Advertising Standards and DeLorean and Ling - THANKS
Discussion
onesickpuppy said:
Pesty, Ling had a spoof advert for a lease on a Delorean, someone reported it to the ASA, Ling ripped the absolute pish out of the ASA (and posted the whole exchange on her website) and got a load of free publicity. As usual, she is dividing opinion.
Thanks Not noticed his ling person before tried licking on the web address the profile not much wiser.
Think ill be happier staying in the dark thanks anyway.
Art0ir said:
mat777 said:
Jesus Christ
Ling, you don't really help yourself. Yes, the adverts are a joke, but not everyone is as car savvy as us and may construe them as genuine. There is no getting around it, you are falsely advertising a non existent product. Rules is rules, like them or not, and the Asa has to enforce its rules equally on all businesses.
As for your comment on not seeing anything in the correspondance to say you couldn't publish it - I assume you missed all the huge "confidential" watermarks?
Like the GoCompare bloke, your constant OTT publicity campaigns and in-yer-face style have ceased to be amusin and are now tiresome
Ling, you don't really help yourself. Yes, the adverts are a joke, but not everyone is as car savvy as us and may construe them as genuine. There is no getting around it, you are falsely advertising a non existent product. Rules is rules, like them or not, and the Asa has to enforce its rules equally on all businesses.
As for your comment on not seeing anything in the correspondance to say you couldn't publish it - I assume you missed all the huge "confidential" watermarks?
Like the GoCompare bloke, your constant OTT publicity campaigns and in-yer-face style have ceased to be amusin and are now tiresome
mat777 said:
Jesus Christ
Ling,... blah...
As for your comment on not seeing anything in the correspondance to say you couldn't publish it - I assume you missed all the huge "confidential" watermarks?
I'll answer this nonsense, because although boring, and being argued by mega-petty-posters, it is important.Ling,... blah...
As for your comment on not seeing anything in the correspondance to say you couldn't publish it - I assume you missed all the huge "confidential" watermarks?
A company or organisation can't simply declare something "confidential". I has to be mutually agreed it is confidential, or ordered by a court. People cannot simply be gagged and the right to publish withheld, simply because an organisation calls itself an "Authority".
I made it clear in writing to the ASA-holes that everything would be published online. So you can't say I did it behind their backs.
The same thing applies with the ridiculous "embargo" that the ASA tried to gag me with until it published the verdict on its website. You, or they (or anyone) simply can't just shout "embargo" and expect others to tug their cap and say "yes sir". Who the f**k do the ASA think they are? Telling me what and when I can publish something? Frankly it is shocking how they try to control and dominate... over a blatant joke advert.
The Advertising Standards Authority is a busted flush these days. In the new internet era they have NO CONTROL over what I publish on my own website. They can f**k right off. How DARE they tell *me* what I can do on my own website?
If I am breaking the law, then take me to Trading Standards, the Office of Fair Trading or call the police or tell the Information Commissioner. But "Advertising Standards"? They are a joke organisation in the modern media era. And we all pay for it!!!
In the same week, I have been complimented by the Information Commissioner.
Someone else (or the same idiot??? - probably) vindictively complained to the Information Commissioner about my website cookie use. Which is a laugh, because the ICO can't figure the stupid new cookie laws which result into setting cookies to indicate that someone has refused to accept cookies. A nonsense circular argument.
So, the ICO sent the following letter to me. http://www.lingscars.com/images/pdf/icoletter.pdf
You should note my cookie policy statement, before you read the letter:
"EU cookie law. p
s off Von Rumpy. Me... I hammer visitors to death with cookies, so I can find out what they want. Cookies allow my website to serve visitors the content they need. Get used to it. The EU cookie law is an ass."It's hard to make this stuff up
There are some complete assholes out there.
