200,000 Mile club
Discussion
99t said:
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The Monaro has done nearly 217k now (though thankfully from a fuel perspective only the last 1k are mine), engine and box feel very fresh.
Saab has done about 221k although that did have the timing chain replaced and a top end refresh at about 180k. Currently rebuilding the front suspension.
Nice Greenhouse ... The Monaro has done nearly 217k now (though thankfully from a fuel perspective only the last 1k are mine), engine and box feel very fresh.
Saab has done about 221k although that did have the timing chain replaced and a top end refresh at about 180k. Currently rebuilding the front suspension.
Further to my post earlier, here's one of my son's 19 runs on Sunday:~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...
That's his mate in the little Charade.
Not bad for sixteen year old Rover 620ti fast closing in on 200,000 miles.
I believe his Lotus Elise S2 with the 1.8 K-Series would be considerably faster.
I like that word ... considerably.
Nb. Both Rover engines still on original cylinder head gaskets ...
Who knew ... 
By the way, couple weeks ago, the bracket supporting his clutch pedal fractured from metal fatigue. No bluddy wonder. Car was just drivable.. His daily driver workhorse for the last eight years or so earns its keep and has a hard but, well maintained life.
£20 to have bracket welded up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...
That's his mate in the little Charade.
Not bad for sixteen year old Rover 620ti fast closing in on 200,000 miles.
I believe his Lotus Elise S2 with the 1.8 K-Series would be considerably faster.
I like that word ... considerably.
Nb. Both Rover engines still on original cylinder head gaskets ...
Who knew ... By the way, couple weeks ago, the bracket supporting his clutch pedal fractured from metal fatigue. No bluddy wonder. Car was just drivable.. His daily driver workhorse for the last eight years or so earns its keep and has a hard but, well maintained life.
£20 to have bracket welded up.rev-erend said:
Seeing as the 100,000 mile club is so easy to reach with modern cars. 200,000 thou is the
next target.
Most cars these days will reach 250~300K with ease anyway, so lets take the stigmatism out
of 100K.
Post up you high mileages.
My E46 M3 is just a beginner at 113K.
clio 172 sport, 2002. 196k, still going strong next target.
Most cars these days will reach 250~300K with ease anyway, so lets take the stigmatism out
of 100K.
Post up you high mileages.
My E46 M3 is just a beginner at 113K.
MGJohn said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
rev-erend said:
Most cars these days will reach 250~300K with ease...
Do you have,- A. Season ticket at the MG Rover head gasket shop?
- B. Season ticket at the Mazda RX-8 engine shop?
Several MGs and Rovers I have owned over the past thirty years, both new and used, completed high mileages without incident. Most exceeding 150,000 and closing on 200,000 when I passed them on to friends or relatives.
My son's Rover 620ti is currently 198,000+ miles and is his hard used daily driver workhorse. He is determined to reach 200,000. On Sunday, the car was subjected to no less than 19 runs down the 1/4 mile Shakespeare drag strip and completed every one without incident.
Typical !! As you were ~ spread the HGFs myths
After all, I bet you have a season ticket to the "They all do that" mindset club!Car MECHANICS magazine have a long running 200,000 mile article featuring various cars. A while back there was a Montego featured which covered 800,000 miles on the original head gasket. Mind you, needed new bearings in the gearbox.
So there ! ...
I have no experience of the Mazda with the wankel power unit.
Its just i have this theory - if the K series HG issues became common knowledge at the same time or after the modern diesel engine issues became a big issue - then the K series HG issue would be a non story - imo.
I also have my suspicions that the fact that the K series was a Rover engine fitted to Rovers meant that there was a lot more hype about the issue then would be the case if it was another manufacturers engine (such as say a Ford or Vauxhall).
Sir Fergie
Sir Fergie said:
MGJohn said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
rev-erend said:
Most cars these days will reach 250~300K with ease...
Do you have,- A. Season ticket at the MG Rover head gasket shop?
