Disabled bay abuser confronted.
Discussion
It is that simple and it is black and white.
If you don't have a disability, think for a second andshow some compassion and understanding and park somewhere else.
To use your example and run with it (I wish
), if it's 3am then I don't really think it's a problem to park in a disabled bay regardless of your health. Just use some common.
If you don't have a disability, think for a second andshow some compassion and understanding and park somewhere else.
To use your example and run with it (I wish
), if it's 3am then I don't really think it's a problem to park in a disabled bay regardless of your health. Just use some common.KFC said:
Too many people are just seeing it as a case of black or white though, and its not that simple. If there are half a dozen empty disabled space and someone waits in one of them then a blue badge holder can park in any of the others without even speaking to him. If he waits in one when there aren't any spare (i wouldn't do this personally but i can see why some do) then a quick conversation or horn beep should solve it.
Its a completely different ballgame to just abandoning a car in a disabled spot and leaving it there for 8 hours.
its like speeding... nobody here is going to think you're a dick for doing 94mph on the motorway at 3am. But do 50mph past a school at 3pm and they will. Both technically wrong... but different levels of wrong.
It is black and white.Its a completely different ballgame to just abandoning a car in a disabled spot and leaving it there for 8 hours.
its like speeding... nobody here is going to think you're a dick for doing 94mph on the motorway at 3am. But do 50mph past a school at 3pm and they will. Both technically wrong... but different levels of wrong.
If you aren't a disabled permit holder, don't use the space.
Not sure it could be anymore simple TBH.
RDMcG said:
Surely the rule is clear though?,,,no parking in a disabled bay without a permit?...not "no parking if a disable person needs it.". For me its a bright line, as it is for the vast majority of people. Of course there are people abusing the system, as they do in many countries. The solution is not to think"there is a lot of fraud, so I'll be flexible in interpretation too".
They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
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Which regulation would that be? Why do people talk about laws and regulations that they've never read?They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
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It's private land, the blue badge scheme has no force here.
The blue badge scheme has a set of specific legal qualifications, which allow you certainly parking privileges on public roads and in council car parks. For example, you won't get a blue badge for a broken leg, because it's a temporary disability, however in a private car park, IMO there's nothing wrong with using a disabled bay in that scenario.
There are no fines applicable for using a disabled space without a badge, on private land, it's purely a moral issue. If this guy wants to park there, then he really is not accountable to a
hole with camera phone.RDMcG said:
Surely the rule is clear though?,,,no parking in a disabled bay without a permit?...not "no parking if a disable person needs it.". For me its a bright line, as it is for the vast majority of people. Of course there are people abusing the system, as they do in many countries. The solution is not to think"there is a lot of fraud, so I'll be flexible in interpretation too".
They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
Its like people taking double spaces in carparks 'because there is lots of space and its empty". Prime candidates to keying, unfortunately.
The rule is clear. But moral judgments are more flexible than that.They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
Its like people taking double spaces in carparks 'because there is lots of space and its empty". Prime candidates to keying, unfortunately.
I will agree with you that a person should not park in a disabled bay if he doesn't have a blue badge (because it is against the rule), but whether or not it is morally wrong (and to what extent) depends on the facts.
RR nob may have had all sorts of valid reasons to break the rule, and he may not have done much harm by doing so. What if his partner is disabled but forgot her badge? What if he had to use the space because the rest were full and he urgently needed medicine for his child and there were plenty of other blue spaces? (I know that doesn't look to be the case in the video).
People shouldn't park in blue spaces unless they have a badge. Simple. But that doesn't mean that every single case of someone doing so is outrageous (although often it is, to be honest, and it gets up my nose when I see it).
The speeding analogy isn't that close because parking in a blue bay when you shouldn't usually does make you a knob, whereas speeding is often utterly innocuous (80mph on the M6 in light traffic, for example).
Also, the filmer is a racist tt, see the description "he then forgets that not everyone else isn't like his Rotherham/Oxford/Rochdale etc etc noncey brothers"
and then
"he made a quick exit and drove off, unfortunately it wasn't straight into a brick wall, a brick wall with boxes of bees behind it and a large angry goat.......Actually scrap the goat, we all know what would happen."
t, see the description "he then forgets that not everyone else isn't like his Rotherham/Oxford/Rochdale etc etc noncey brothers"and then
"he made a quick exit and drove off, unfortunately it wasn't straight into a brick wall, a brick wall with boxes of bees behind it and a large angry goat.......Actually scrap the goat, we all know what would happen."
Edited by thelawnet on Saturday 18th April 23:33
RDMcG said:
KFC said:
So like my point above, do you apply that to speed limits etc too?
You are not causing other people any inconvenience assuming you are a sensible driver and not being a clown. Of course if you get caught you pay the piper. Fair enough.brianb said:
Sensibleboy said:
If there was something wrong with the kid in the front seat to justify parking there then why didn't he just say something?
