RE: Driven: Audi RS4
Discussion
Kong said:
Got to love pistonheads. When the latest M5 came out with it's grunty twin turbo V8 everyone bemoans the passing of the old revvy N/A engine. So Audi provides a revvy N/A engine in the RS4 and everyone complains it needs to be revved! It's no worder the manufacturers never listen to 'us' 
it's pathetic, ain't it.Why can't Audi just go back to turbo's. It suits a heavy 4WD car and makes the performance more acessible. They kept to that formula for a long time. Funning how things have chnaged, with BMW M now being turbo.
Let's hope the next RS6 is good (TT V8?), needs to be ligher than the outgoing v10. The original V8 version wasn't the sharpest tool in the box, but it was a lovely effortless thing to drive everyday.
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You don`t think these things are discussed by the big German three do you? Of course they are, AMG`s have gone hard, M`s have gone soft, AMG`s have gone NA, Supercharged, NA and now turbo whilst Audi have gone NA, turbo, supercharged, NA. BMW M have gone hard NA to soft turbo and actually if you look all three car ranges have a distinct difference that goes beyond their relative DNAs at any time in the last 10 years. And guess what....it`s all about bottom line.
Let's hope the next RS6 is good (TT V8?), needs to be ligher than the outgoing v10. The original V8 version wasn't the sharpest tool in the box, but it was a lovely effortless thing to drive everyday.
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You don`t think these things are discussed by the big German three do you? Of course they are, AMG`s have gone hard, M`s have gone soft, AMG`s have gone NA, Supercharged, NA and now turbo whilst Audi have gone NA, turbo, supercharged, NA. BMW M have gone hard NA to soft turbo and actually if you look all three car ranges have a distinct difference that goes beyond their relative DNAs at any time in the last 10 years. And guess what....it`s all about bottom line.
E38Ross said:
Kong said:
Got to love pistonheads. When the latest M5 came out with it's grunty twin turbo V8 everyone bemoans the passing of the old revvy N/A engine. So Audi provides a revvy N/A engine in the RS4 and everyone complains it needs to be revved! It's no worder the manufacturers never listen to 'us'
it's pathetic, ain't it.except monkey commented on this vid that all 3 cars understeered, but that gets ignored unless its an audi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSaN8FS-GV8
RJC63 said:
Having never owned or driven the B7 I cant comment on the car. I did however have an 2010 M3 Saloon for 1 year and since last November a C63 Saloon (facelift) both of which are fantastic cars, the lack of 4wd when getting to work at 6am regardless of conditions is key for me. My wife had an early S3 Sportback and the B8 S4 Avant, both of which were called upon in the bad weather, the M3 was 6 days old and it did not then move for 6 weeks in November 2010 (moral of story is don't buy new cars at start of winter). There is a quality RS4 on Pistonheads with 12900 miles keeps calling every time I see the ad (not the owner just my wanting to buy one)
I couldn't recommend the RS4 enough for a car for all occasions. Mine didn't miss a beat this winter - awesome in all conditions. I just had to keep remembering that whilst the quattro could happily get me off to a flying start on icy roads - you've still got to slow that a large mass down at some point!Edited by RJC63 on Thursday 14th June 11:05
Would certainly agree about the B7 feeling right straight out of the box. You only have two settings - normal and sport and that fits in nicely with most people (me included) who want to take it easy or have some fun. I figure that most people driving the new RS4 will drive it in normal or their 'sport setting' and not fiddle about with the settings too much (unless they get bored in a traffic jam).... There are buttons on my car which I don't know what they do and I suspect I never will!
Love the DRL of the new car - so much better than the old christmas tree light LEDs of the non-facelifted A4....
DutchSi said:
I couldn't recommend the RS4 enough for a car for all occasions. Mine didn't miss a beat this winter - awesome in all conditions. I just had to keep remembering that whilst the quattro could happily get me off to a flying start on icy roads - you've still got to slow that a large mass down at some point!
Would certainly agree about the B7 feeling right straight out of the box. You only have two settings - normal and sport and that fits in nicely with most people (me included) who want to take it easy or have some fun. I figure that most people driving the new RS4 will drive it in normal or their 'sport setting' and not fiddle about with the settings too much (unless they get bored in a traffic jam).... There are buttons on my car which I don't know what they do and I suspect I never will!
Love the DRL of the new car - so much better than the old christmas tree light LEDs of the non-facelifted A4....
what tyres are you running? my mate said his B7 RS4 was absolutely useless in the snowWould certainly agree about the B7 feeling right straight out of the box. You only have two settings - normal and sport and that fits in nicely with most people (me included) who want to take it easy or have some fun. I figure that most people driving the new RS4 will drive it in normal or their 'sport setting' and not fiddle about with the settings too much (unless they get bored in a traffic jam).... There are buttons on my car which I don't know what they do and I suspect I never will!
