What a total ****** ****ing tossing pr*ck
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VolvoT5 said:
And to top it off these guys show a total lack of management skill, awareness or compassion by turning up to sack people in cars that cost more than some peoples houses.
oyster said:
Do you think it shows good managerial nous to turn up in what people perceive to be a very flash car on the day that you are making cutbacks?
Managerial nous, management skill, awareness and compassion are not legal requirements for running a company. Why do you expect every company to try to mimic one of the '100 Best Places to Work' companies? If that's what you're looking for, go and work for one of those companies.
I'm not sure what you were expecting. Companies are, generally, fairly inanimate when it comes to compassion and awareness. It's nice when it happens, but stupid to expect it.
OP I had exactly the same situation this year, anyone who posts on here who says good luck to him etc when their livelihood is being taken away from them is full of st, I have never begrudged a boss having a nice car but the man should show a bit of tact, park it at home for a couple of days, it really is like having your nose rubbed in it.
In my case the boss bought the car and turned up in it after he announced half his work force were being laid off, I didn't begrudge him it as he worked bloody hard for the company, it was just bad tact.
P.S, I realise this post goes against the grain on this, but when you are suddenly made redundant out of the blue and have a wife, two children and a mortgage you don't feel so charitable, I got sorted but I have only just caught up with my bills and this year was a total write off for me.
P.P.S I still see my old boss and count him as a mate so no hard feelings.
In my case the boss bought the car and turned up in it after he announced half his work force were being laid off, I didn't begrudge him it as he worked bloody hard for the company, it was just bad tact.
P.S, I realise this post goes against the grain on this, but when you are suddenly made redundant out of the blue and have a wife, two children and a mortgage you don't feel so charitable, I got sorted but I have only just caught up with my bills and this year was a total write off for me.
P.P.S I still see my old boss and count him as a mate so no hard feelings.
Edited by Rumple on Monday 22 July 17:15
Papa Hotel said:
Stop digging. You looked like a jealous little whinge from the start, you look like a bitter, resentful, spiteful, nasty piece of work now, detrimental to the running of your employer's business with your apparent incitement of unrest amongst your colleagues.
It isn't inconceivable that your boss is a member of Pistonheads, his car history suggests he's a bit of a petrolhead. I hope he's reading this, I hope he recognises himself, I hope he works out who you are.
Now that would be a hilarious twist to the threadIt isn't inconceivable that your boss is a member of Pistonheads, his car history suggests he's a bit of a petrolhead. I hope he's reading this, I hope he recognises himself, I hope he works out who you are.
02verco - pack up your desk, don't bother coming in tomorrow, I'll wave to you outside the job centre as I drive past in either my Aston, Bentley or if the weather is nice I'll take the 911
Fromaffar said:
Meh. Who gives a flying about someone else's needless material possessions?
Nice cars a needless material possession?You sure you are in the right place?
On topic, yes its a bit tactless, but its his money.
Yes the employees have made the company sucessful (or not) but he has set it up and employed them, giving them wages for that last however long.
You can't expect the tea boy to be paid as much as the MD.
MX7 said:
Managerial nous, management skill, awareness and compassion are not legal requirements for running a company.
Why do you expect every company to try to mimic one of the '100 Best Places to Work' companies? If that's what you're looking for, go and work for one of those companies.
I'm not sure what you were expecting. Companies are, generally, fairly inanimate when it comes to compassion and awareness. It's nice when it happens, but stupid to expect it.
You don't really know a lot about business do you. It's either that or you've worked for some pretty gash companies.Why do you expect every company to try to mimic one of the '100 Best Places to Work' companies? If that's what you're looking for, go and work for one of those companies.
I'm not sure what you were expecting. Companies are, generally, fairly inanimate when it comes to compassion and awareness. It's nice when it happens, but stupid to expect it.