Why should he have to justify himself?How does the guy with the camera know one of the children arnt disabled?
Surely it's easier to say, "I'm parked here because......" than get out the car (having previously been abusive) calling the other guy a nonce, generally being a t
t.Becoming more common, abuse / aggression rather than reason.
For example, I was out shopping with the Mrs and the little one this afternoon. A guy in front of us leapt up from a seat and pushed his (empty) pushchair past us bumping into ours.
"Hey be careful mate!"
"F**k off, my daughter's......" I missed the end of it, but whatever his reason is his first reaction was "f**k off" rather than "sorry, but...."
KFC said:
Okay, so who is the Range Rover driver in the original video inconveniencing then? Bear in mind there is clearly other disabled spaces available to use.
Looking on Google Maps it looks like there are dozens of them:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.657928,-1.766877...
Not a good reason to use one, but if he in fact had a reason (which is perfectly possible), then he is no way accountable to the mouthy t
t filming him.Piersman2 said:
J4CKO said:
Piersman2 said:
Oh my god!!! Moral outrages at full bore. 
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
It was a busy small local carpark. There were two empty disabled spaces. I parked in one whilst my OH went into the shop to get a couple of bits.
I sat in the car with the engine running quite happy to move at a moments notice if it so happened that 2 disabled drivers arrived in the 5 minutes my OH was in the shop.
I'm also quite happy to use disabled toilets. Send me straight to hell.
There was only 1 prick in that video, only 1 passive-aggressive, abusive, dhead out to create some grief and confrontation. And he wasn't sat in the car.
They aren't there for you regardless of whether you are prepared to move, whilst you are sat in readiness people are going past thinking what a I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
It was a busy small local carpark. There were two empty disabled spaces. I parked in one whilst my OH went into the shop to get a couple of bits.
I sat in the car with the engine running quite happy to move at a moments notice if it so happened that 2 disabled drivers arrived in the 5 minutes my OH was in the shop.
I'm also quite happy to use disabled toilets. Send me straight to hell.
There was only 1 prick in that video, only 1 passive-aggressive, abusive, d
head out to create some grief and confrontation. And he wasn't sat in the car. you are.Hackney said:
If he can justify himself, why wouldn't he?
Why the f*** should he? He's not accountable to Walter Mitty. And especially not if Walter Mitty was abusive first.Hackney said:
Surely it's easier to say, "I'm parked here because......" than get out the car (having previously been abusive) calling the other guy a nonce, generally being a tt.
Why the f*** should he? Perhaps he has some family crisis he is dealing with. He doesn't have to explain himself to Walter Mitty.t.Hackney said:
Becoming more common, abuse / aggression rather than reason.
For example, I was out shopping with the Mrs and the little one this afternoon. A guy in front of us leapt up from a seat and pushed his (empty) pushchair past us bumping into ours.
"Hey be careful mate!"
"F**k off, my daughter's......" I missed the end of it, but whatever his reason is his first reaction was "f**k off" rather than "sorry, but...."
Bumping into someone is not comparable to being an unpaid traffic warden.For example, I was out shopping with the Mrs and the little one this afternoon. A guy in front of us leapt up from a seat and pushed his (empty) pushchair past us bumping into ours.
"Hey be careful mate!"
"F**k off, my daughter's......" I missed the end of it, but whatever his reason is his first reaction was "f**k off" rather than "sorry, but...."
Janesy B said:
The spaces are close to the store for the convenience of disabled people, if you're not disabled then don't fking park in them. It's not that hard really.
Problem is that in a lot of stores( our local ASDA is a prime example), the P&C spaces are nearer than the disabled ones. Especially if you wish to use the cash point. So what do you do if you want cash. Park beind some P &C cars, or take up a space. Either way the ferals will have ago. I've seen a couple of OAP almost reduced to tears from a group of feral mothers .The CRIME- parking in a P & C SPACE. WHY- the available disabled spaces were filled up by inconsiderate Parents. And the OAP wanted to get cash from the ATM . king park in them. It's not that hard really.What you didn't see was the 100 other disabled spaces.
Tesco near me has gone completely overkill on disabled and mother and baby space
Reckon it has 500 spaces. At 100 are disabled, 100 are mother and baby.
Strange thing is the mother and baby spaces are closer to the entrance than the disabled spaces.
Tesco near me has gone completely overkill on disabled and mother and baby space
Reckon it has 500 spaces. At 100 are disabled, 100 are mother and baby.
Strange thing is the mother and baby spaces are closer to the entrance than the disabled spaces.
Seventy said:
The biggest idiots are those who have debated this for six pages.
It's a moral thing. If you're not disabled you shouldn't park in a disabled bay,ever. End of.
No that's not right. You can park in a disabled bay if carrying a disabled passenger, for example. There's no requirement that the disabled person be the driver.It's a moral thing. If you're not disabled you shouldn't park in a disabled bay,ever. End of.
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