- B. Season ticket at the Mazda RX-8 engine shop?
Several MGs and Rovers I have owned over the past thirty years, both new and used, completed high mileages without incident. Most exceeding 150,000 and closing on 200,000 when I passed them on to friends or relatives.
My son's Rover 620ti is currently 198,000+ miles and is his hard used daily driver workhorse. He is determined to reach 200,000. On Sunday, the car was subjected to no less than 19 runs down the 1/4 mile Shakespeare drag strip and completed every one without incident.
Typical !! As you were ~ spread the HGFs myths
After all, I bet you have a season ticket to the "They all do that" mindset club!Car MECHANICS magazine have a long running 200,000 mile article featuring various cars. A while back there was a Montego featured which covered 800,000 miles on the original head gasket. Mind you, needed new bearings in the gearbox.
So there ! ...
I have no experience of the Mazda with the wankel power unit.
Its just i have this theory - if the K series HG issues became common knowledge at the same time or after the modern diesel engine issues became a big issue - then the K series HG issue would be a non story - imo.
I also have my suspicions that the fact that the K series was a Rover engine fitted to Rovers meant that there was a lot more hype about the issue then would be the case if it was another manufacturers engine (such as say a Ford or Vauxhall).
Sir Fergie
BBC and other forms of UK media went into hyper-overkill with the toothless and ailing Rover Group which for years, anything even remotely BMC, BL, ARGroup, Rover and latterly MG-Rover was always reported with a negative slant. Yes, always!
They would never do that with say BMW, Ford and say GM etc all who have legal departments who would bite back. I feel that played a part in the scenario and reading between the lines of what you wrote, suspect you do too.
Replacing the K-Series cylinder head gasket is one of the easiest jobs for even a half decent DIYer with limited resources. So easy in fact that myself, my sons and their young Rover mad friends have changed about twenty K-Series Cylinder Head Gaskets just for the fun of it. The most recent being my son's friend Nathan who purchased this MGF VVC with a problem gasket ~ not serious ~ for very little money and between them fixed it over a leisurely weekend. The parts costing about fifty quid. I drove the car soon after they had completed the job and the lad has a decent little MGF for relative peanuts.
Here are the lads working on the engine :~
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MGJohn/media/Natha...
Following all that media overkill, some elements of the trade took full advantage of those so called HGFs and it became a nice little earner. Correction, nice BIG earner!
Some years ago, one brave soul "in the trade" on another car web site I frequent actually admitted changing over one hundred Rover Cylinder head gaskets which did not need doing. I found that hard to believe when I first read that. Now I believe it to be true based on my own experiences. It got out of hand. Even with those non-K-Series Rovers and MGs, as soon as 'any' Rover car started losing coolant, even just a little ...
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Yer head gasket's gorn mate. Cost yah. Well known fact. They all do that. Been on TV and everything...
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Yer head gasket's gorn mate. Cost yah. Well known fact. They all do that. Been on TV and everything...
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- goes the till and Invoices in excess of £1000 were not rare for a simple job which travelling specialists now only charge £300-£350 to do the job at your home in a few hours. Those specialists come highly recommended and rightly so. The job includes fitting a new Water Pump, which in my limited amateur experience of these little engines, is a prime cause of coolant loss when they start to wear out. Then without sufficient coolant, guess what can happen if not rectified in time. I suspect you know the rest.Over the past dozen years or so, I have bought four MGs and Rovers from owners professionally advised to get rid because of wrongly diagnosed "HGF"!
In each case, all that was needed was a new Water Pump. Fitted that and cars been fine ever since. The last such was an 04-MG ZS bought a couple of years ago from a fine woman who had been wrongly advised. I paid a price allowing for that HGF possibility whilst suspecting that there was nothing wrong with the gasket. So it proved. A £20 Water Pump off good old ebay delivered to my door and car has been in daily use ever since and no loss of coolant. When my son's high mileage Rover 620ti had the clutch pedal bracket fracture from metal fatigue, it was difficult to drive so I lent him the MG ZS whilst his Rover was off the road having the bracket welded. He was quite impressed. I was not surprised.. superb little cars with a great little engine which despite the design being a quarter of a century old now, can still punch well above it's weight. ...
twizellb said:
When I had my Saab 9_3 aero hot, I read about a 900 in America that had done over 1million mls.
