RE: SOTW: Lada Niva Cossack

[sootyrumble]

thewheelman said:

Don't get me wrong the LR has its flaws, personally if i was after a tough 4x4, i'd probably go for an old Land Cruiser. My only experiences with the Defender & a Niva, were from off roading on private land many years ago. The Niva was a pig compared to the LR, it just didn't feel as good, & lacked torque for steep climbs. Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

This is the Uni Mog :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimog all other 4x4's are in a different league, i agree about the low torque but the reduced weight also helped alot with that and with careful throttle usage and low ratio's it went pretty well everywhere :-D

[omgus]

thewheelman said:

Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

Sorry, if you are talking about your great off-road knowledge and you don't know what a Unimog is then i feel your arguement becomes pretty much invalid.

Next you'll be saying that Suzuki Jimnys are crap offraod as well.

[y2blade]

thewheelman said:

sootyrumble said:

thewheelman said:

300bhp/ton said:

thewheelman said:

No, there was nothing wrong mechanically with it, & the driver knew what he was doing. The Lada was/is just the inferior car.

ok, if that's your view. But could you explain to me how the drive train differed and why it was less affective on a flat grass field?

Not my view, it's a fact. There were no mechanical faults, it was just unable to get places that the old defender would ease through. Land Rover have been making some of the worlds best off roaders for years, maybe compare the Niva to the Fiat Panda 4x4, it's in the same league, but both inferior to a Land Rover Defender. Argue all you like, but take a look how many countries use the Defender, & Land Cruisers, then see how many use the Lada. Just because you like them, doesn't mean they're great at what they do.

I think your being a bit LR are the best no matter what, the Niva is a fantastic 4x4 my dad had one at the same time as an LR (LR for hauling heavy loads) but the Niva aced it of road due to being so much lighter. How long you have been making something has little to do with their abilities next you will say the Bowler Wildcat is crap because its only been built for a couple of years (I know its based very very loosely on a Range Rover).
Out of them all i would love a Uni Mog :-D

Don't get me wrong the LR has its flaws, personally if i was after a tough 4x4, i'd probably go for an old Land Cruiser. My only experiences with the Defender & a Niva, were from off roading on private land many years ago. The Niva was a pig compared to the LR, it just didn't feel as good, & lacked torque for steep climbs. Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

you really don't know?

for a self-proclaimed off-road expert I find that statement to be very telling about exactly what you know vs what you claim to know.

I openly admit that I know f'all about 4x4 off-roading.....other than watching 4x4s having fun on Salisbury Pain while out on my old Trail bike...as per my first reply on this thread.

But even I know what a Unimog is..... are you 12 years old?




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omgus said:

thewheelman said:

Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

Sorry, if you are talking about your great off-road knowledge and you don't know what a Unimog is then i feel your arguement becomes pretty much invalid.

Next you'll be saying that Suzuki Jimnys are crap offraod as well.

exactly Gus..he's a troll

[thewheelman]

y2blade said:

thewheelman said:

sootyrumble said:

thewheelman said:

300bhp/ton said:

thewheelman said:

No, there was nothing wrong mechanically with it, & the driver knew what he was doing. The Lada was/is just the inferior car.

ok, if that's your view. But could you explain to me how the drive train differed and why it was less affective on a flat grass field?

Not my view, it's a fact. There were no mechanical faults, it was just unable to get places that the old defender would ease through. Land Rover have been making some of the worlds best off roaders for years, maybe compare the Niva to the Fiat Panda 4x4, it's in the same league, but both inferior to a Land Rover Defender. Argue all you like, but take a look how many countries use the Defender, & Land Cruisers, then see how many use the Lada. Just because you like them, doesn't mean they're great at what they do.

I think your being a bit LR are the best no matter what, the Niva is a fantastic 4x4 my dad had one at the same time as an LR (LR for hauling heavy loads) but the Niva aced it of road due to being so much lighter. How long you have been making something has little to do with their abilities next you will say the Bowler Wildcat is crap because its only been built for a couple of years (I know its based very very loosely on a Range Rover).
Out of them all i would love a Uni Mog :-D

Don't get me wrong the LR has its flaws, personally if i was after a tough 4x4, i'd probably go for an old Land Cruiser. My only experiences with the Defender & a Niva, were from off roading on private land many years ago. The Niva was a pig compared to the LR, it just didn't feel as good, & lacked torque for steep climbs. Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

you really don't know?

for a self-proclaimed off-road expert I find that statement to be very telling about exactly what you know vs what you claim to know.

I openly admit that I know f'all about 4x4 off-roading.....other than watching 4x4s having fun on Salisbury Pain while out on my old Trail bike...as per my first reply on this thread.

But even I know what a Unimog is..... are you 12 years old?

You really are a sad childish troll. Now you admit you know bugger all about offroading, yet defended the Niva. So because i;ve never heard of a Unimog that means a lot about what i know? You idiot! And where exactly did i claim to know loads about off roading exactly? My mates parents had a farm with lots of land, so we used the land for off roading.

Seriously, grow the fk up!

[rojs121]

A mate of mine used to race one of those with the AWDC. He put a 2ltr twin cam fiat engine in it!

