not a patch, not even in the same league. Besides you have missed the point, the 996tt isnt the most capable all weather pt 2 pt machine, it is the best car in the world, bar nothing and the EVO is a long long way short of that kind of tag.

mikereynolds

1,208 posts

223 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Thing is the 996TT is the best point to point car in anyones hands!!

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

266 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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trackdemon said:
ApexClipper said:
Ok, I've read quite a few times now that the 996 TT is regarded as the most capable all weather point to point machine.

Thing is, if someone asked me what I thought was the best, I'd probably automatically say an EVO.

Discuss!


Autocar did a test last year (or perhaps the year before) to establish exactly this fact - 996tt X50 won (but only just) against a Noble M400. This was on a wet road, I imagine the Noble may be slightly quicker (than the 996tt) in the dry. They stated that both were comfortably quicker than an EVO.


So does this mean that the other weekend on a PH SW run, with Daz in his 996tt X50 and Paul in his Noble, and 'lil ol me chasing (and doing a good job of annoying both of them - catching through the corners too) in my 2.0l 16v GTi Golf, that my Golf is up there with the fastest cars in the world point to point?



awesome - can't wait to quote on THAT one!

>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Monday 13th March 19:56

dazren

22,612 posts

263 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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neil_cardiff said:

So does this mean that the other weekend on a PH SW run, with Daz in his 996tt X50 and Paul in his Noble, and 'lil ol me chasing (and doing a good job of annoying both of them - catching through the corners too) in my 2.0l 16v GTi Golf, that my Golf is up there with the fastest cars in the world point to point?



awesome - can't wait to quote on THAT one!

No it just means you are a nutter with feck all regards for safety.

I seem to remember temps were approx zero, so defensive driving was the order of the day for some of us.

DAZ

Neezer

391 posts

230 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Surely all the lumps and bumps will prevent the porker from getting the most out of some of our roads though..

Yeah, the AYGO does seem pretty well put together and is infact designed to take small bumps (less than 10mph) with minimum damage and also be cheap to repair! Also, they have really 'fun' handling and you can nail it everywhere and never go too fast.. 30 feels like 50! –I’m seriously thinking about getting one.

I would encourage you to test drive one, there are a few surprises in store...

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

266 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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dazren said:
neil_cardiff said:

So does this mean that the other weekend on a PH SW run, with Daz in his 996tt X50 and Paul in his Noble, and 'lil ol me chasing (and doing a good job of annoying both of them - catching through the corners too) in my 2.0l 16v GTi Golf, that my Golf is up there with the fastest cars in the world point to point?



awesome - can't wait to quote on THAT one!

No it just means you are a nutter with feck all regards for safety.

I seem to remember temps were approx zero, so defensive driving was the order of the day for some of us.

DAZ


I must agree, falling off in yours would smart rather more than mine...