The guy donated it to some museum, it had a headgasket at 600,000 mind.
How on earth do you do 1,000,000 miles in a car?!The guy donated it to some museum, it had a headgasket at 600,000 mind.
At an average speed of 50mph, that would take over 2 and a quarter years of continuous driving...
My son hopes to attend Pride of Longbridge this weekend. His much treasured 1982 MG Metro passed it's MoT this morning with no advisories! How about that.
It's been in the family for over thirteen years and has been stored for twelve of those years. Always starts first time except when the contact breaker points close up with age. The car is two years older than he is. Goes very well ...
It's been in the family for over thirteen years and has been stored for twelve of those years. Always starts first time except when the contact breaker points close up with age. The car is two years older than he is. Goes very well ...
Son No. 1 said:
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Contact breaker points ~ what the hell are those Dad?
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Give him a modern car's loom with a load of sensors and stuff all over the shop for an engine transplant and he's at ease. However, he was clueless about CB-points adjustment. I showed him how to adjust the Contact Breaker Points and the special equipment required... a screwdriver. Took all of five minutes to adjust and an immediate start .. Contact breaker points ~ what the hell are those Dad?
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Son No.1 said:
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Wow! That's great. Thanks Dad!
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Dads come in handy sometimes.... Wow! That's great. Thanks Dad!
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Edited by MGJohn on Friday 12th April 14:34
Silver940 said:
Owned since 18k miles Mk4 Golf 1.8T (LPG) Had a new gearbox at 209k as the diff went. Replaced the original clutch but it still had plenty of life. Shame they don't make them as tough now.
I've read a lot about LPG, and one of the main things that attracts me to it is that it is a much cleaner burning fuel, leaving less deposits in the engine. 
Have you had any Turbo problems? I always thought they were pretty unreliable things, but it seems not to be the case here.
MGJohn said:
- goes the till and Invoices in excess of £1000 were not rare for a simple job which travelling specialists now only charge £300-£350 to do the job at your home in a few hours. Those specialists come highly recommended and rightly so. The job includes fitting a new Water Pump, which in my limited amateur experience of these little engines, is a prime cause of coolant loss when they start to wear out. Then without sufficient coolant, guess what can happen if not rectified in time. I suspect you know the rest.Over the past dozen years or so, I have bought four MGs and Rovers from owners professionally advised to get rid because of wrongly diagnosed "HGF"!
In each case, all that was needed was a new Water Pump. Fitted that and cars been fine ever since. The last such was an 04-MG ZS bought a couple of years ago from a fine woman who had been wrongly advised. I paid a price allowing for that HGF possibility whilst suspecting that there was nothing wrong with the gasket. So it proved. A £20 Water Pump off good old ebay delivered to my door and car has been in daily use ever since and no loss of coolant. When my son's high mileage Rover 620ti had the clutch pedal bracket fracture from metal fatigue, it was difficult to drive so I lent him the MG ZS whilst his Rover was off the road having the bracket welded. He was quite impressed. I was not surprised.. superb little cars with a great little engine which despite the design being a quarter of a century old now, can still punch well above it's weight. ...
The K series was certainly well ahead of the game back in 1989 with 95 bhp - beating most of the normal 1.6s available at the time. Speaking of Rovers seen a british racing green R8 (is that right - it was the Mk 1 anyway) Rover 400 - looking back these were pretty nice cars for their time - and it didn't look ridiculously out of place in modern traffic among all the boring pretend SUVs, MPVs and boring Eco diesels.