Ling
Edited by Ling Valentine on Thursday 11th April 20:13
Edited by Ling Valentine on Thursday 11th April 20:15
Edited by Ling Valentine on Thursday 11th April 20:16
It'sa me, the original idiot from the original thread - hi Ling! (thanks for the Chinese polo, by the way)
To anticipate the inevitable remarks:
- yes, I'm a prat for even entertaining the thought that the DeLorean deal was real. I was pretty sure it wasn't real, but you know, an idiot and his money...
- no, I didn't go running to the ASA. I wrote a blog post on the matter (mainly because I was shocked at being insulted by Ling, although it's clearly an excellent marketing strategy for her this case) but I'm not *that* much of an idiot that I'd fan the flames by going legal.
- as far as I can remember, the "this is a joke listing" thing wasn't on the page when I was on there, and I kinda expected it to have aborted the application process before letting me go all the way through had it been a joke listing.
- I've had a bit of abuse as a result of all this - some which was clearly more "light-hearted" banter, some which was a bit more... worrying, but I'm not too bothered provided people don't turn up at my door with pitchforks.
Oh, and even though I can't say that I think much of Ling herself, I can't deny that she's a shrewd businesswoman - and I really do like her "refreshingly honest" approach on her website, which she obviously converts into sales. Not sure I'm overly happy at being namedropped in her e-mails to the ASA, but I'm not going to cry about it :P
//edit: And as a web developer, I wholeheartedly agree with Ling on the whole cookie issue and find her method of dealing with it very amusing.
To anticipate the inevitable remarks:
- yes, I'm a prat for even entertaining the thought that the DeLorean deal was real. I was pretty sure it wasn't real, but you know, an idiot and his money...
- no, I didn't go running to the ASA. I wrote a blog post on the matter (mainly because I was shocked at being insulted by Ling, although it's clearly an excellent marketing strategy for her this case) but I'm not *that* much of an idiot that I'd fan the flames by going legal.
- as far as I can remember, the "this is a joke listing" thing wasn't on the page when I was on there, and I kinda expected it to have aborted the application process before letting me go all the way through had it been a joke listing.
- I've had a bit of abuse as a result of all this - some which was clearly more "light-hearted" banter, some which was a bit more... worrying, but I'm not too bothered provided people don't turn up at my door with pitchforks.
Oh, and even though I can't say that I think much of Ling herself, I can't deny that she's a shrewd businesswoman - and I really do like her "refreshingly honest" approach on her website, which she obviously converts into sales. Not sure I'm overly happy at being namedropped in her e-mails to the ASA, but I'm not going to cry about it :P
//edit: And as a web developer, I wholeheartedly agree with Ling on the whole cookie issue and find her method of dealing with it very amusing.
gazchap said:
It'sa me, the original idiot from the original thread - hi Ling! (thanks for the Chinese polo, by the way)
- as far as I can remember, the "this is a joke listing" thing wasn't on the page when I was on there, and I kinda expected it to have aborted the application process before letting me go all the way through had it been a joke listing.
Gaz Gaz Gaz Gaz- as far as I can remember, the "this is a joke listing" thing wasn't on the page when I was on there, and I kinda expected it to have aborted the application process before letting me go all the way through had it been a joke listing.
Helooooooooooooooo
Now come on, you KNEW this deal wasn't real before you applied for it. You admitted it. No good pretending otherwise
The "this is a joke listing" was not on when you applied, true. But you KNEW the car was not real.
Ling
(and I haven't linked to you or named you on this thread, to preserve your dignity)
Ling Valentine said:
Now come on, you KNEW this deal wasn't real before you applied for it. You admitted it. No good pretending otherwise
The "this is a joke listing" was not on when you applied, true. But you KNEW the car was not real.
Not quite - I knew it was *probably* not real. 95%-ish, if I put a percentage on it. But when the site didn't stop me from completing the application process, and didn't even have a "Hah hah you silly man, you fell for it" message at the end, I genuinely wasn't sure what to make of it.The "this is a joke listing" was not on when you applied, true. But you KNEW the car was not real.
In hindsight, yes it was stupid, I know.
