RE: SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI-6
Discussion
Great choice for SOTW. I love these. My brother had a brilliant DTurbo Phase 1, and my mrs just got rid of a 130,000 mile 1.6, but even that was a fun thing to slide around corners in.
I'd love a GTi-6, might try and find a decent one for our next car. A nicely looked after Gti-6 shouldn't lose you too much money when you come to sell it on, and I would say that a clean and tidy £2k Rallye might sell for a reasonable profit in a few years time (thats assuming you can get a decent one for £2k, I haven't looked in a while.
I'd love a GTi-6, might try and find a decent one for our next car. A nicely looked after Gti-6 shouldn't lose you too much money when you come to sell it on, and I would say that a clean and tidy £2k Rallye might sell for a reasonable profit in a few years time (thats assuming you can get a decent one for £2k, I haven't looked in a while.
no experience of these cars myself but whenever i hear of a 306gti i think of this video. absolutely love it!
ring taxi versus 306
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0&fea...
ring taxi versus 306
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0&fea...
tomoleeds said:
They might have 170 bhp and a six speed box but its not worth buying for that reason, Its very ugly, new peugeots hardly have decent build quality let alone a old one. so what it handles well, a golf or focus dosan"t ?.
up until a few years ago you could have sat a phase 2 beside anything new and it wouldnt look out of place. All the proportions are correct and the swooping bum really suits the car.
Ran an exact copy of SOTW for two years - Nile Blue Phase 2, dodgy-patterned seats, but on an R-plate. Fanbloodytastic!
Two things let it down:
1) Fuel costs - Jesus, that thing drank petrol
2) Head Gasket - luckily I managed to move the car on before it went banzai on me, but was still going strong despite the coolant consumption
Oh, and not forgetting the classic failed air-con system. Apart from that, had an amazing time in that thing and took it to the outer reaches of Scotland on a number of occasions for some great B-road action.
If you like to tinker, I'd wholeheartedly recommend one as you'll have to do a fair bit to keep the old girl running! Well worth it, though.
Two things let it down:
1) Fuel costs - Jesus, that thing drank petrol
2) Head Gasket - luckily I managed to move the car on before it went banzai on me, but was still going strong despite the coolant consumption
Oh, and not forgetting the classic failed air-con system. Apart from that, had an amazing time in that thing and took it to the outer reaches of Scotland on a number of occasions for some great B-road action.
If you like to tinker, I'd wholeheartedly recommend one as you'll have to do a fair bit to keep the old girl running! Well worth it, though.
TheRacingSnake said:
French cars and electrics. That is all.
Throw us another largely unfounded cliche please - we're tired of this one...Last time we had a Peugeot here, people battered on about rust when Peugeots of this era and earlier are some of the most rust-free cars you'll encounter.
I see several 205/306s still in regular use - one of those 205s is a G plate (that's 21 years old) base model! - if it's electrics were such a mess, how come it's survived most other cars of it's era then?
Actually tho, keep your unfounded opinions coming - more nice, tidy old sheds for the rest of us!
CampDavid said:
No where near the same level, though not as bad as some think.
206s are more fragile (a trend in all Peugeots, sadly) and they have a driving position from hell.The 306 isn't brilliant for the long-of-leg (the wheel doesn't move enough) but the 206 is positively painful thanks to a weirdly set (high) seat.
johnpeat said:
TheRacingSnake said:
French cars and electrics. That is all.
Throw us another largely unfounded cliche please - we're tired of this one...Last time we had a Peugeot here, people battered on about rust when Peugeots of this era and earlier are some of the most rust-free cars you'll encounter.
I see several 205/306s still in regular use - one of those 205s is a G plate (that's 21 years old) base model! - if it's electrics were such a mess, how come it's survived most other cars of it's era then?
Actually tho, keep your unfounded opinions coming - more nice, tidy old sheds for the rest of us!
Cambelts go and the rear beam will need rebuilding on occasions but otherwise they're tough old Hectors.
Went on a track day, my car was a real belter, but the local lads all had 306 GTi6 or VW Corrados; all stripped out, up rated bushes and suspension and that's it.
Never managed to get past one of the bistards, not through their outright grunt (I had at least 100bhp more) but handling, lightness on their feet (er, wheels) and ability to carry speed into and out of bends.
I'd love one, to turn I to a simple, cheap yet effective track tool.
Never managed to get past one of the bistards, not through their outright grunt (I had at least 100bhp more) but handling, lightness on their feet (er, wheels) and ability to carry speed into and out of bends.
I'd love one, to turn I to a simple, cheap yet effective track tool.
It's uncanny that in two consecutive weeks, cars my mate had featured in shed. I'm just trying to work out what he had next.........
There was a golf VR6 and a clio 172, not sure either of those have reached shed potential just yet. And then it shot up to a lotus elise while I was tooling about in an evo 2, neither of which I would expect to be going for shed money just yet......?
There was a golf VR6 and a clio 172, not sure either of those have reached shed potential just yet. And then it shot up to a lotus elise while I was tooling about in an evo 2, neither of which I would expect to be going for shed money just yet......?
irf said:
no experience of these cars myself but whenever i hear of a 306gti i think of this video. absolutely love it!
ring taxi versus 306
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0&fea...
That was a close moment, good driving.ring taxi versus 306
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0&fea...
A friend had a couple of them as British Gas company cars (a blue one and a gold one) and on a walking holiday in the lake district he threw me the keys early in the morning...
I vividly remember frightening the life out of myself and my passenger by "flying" it over a little hump back bridge somewhere in the North Lake district. Very buzzy and a lot of fun. He never really forgave me
I vividly remember frightening the life out of myself and my passenger by "flying" it over a little hump back bridge somewhere in the North Lake district. Very buzzy and a lot of fun. He never really forgave me
Christ is that all they're worth??? 