Meanwhile - while everyone gives a hard time to Rovers on Head Gaskets - you have Mr VAG with 180 bhp 1.4 twinchargers drinking enough oil to keep a small refinery going lol take a look on the Fabia Mk 2 section on the Skoda Forum Briskoda there was a big massive tread about it.
Meanwhile Mazda can't fiture out how to keep their cars going between services without the DPF acting up - and BMW - oh yes BMW - the brand that can do no wrong no matter how bad the ride on runflats is - yes BMW - big issues on timing chains from 07 to 2010 model years.
And id hate to think of the uproar if the PD 2.0 TDI 170 injector issues occured on a Rover - watchdog would probably dedicate a whole series to it.
Sir Fergie
clarkey540i said:
I've read a lot about LPG, and one of the main things that attracts me to it is that it is a much cleaner burning fuel, leaving less deposits in the engine.
Have you had any Turbo problems? I always thought they were pretty unreliable things, but it seems not to be the case here.
without wanting to tempt fate, Have you had any Turbo problems? I always thought they were pretty unreliable things, but it seems not to be the case here.
turbo had been fine, first drive off is a little Smokey in the morning, been like that for over 50k now. my journey is ideal though for warm up and cool down. even the oil comes out cleaner on a service
only downside is the range, 250 miles on a tank of gas so have to fill up quite often
Sir Fergie said:
Well you certainly won't be fixing the modern diesel issues you hear about over a "leisurely" weekend at home.
The K series was certainly well ahead of the game back in 1989 with 95 bhp - beating most of the normal 1.6s available at the time. Speaking of Rovers seen a british racing green R8 (is that right - it was the Mk 1 anyway) Rover 400 - looking back these were pretty nice cars for their time - and it didn't look ridiculously out of place in modern traffic among all the boring pretend SUVs, MPVs and boring Eco diesels.
Meanwhile - while everyone gives a hard time to Rovers on Head Gaskets - you have Mr VAG with 180 bhp 1.4 twinchargers drinking enough oil to keep a small refinery going lol take a look on the Fabia Mk 2 section on the Skoda Forum Briskoda there was a big massive tread about it.
Meanwhile Mazda can't fiture out how to keep their cars going between services without the DPF acting up - and BMW - oh yes BMW - the brand that can do no wrong no matter how bad the ride on runflats is - yes BMW - big issues on timing chains from 07 to 2010 model years.
And id hate to think of the uproar if the PD 2.0 TDI 170 injector issues occured on a Rover - watchdog would probably dedicate a whole series to it.
Sir Fergie
VAG Coilpacks are another famous service item. They cost considerably more than a headgasket too.The K series was certainly well ahead of the game back in 1989 with 95 bhp - beating most of the normal 1.6s available at the time. Speaking of Rovers seen a british racing green R8 (is that right - it was the Mk 1 anyway) Rover 400 - looking back these were pretty nice cars for their time - and it didn't look ridiculously out of place in modern traffic among all the boring pretend SUVs, MPVs and boring Eco diesels.
Meanwhile - while everyone gives a hard time to Rovers on Head Gaskets - you have Mr VAG with 180 bhp 1.4 twinchargers drinking enough oil to keep a small refinery going lol take a look on the Fabia Mk 2 section on the Skoda Forum Briskoda there was a big massive tread about it.
Meanwhile Mazda can't fiture out how to keep their cars going between services without the DPF acting up - and BMW - oh yes BMW - the brand that can do no wrong no matter how bad the ride on runflats is - yes BMW - big issues on timing chains from 07 to 2010 model years.
And id hate to think of the uproar if the PD 2.0 TDI 170 injector issues occured on a Rover - watchdog would probably dedicate a whole series to it.
Sir Fergie
clarkey540i said:
VAG Coilpacks are another famous service item. They cost considerably more than a headgasket too.
So bad that these were a recall on our TT, even after 10 years old and 5 previous owners. Audi still changed them FOC to be fair to them.Thermostats are another common fault too on the 1.8T VAG engine.
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