Ling Valentine said:
Freedom?... Isn't that an own-brand fanny-pad for sale in Asda? The ones that stop girls from Leeds peeing when they giggle?
Ling
Haha I think you know exactly who they are!Ling
And speaking of customer service the next time someone comes up in your chat window asking for a better look at the rather attractive lady sat next to you then you shouldn't just cut them off! What kind of customer service experience is that?
I'll get me coat
Robmarriott said:
That's hardly the point though, is it?
If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
So every April 1st when companies advertise stuff they are not really selling like Virgin Mobile selling 80's style phones a few years back and Do it All selling Rainbow paint they should have been reported to the ASA?If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
Carfiend said:
Robmarriott said:
That's hardly the point though, is it?
If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
So every April 1st when companies advertise stuff they are not really selling like Virgin Mobile selling 80's style phones a few years back and Do it All selling Rainbow paint they should have been reported to the ASA?If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
k off - and perhaps send someone round to give them a bit of a kicking cos it's what they deserve.Carfiend said:
Robmarriott said:
That's hardly the point though, is it?
If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
So every April 1st when companies advertise stuff they are not really selling like Virgin Mobile selling 80's style phones a few years back and Do it All selling Rainbow paint they should have been reported to the ASA?If Argos advertised a Commodore 64 which they couldn't sell, people would complain.
Regardless of if its a joke, it's still the law to advertise things correctly, hence the existence of the ASA.
And no, it wasnt me who complained.
That said, this whole scenario is most amusing.
gazchap said:
Ling Valentine said:
Now come on, you KNEW this deal wasn't real before you applied for it. You admitted it. No good pretending otherwise
The "this is a joke listing" was not on when you applied, true. But you KNEW the car was not real.
Not quite - I knew it was *probably* not real. 95%-ish, if I put a percentage on it. But when the site didn't stop me from completing the application process, and didn't even have a "Hah hah you silly man, you fell for it" message at the end, I genuinely wasn't sure what to make of it.The "this is a joke listing" was not on when you applied, true. But you KNEW the car was not real.
In hindsight, yes it was stupid, I know.
If all legit, then kudos for posting on this.
And if that's a pic of your Celica on your profile, good dart
I can't help reading Ling's posts & hearing Leo Wong (Futuarma)
Thanks for brightening up my day
Dog Star said:
And speaking of customer service the next time someone comes up in your chat window asking for a better look at the rather attractive lady sat next to you then you shouldn't just cut them off! What kind of customer service experience is that?
I'll get me coat
Was that you???I'll get me coat
Wot Went Wong sits next to me. She arrived last year, in a shipping container from Hong Kong.
There was a young lady called Wong,
Who came on a boat from Hong Kong,
She's as grumpy as hell,
Has a chop suey smell,
She's no longer Wong, but Pong!
Wong would bite your head off and stick it up your arse. Wong explains my new car quote form in a vid. If you want to see a video of her, watch that, here: http://www.lingscars.com/quoteform.php#models Click on "Quote tutorial starring Wong"
To everyone who may moan about "advertising", please click away now.
Reason I am short with people on live chat is pressure of work. Chatting with 5 people then having an idiot arrive costs me money, so you get chopped off.
Ling
vz-r_dave said:
Ling if you could put a figure on how much this is costing you what would it be? Time and money? It would be interesting to look at your return from the publicity also
Costing me??? You mean "earning me".Every website visitor earns me approx 60p. If you divide my yearly turnover (GP really) by visitors, it comes to 60p each.
Ling
I know it is a spoof ad, but can you change the ad as I believe the Delorean never came with metallic paint, as it was made in Stainless Steel.
Also, you can tell the ASA that according to Delorean's website in the states http://delorean.com/sales/ it would appear that they are planning to start selling new cars very soon.
Also, you can tell the ASA that according to Delorean's website in the states http://delorean.com/sales/ it would appear that they are planning to start selling new cars very soon.
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