Is RWD over hyped?

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thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

206 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Is it just me or do folk get way too excited about RWD.

Anything that is RWD and folk are getting excited and jumping around like kids. Apparently anything with RWD is a wonderful car.

People are even getting excited about volvo 340s the hideous volvo renault crossbreed which i have driven and found it to be wallowly bucket.



This is the wonderful ssangyong odious its RWD is this really better then any FWD car?

Would people rather drive this then a Lotus Elan?

DaGuv

446 posts

208 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Popcorn ready...this should be good!!!

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

185 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Is this going to degrade into an understeer vs oversteer thread? rolleyes

havoc

30,267 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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DaGuv said:
Popcorn ready...this should be good!!!
hehe

PH over-repeated threads #3 - rwd or not! wink


On PH - yes it is. rwd is excellent from a 'purist' perspective, but ignores the fact that a good fwd or 4wd car is better and more involving than a mediocre rwd car (and usually cheaper, like-for-like, too!).

j80jpw

827 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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OP great question, can see a 20 pager coming up!

Its a matter of preference I think, I personally much prefer a RWD, especially in a more powerful car as in my opinion theres no worse feeling than understeer when you get on the power too early!

J



Edited by j80jpw on Saturday 1st January 21:39

thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

206 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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j80jpw said:
OP great question, can see a 20 pager coming up!

Its a matter of preference I think, I personally much prefer a RWD, especially in a more powerful car as in my opinion theres no worse feeling than understeer when you get on the power too early!

J

So you would prefer the odious then

j80jpw

827 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
j80jpw said:
OP great question, can see a 20 pager coming up!

Its a matter of preference I think, I personally much prefer a RWD, especially in a more powerful car as in my opinion theres no worse feeling than understeer when you get on the power too early!

J

So you would prefer the odious then
Ha ha!! I didn't say that did I. I do agree with what your saying there though, a car like that doesn't need to be rear wheel drive.

J

NISaxoVTR

268 posts

171 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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RWD without a real LSD are over hyped. Nothing exciting about a boggo 3 series performing a one wheel peel when it attempts to 'get the back out'.

y2blade

56,160 posts

217 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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here we go again rolleyes

thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

206 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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j80jpw said:
thinfourth2 said:
j80jpw said:
OP great question, can see a 20 pager coming up!

Its a matter of preference I think, I personally much prefer a RWD, especially in a more powerful car as in my opinion theres no worse feeling than understeer when you get on the power too early!

J

So you would prefer the odious then
Ha ha!! I didn't say that did I. I do agree with what your saying there though, a car like that doesn't need to be rear wheel drive.

J
But its is RWD so it must be absolutely awesome to drive. Surely that kind of car being RWD must be so much better

j80jpw

827 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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To be honest, (sorry if i'm offending anyone who has bought one of the god awful looking things)

Im sure its absolutely awful to drive whether it was RWD, FWD or 4WD. It would be interesting to know why they decided to make it RWD, surely the cost of production is also higher than FWD?

J

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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It's most likely on a light van floorpan.

AnotherClarkey

3,608 posts

191 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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j80jpw said:
To be honest, (sorry if i'm offending anyone who has bought one of the god awful looking things)

Im sure its absolutely awful to drive whether it was RWD, FWD or 4WD. It would be interesting to know why they decided to make it RWD, surely the cost of production is also higher than FWD?

J
They obviously made it RWD to attract 'disciple of Clarkson' enthusiast drivers. Innit.

Hell27

1,564 posts

193 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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For the vast majority of cars, FWD is better. Forgiving handling, more space inside, and allows for platform sharing easily.
RWD works better with more power. For me there was a great thread a while ago along the lines of what would you rather have - a BMW 116i or a 1.6i Focus (pretty sure the 116 is a 2.0 by the way).
For an ordinary car, the focus offered more space and luggage capability. Focuses handle brilliantly too, so for a car, are hard to beat.

I know that for the power of my 530d, FWD would not be as involving or exciting. Plus RWD allows you to do more intetresting things, like power oversteer.

But for 95% of people, FWD is absolutely the choice due to day-day needs.

4wd or AWD, now that's a whole new can of worms..................

fridaypassion

8,690 posts

230 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.

RWD should be an aspiration for all enthusiastic drivers but these days people are more bothered about interior trim plastics and pub ammo BHP figures/ring lap times which the FWD manufacturers technology can now satisfy.

So the issues for RWD are:

FWD cars are on paper at least too good.

The number of decent affordable RWD performance cars is far too low.

AnotherClarkey

3,608 posts

191 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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fridaypassion said:
RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.

RWD should be an aspiration for all enthusiastic drivers but these days people are more bothered about interior trim plastics and pub ammo BHP figures/ring lap times which the FWD manufacturers technology can now satisfy.

So the issues for RWD are:

FWD cars are on paper at least too good.

The number of decent affordable RWD performance cars is far too low.
Why should I aspire to RWD when I prefer FWD?

Edited by AnotherClarkey on Saturday 1st January 22:01

thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

206 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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fridaypassion said:
RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.
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Yet another customer for the odious

Damn popular car the odious

havoc

30,267 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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fridaypassion said:
RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.
Clio 182 Cup vs Clio V6 255?

Honda Integra Type R (DC2) vs S2000?

Escort Mk2 vs Mk3?

Volvo 340 vs 850 T5?

BMW 1-series vs Mini Cooper / Cooper-S?


Shall I continue?!?

fridaypassion

8,690 posts

230 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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havoc said:
fridaypassion said:
RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.
Clio 182 Cup vs Clio V6 255?

Honda Integra Type R (DC2) vs S2000?

Escort Mk2 vs Mk3?

Volvo 340 vs 850 T5?

BMW 1-series vs Mini Cooper / Cooper-S?


Shall I continue?!?
No I think you have backed my point up well there. Perfectly in fact.

Patrick Bateman

12,220 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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havoc said:
fridaypassion said:
RWD is better than FWD this is a fact.
Clio 182 Cup vs Clio V6 255?

Honda Integra Type R (DC2) vs S2000?

Escort Mk2 vs Mk3?

Volvo 340 vs 850 T5?

BMW 1-series vs Mini Cooper / Cooper-S?


Shall I continue?!?
What's your point with them?

Can't speak for the Escorts or the Volvos but all the others, regardless of drive, are considered good.