Staff retention is one the most important elements of a business in order to:
Keep down training costs
Retain knowledge and skills
Keep down recruitment costs
Attract the best employees
Create a happy environment to encourage better productivity and reduce absenteeism
Not all businesses will focus on these things allof the time, but as an example any start up company that was looking to attract decent skilled and experienced staff would need to be able to demonstrate some of this, it's the basics.
I don't think turning up in a flash car constitutes creating low staff morale, but some people do get pissed at flashy things. I had a client have a bh once when I turned up to a meeting in a z4 coupe which is hardly the most flash car in the world, but hey ho.
Bohemianesque said:
As a reverse story: about 15 years ago when I was in corporate life, our Group Sales and Marketing Director used to drive into work in a Rover 25. I worked for him and know he had a 355, 911 and others in his garage. Even though the company was doing well, his view was exactly that: he felt lucky and didn't want to rub people's noses in it. He was a fine chap - and mates with Ron Dennis to boot.
A couple of months ago, I met him for coffee in Mayfair. He still as the 355. 911 and has added a Maserati, Range Rover and A8 to the fleet. What did he drive into town to meet me? His old Rover 25!!!!
I think that's a good idea, if you have a good car, you won't be well liked by staff. Nobody realises how hard it is to achieve it.A couple of months ago, I met him for coffee in Mayfair. He still as the 355. 911 and has added a Maserati, Range Rover and A8 to the fleet. What did he drive into town to meet me? His old Rover 25!!!!
blueg33 said:
Some people make starting and running a company look easy, but as an employee you have no way of knowing what goes on behind the scenes especially in terms of equity, risk, security etc. How do you know that the employer hasnt cashed in his pensions to keep paying his staff or sold one of his assets etc.
If the job is to tight that you have to lay people off, why would you buy a new car? Very poor form to turn up to make people redundant in a new car. I might be a sign of his poor man management and the reason the business is failing.A friend of mine was PA to the big cheese at a company I know of. The whole industry was on it's knees and cuts had to be made, so a few employees had to be let go. He then starts seriously looking at 911's. She had a little word with him.
MX7 said:
Where did I say that?
In a thread on pistonheads entitled 'what a total**************** *****************************ing tossing prick (with the lame swearing at first I thought you'd started the thread).Show me where you didn't. Are you now back peddling and saying that companies really do care about employee welfare and morale?
Transmat said:
In a thread on pistonheads entitled 'what a total**************** *****************************ing tossing prick (with the lame swearing at first I thought you'd started the thread).
Show me where you didn't. Are you now back peddling and saying that companies really do care about employee welfare and morale?
You're fking illiterate. Show me where you didn't. Are you now back peddling and saying that companies really do care about employee welfare and morale?
Some Gump said:
Simple question.
Since these managers are all useless, and add no value whatsoever, why don't you go and do that job somewhere else for say, 1/2 way between your current pay and theirs?
You'd add more value, and earn more - win win all round.
However, i suspect that you won't, because there is a vast difference between what these 'high end staff' do, and what you think they do. You presumably lack either the ability or drive to do so. I suspect it is the drive factor, otherwise you'd be out improving your lot, not sitting there with green eyes casting aspersions against others based solely on their choice of car.
I didn't say they were useless or that they add no value. I was saying what they add is often times not proportionate with what they get paid. Over the years the gap between what say an MD and an 'ordinary' employee gets paid has got wider. I think this often has little to do with success, talent, skill, etc and is often about those at the top having the ability to award themselves large pay rises. Since these managers are all useless, and add no value whatsoever, why don't you go and do that job somewhere else for say, 1/2 way between your current pay and theirs?
You'd add more value, and earn more - win win all round.
However, i suspect that you won't, because there is a vast difference between what these 'high end staff' do, and what you think they do. You presumably lack either the ability or drive to do so. I suspect it is the drive factor, otherwise you'd be out improving your lot, not sitting there with green eyes casting aspersions against others based solely on their choice of car.
I accept my post was possibly an over simplification/generalisation but I'm not even going to bother to respond to your petty personal attacks.
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