Love the DRL of the new car - so much better than the old christmas tree light LEDs of the non-facelifted A4....
flatline84 said:
B.J.W said:
The B7 RS4 Point to point, I still maintain that it was more than a match for all but the best pedalled GTR
Im sure it felt that way, but by the first corner you would not have seen where the GTR went. Not only leagues, but continents apart in terms of outright pace. B7 RS4 is still a lovely car though.E38Ross said:
what tyres are you running? my mate said his B7 RS4 was absolutely useless in the snow
Sport Conti 3s (so a summer tyre) - set off in 2nd gear - good clutch control and away you go! But I bet if you put winder tyres on the M3 or Merc then snow wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. Us Brits seem pretty reluctant to invest in a second set of tyres for winter, but that's what they (have) to do in Germany and its seems to keep the roads running okay over there.DutchSi said:
E38Ross said:
what tyres are you running? my mate said his B7 RS4 was absolutely useless in the snow
Sport Conti 3s (so a summer tyre) - set off in 2nd gear - good clutch control and away you go! But I bet if you put winder tyres on the M3 or Merc then snow wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. Us Brits seem pretty reluctant to invest in a second set of tyres for winter, but that's what they (have) to do in Germany and its seems to keep the roads running okay over there.
people say "but it's rubbish in the snow" to various cars like the M3, C63 etc but i'd rather have another set of tyres and the car i enjoy to drive the most, rather than one that's betterthan the others a couple of days per year.
they're all great in their own way. old man done 50k miles in the E92 M3 over 3.5 years and he's not spun out of control into a hedge and killed himself yet despite what most on here would seem to suggest!
cheers.
E38Ross said:
DutchSi said:
E38Ross said:
what tyres are you running? my mate said his B7 RS4 was absolutely useless in the snow
Sport Conti 3s (so a summer tyre) - set off in 2nd gear - good clutch control and away you go! But I bet if you put winder tyres on the M3 or Merc then snow wouldn't be too much of a problem for them. Us Brits seem pretty reluctant to invest in a second set of tyres for winter, but that's what they (have) to do in Germany and its seems to keep the roads running okay over there.people say "but it's rubbish in the snow" to various cars like the M3, C63 etc but i'd rather have another set of tyres and the car i enjoy to drive the most, rather than one that's betterthan the others a couple of days per year.
they're all great in their own way. old man done 50k miles in the E92 M3 over 3.5 years and he's not spun out of control into a hedge and killed himself yet despite what most on here would seem to suggest!
cheers.
Dagnut said:
So what is Harris on about?
"It's not a drift king, but this car doesn't feel front-driven - and that's the biggest advantage it holds over the B7 RS4."
I dont think this has been clarified yet ?? The B7 puts 60% to the rear, so what does the B8 do differently to justify this comment? Chris ??"It's not a drift king, but this car doesn't feel front-driven - and that's the biggest advantage it holds over the B7 RS4."
Scuffers said:
and invalidates your warrentee faster than a speeding bullet!
Knowing the problem with carbon choking and the real bhp of the v8 I bet the s4 in standard guise isn't that far behind in bhp and 0-60 times and 20k cheaper.Depends what your motives are.
Edited by billybob69 on Thursday 14th June 19:43
billybob69 said:
Scuffers said:
and invalidates your warrentee faster than a speeding bullet!
Knowing the problem with carbon chocking and the real bhp of the v8 I bet the s4 in standard guise isn't that far behind in bhp and 0-60 times and 20k cheaper.Depends what your motives are.
the only downside to the V6 is it runs out of puff as you go up the rev range where the V8 is really starting to breath
E38Ross said:
ah, mate is running Pzero's IIRC and said that if it's snowing he'll take their 3rd car which is a small 3 cylinder FWD hatch back
people say "but it's rubbish in the snow" to various cars like the M3, C63 etc but i'd rather have another set of tyres and the car i enjoy to drive the most, rather than one that's betterthan the others a couple of days per year.
they're all great in their own way. old man done 50k miles in the E92 M3 over 3.5 years and he's not spun out of control into a hedge and killed himself yet despite what most on here would seem to suggest!
cheers.
Pzero rossos are speople say "but it's rubbish in the snow" to various cars like the M3, C63 etc but i'd rather have another set of tyres and the car i enjoy to drive the most, rather than one that's betterthan the others a couple of days per year.
they're all great in their own way. old man done 50k miles in the E92 M3 over 3.5 years and he's not spun out of control into a hedge and killed himself yet despite what most on here would seem to suggest!
cheers.
te, ste tyres. My rs4 is on conti sp3's, never missed a beat. My other car arrived on rossos, it's lethal in the cold, never mind snow...billybob69 said:
I bet the s4 in standard guise isn't that far behind in bhp and 0-60 times and 20k cheaper.
I reckon in the real-world, at legal speeds, using more of the low-down torque, the S4 would be a match for the B7 RS4. Reckon I'll be looking out for one of these when they've done a bit more depreciating:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3979126.htm
bungle said:
I reckon in the real-world, at legal speeds, using more of the low-down torque, the S4 would be a match for the B7 RS4.
Reckon I'll be looking out for one of these when they've done a bit more depreciating:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3979126.htm
as stated before I have used MTM for 3k more you get 430 bhp sounds good to me.... Reckon I'll be looking out for one of these when they've done a bit more depreciating:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3979126.htm
bungle said:
billybob69 said:
I bet the s4 in standard guise isn't that far behind in bhp and 0-60 times and 20k cheaper.
I reckon in the real-world, at legal speeds, using more of the low-down torque, the S4 would be a match for the B7 RS4. Reckon I'll be looking out for one of these when they've done a bit more depreciating:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3979126.htm
It's a nice car the S4, but it still looks just like every reps 2.0 Sline for my liking.
As mentioned earlier, you can easily chip an S4 to a comparable power to an RS4, but hope you don't mind the bills when Audi reject the warranty claim. Parts for neither an RS4 or an S4 are cheap, and that warranty will be worth its weight in gold if things go wrong..
I forgot to mention sound too. RS4's Nascar sounding V8 doesn't get beaten by much. C63 is close, but S4 sounds mute in comparison
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