I bought a "Blaze Yellow" T plater (which my girlfriend refered to as "P1key Gold") when it was 6 months old with 10k on the clock. To be fair the build quality wasn't up there with VW or Audi, but I was n't expecting that and had no real problems with it and considering I added another 37k to the mileage in the 3 years I owned it. I'd say on the whole it was very reliable. The only issue I had was with the alarm which constantly went off and woke up the neighbours.
It was great fun to hurl down back roads and handled really well. I had one scary lift-off oversteer incident at the top of the M32 in Bristol where it got quite out of shape on the Hambrook roundabout, but I managed to collect it up OK and continue it the direction I was going!
I must say though one of my friends had a Clio 182 at the time and when he lent it me for the weekend, I remember I was gobsmacked at how much better it was than the 306.
I bought a "Blaze Yellow" T plater (which my girlfriend refered to as "P1key Gold") when it was 6 months old with 10k on the clock. To be fair the build quality wasn't up there with VW or Audi, but I was n't expecting that and had no real problems with it and considering I added another 37k to the mileage in the 3 years I owned it. I'd say on the whole it was very reliable. The only issue I had was with the alarm which constantly went off and woke up the neighbours.
It was great fun to hurl down back roads and handled really well. I had one scary lift-off oversteer incident at the top of the M32 in Bristol where it got quite out of shape on the Hambrook roundabout, but I managed to collect it up OK and continue it the direction I was going!
I must say though one of my friends had a Clio 182 at the time and when he lent it me for the weekend, I remember I was gobsmacked at how much better it was than the 306.
johnpeat said:
TheRacingSnake said:
French cars and electrics. That is all.
Throw us another largely unfounded cliche please - we're tired of this one...Last time we had a Peugeot here, people battered on about rust when Peugeots of this era and earlier are some of the most rust-free cars you'll encounter.
I see several 205/306s still in regular use - one of those 205s is a G plate (that's 21 years old) base model! - if it's electrics were such a mess, how come it's survived most other cars of it's era then?
Actually tho, keep your unfounded opinions coming - more nice, tidy old sheds for the rest of us!
Third one is presently off the road having the head gasket replaced but before that had a dash like a christmas tree.
2 of my other friends have both had pugs with huge electrical problems.
My views are not unfounded but are based upon my personal experience of most of the ones I have known having electrical problems.
Don't even get me started about Citroens...........(also personal experience)
Eh, the electrical maladies of post-2000 Pugs are well known about, but this is one from an era when proper cars were still built. Mid'90s cars rock - they had corrosion resistance and the oily stuff pretty much nailed then, but not yet started the drive towards too-clever-for-their-own good electronics and endless cost cutting so they could afford to load their cars full with 'kit'.
I have one..
'98 Nile Blue GTi-6. I have no reason to get rid of it. As others have mentioned for a 12 year old car it can hold its on everywhere. It will comfortably sit at 77 on M-ways without either screaming/trying to pull you quicker. Its an absolute hoon down country roads. Even around central London its not bad.
Turning circle takes some getting used to. Its due to the gearbox sticking into the nearside wheel arch. Turning right is comedy. Clutch/Steering can be heavy in comparison to "girlie" cars. Yes the cambelt needs doing every 30-40k but a competent mechanic can do it. Usually comes in around £300. Electrics really aren't as bad as people think. Air con will definately not work, this is due to the pipes running along under the rad.
Avoid the "mustang" interior and get a leather/alcantara. Inside is nowhere near as dated as other machines of the era.
As has been mentioned if anyone wants history/help/clean motors they would be well advised to wander over to www.306gti6.com and have a look.
'98 Nile Blue GTi-6. I have no reason to get rid of it. As others have mentioned for a 12 year old car it can hold its on everywhere. It will comfortably sit at 77 on M-ways without either screaming/trying to pull you quicker. Its an absolute hoon down country roads. Even around central London its not bad.
Turning circle takes some getting used to. Its due to the gearbox sticking into the nearside wheel arch. Turning right is comedy. Clutch/Steering can be heavy in comparison to "girlie" cars. Yes the cambelt needs doing every 30-40k but a competent mechanic can do it. Usually comes in around £300. Electrics really aren't as bad as people think. Air con will definately not work, this is due to the pipes running along under the rad.
Avoid the "mustang" interior and get a leather/alcantara. Inside is nowhere near as dated as other machines of the era.
As has been mentioned if anyone wants history/help/clean motors they would be well advised to wander over to www.306gti6.com and have a look.
ch3tman said:
@ at the editor: the article needs to be corrected, the engine produced 167bhp, not 169bph as printed.
Here is mine, which I sold in 2009:
Fantastic cars
, still miss it - the handling was spot on 
That is just spot on, perfect in white! Cheers for pics
TORQ said:
Good shed.
Remember driving the Rallye Version of this back in the day when it came out, it made my MK2 8V Golf feel slow and a dated, it was really really bloody good to chuck about, but I still couldn't part with the Golf. Was always worried these wouldn't hold together long-term.
Indeed the Rallye version [same XU10J4RS engine/ BE3 gearbox as the GTi-6, but lighter, no leather, no air-con, no electric windows, no sunroof, etc.] was the one to have. Limited run of 500 produced in red/white/black only.Remember driving the Rallye Version of this back in the day when it came out, it made my MK2 8V Golf feel slow and a dated, it was really really bloody good to chuck about, but I still couldn't part with the Golf. Was always worried these wouldn't hold together long-term.
Here is mine, which I sold in 2009:
Fantastic cars
, still miss it - the handling was spot on That is just spot on, perfect in white! Cheers for pics
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