[thewheelman]

omgus said:

thewheelman said:

Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

Sorry, if you are talking about your great off-road knowledge and you don't know what a Unimog is then i feel your arguement becomes pretty much invalid.

Next you'll be saying that Suzuki Jimnys are crap offraod as well.

Where did i say i had great off roading knowledge? And because i didn't know what a Unimog was that means exactly fk all. You need to get a life. Oh, & don't make me laugh about the Suzuki.......the car well known to fall over on corners.

fk me! Is it troll day here?

[thewheelman]

y2blade said:

thewheelman said:

sootyrumble said:

thewheelman said:

300bhp/ton said:

thewheelman said:

No, there was nothing wrong mechanically with it, & the driver knew what he was doing. The Lada was/is just the inferior car.

ok, if that's your view. But could you explain to me how the drive train differed and why it was less affective on a flat grass field?

Not my view, it's a fact. There were no mechanical faults, it was just unable to get places that the old defender would ease through. Land Rover have been making some of the worlds best off roaders for years, maybe compare the Niva to the Fiat Panda 4x4, it's in the same league, but both inferior to a Land Rover Defender. Argue all you like, but take a look how many countries use the Defender, & Land Cruisers, then see how many use the Lada. Just because you like them, doesn't mean they're great at what they do.

I think your being a bit LR are the best no matter what, the Niva is a fantastic 4x4 my dad had one at the same time as an LR (LR for hauling heavy loads) but the Niva aced it of road due to being so much lighter. How long you have been making something has little to do with their abilities next you will say the Bowler Wildcat is crap because its only been built for a couple of years (I know its based very very loosely on a Range Rover).
Out of them all i would love a Uni Mog :-D

Don't get me wrong the LR has its flaws, personally if i was after a tough 4x4, i'd probably go for an old Land Cruiser. My only experiences with the Defender & a Niva, were from off roading on private land many years ago. The Niva was a pig compared to the LR, it just didn't feel as good, & lacked torque for steep climbs. Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

you really don't know?

for a self-proclaimed off-road expert I find that statement to be very telling about exactly what you know vs what you claim to know.

I openly admit that I know f'all about 4x4 off-roading.....other than watching 4x4s having fun on Salisbury Pain while out on my old Trail bike...as per my first reply on this thread.

But even I know what a Unimog is..... are you 12 years old?




EDIT:

omgus said:

thewheelman said:

Now i'm off to see what the hell a Uni Mog is......

Sorry, if you are talking about your great off-road knowledge and you don't know what a Unimog is then i feel your arguement becomes pretty much invalid.

Next you'll be saying that Suzuki Jimnys are crap offraod as well.

exactly Gus..he's a troll

Ahh, look at the keyboard warriors! You need to get jobs, all those posts about subject you know nothing about. You both define what a troll is. Pair of idiots.

[Lefty]

ZOLLAR said:

phildee76 said:

I spotted this one in Kazakhstan a few years back. The Niva went up in my estimation after seeing this.

Sweet jesus that is epic lurking!, cracking picture by the way.

[Shaw Tarse]

thewheelman said:

fk me! Is it troll day here?

[y2blade]

Keyboard warrior? hardly

I have not been offensive or used foul or threatening language once on this thread.
have a nice weekend

[RemainAllHoof]

Colonial said:

Massive respect for these.

Real, no bull off roaders.

Aye. I quite like them. If I needed a 4x4, it'd be this or a Defender.

[Garlick]

thewheelman said:

fk me! Is it troll day here?

Certainly looks like it. Can you calm down please? If not we'll have to look to start restricting access.

[Bosshogg76]

Shaw Tarse said:

I have to agree, chinny reckon. I think the Suzuki comment sealed it.

[thewheelman]

y2blade said:

Keyboard warrior? hardly

I have not been offensive or used foul or threatening language once on this thread.
have a nice weekend

Hmmm, argumentative about a subject you admit you know nothing about, & name calling? Sounds like a troll to me. Enjoy your Volvo & Golf....

[XJSsometimeSoon]

Shaw Tarse said:

Are the teachers on strike???

[thewheelman]

Garlick said:

thewheelman said:

fk me! Is it troll day here?

Certainly looks like it. Can you calm down please? If not we'll have to look to start restricting access.

Errm, maybe take a look at the people that started it, that have no experience as they admit, about the car in question. Not the first time i've seen the same people trolling.

[thewheelman]

XJSsometimeSoon said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Are the teachers on strike???

Is that why you lot aren't in school? That would explain it.

[slinky]

Garlick said:

Certainly looks like it. Can you calm down please? If not we'll have to look to start restricting access.

Just in case anyone missed this...

[Shaw Tarse]

thewheelman said:

XJSsometimeSoon said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Are the teachers on strike???

Is that why you lot aren't in school? That would explain it.

We're all entitled to an opinion, please respect those expressed by others!

[thewheelman]

Shaw Tarse said:

thewheelman said:

XJSsometimeSoon said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Are the teachers on strike???

Is that why you lot aren't in school? That would explain it.

We're all entitled to an opinion, please respect those expressed by others!

Hahahahaha, yet my opinion isn't respected. You crack me up. How deluded are you? Look back through, think you'll find it was people starting on me. And to really make me laugh, the people disagreeing with me, have never drive one. How ignorant are some of you?