RE: Driven: Porsche 911 GT3 RS

[Dagnut]

Anh said:

Supertoadylight said:

Is it me or are all the comment of "crashed into halfords", "that roll cage is pants", "those graphics are disgusting", "you couldn't use it everyday" COMPLETELY POINTLESS!!!!

Pretty sure the Porsche GT3 is the one you'd buy then...the GT3 RS is a track focussed car...

IMO these comments are irrelevant! If you wanted a daily/subtle/usable car then buy the standard trim GT3/Turbo/GT2??? It's not as if the GT3RS is Porsche's only offering.....

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

Be fair, at the moment this is the production car available that is race ready. What's not to like about that?
Every single product on sale today is about image and spin..its called having a marketing department. I'm not a Porsche fanboy and I won't defend their heritage or any thing like, but the criticisms you've level at them can be levelled at any manufacturer...and you can't claim any other major manufacturer offers a car as raw as this

[hairykrishna]

Anh said:

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Those people are unlikely to buy this though. They want comfy seats, air con, nice stereo etc in their show off wagon. Porsche makes plenty of money off these types with other models in their range.

I don't really get the complaints about the spoiler either - it's not exactly 'all show and no go' is it? I'm not a huge fan of modern Porsches but I'd love one of these.

Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 17th February 17:13

[Agoogy]

LuS1fer said:

Beirut Taxi said:

LuS1fer said:

Looks like the trip to Halfords paid off then. I have to say that would cause me loss of sleep for all the wrong reasons.

Are you referring to the rear spoiler?

I'm referring to many aspects of it. To put it another way, if you saw this car on someone's drive and knew nothing of this model, my view is that you'd think the owner had chavved it up. I KNOW the pieces are functional and doubtless beautifully crafted but fast Porsches haven't had to look like this in the past.

I think on the whole the really special ones have looked like this...see those mentioned above and think of the original whale tail... flared arches, Speedsters, CS models, CUP models there is a history of it... remember the white over red or two tone brown 924 turbo with tartan interior?
Obviously Porsche can do subtle, but as rule....the really good ones demand a second look when seen on the road, be it for graphics, body colour or adenda...

[pistolp]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...

[lusopiston]

I think the brialliancy of this car is to have a racing car with j u s t enough allowances to make it enjoyable to use it on the road as well. Is there any other car on the market, at the price point, that offers such an hardcore experience but still make the old adage of driving your racecar to the track not only possible but enjoyable? Can't think of one.

In fact I think where it really shines is on the road, if you're after a pure track tool a Radical or something like that would be much faster. Caterham is even rawer, much much lighter, even better steering, but then it has an engine that pales in comparison to the awesome flat-six, Corn flakes build quality, etc, etc.

I would love to have lot of cars on tap to drive but having only one choice, this would have to be it!

[Housey]

Anh said:

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

A yes, sweeping statements, the route of the pompous ignoramus. I think you'll find that many RS owners are enthusiasts first and wealthy second and will use their car on track to a greater extent than any other manufacturer. Not all will be super quick but at least they will venture out and enjoy their car, while not giving a toss what some spod on the internet things because he has the bee of ignorance in his mind. I concure that many 911 owners will buy 911's because of, well, it's a 911, I suggest this is very rare with RS owners and I know loads of em.

[woppum]

Housey said:

Anh said:

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

A yes, sweeping statements, the route of the pompous ignoramus. I think you'll find that many RS owners are enthusiasts first and wealthy second and will use their car on track to a greater extent than any other manufacturer. Not all will be super quick but at least they will venture out and enjoy their car, while not giving a toss what some spod on the internet things because he has the bee of ignorance in his mind. I concure that many 911 owners will buy 911's because of, well, it's a 911, I suggest this is very rare with RS owners and I know loads of em.

Dont know Housy. Im rather upset by the comment and will therefor be giving may car away to Anh free of charge next month. I only hope he can live with the graphics and middle ageness of it all.


bks I will

[Housey]

woppum said:

Housey said:

Anh said:

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

A yes, sweeping statements, the route of the pompous ignoramus. I think you'll find that many RS owners are enthusiasts first and wealthy second and will use their car on track to a greater extent than any other manufacturer. Not all will be super quick but at least they will venture out and enjoy their car, while not giving a toss what some spod on the internet things because he has the bee of ignorance in his mind. I concure that many 911 owners will buy 911's because of, well, it's a 911, I suggest this is very rare with RS owners and I know loads of em.

Dont know Housy. Im rather upset by the comment and will therefor be giving may car away to Anh free of charge next month. I only hope he can live with the graphics and middle ageness of it all.


bks I will

He wouldn't want it mate, he'll be in the "I'd never be seen dead in one even if you gave it me, i'd sell it and buy something else" camp I suspect.

[edo]

E36GUY said:

oh dear.

[TWIN TUBI]

Anh said:

Supertoadylight said:

Is it me or are all the comment of "crashed into halfords", "that roll cage is pants", "those graphics are disgusting", "you couldn't use it everyday" COMPLETELY POINTLESS!!!!

Pretty sure the Porsche GT3 is the one you'd buy then...the GT3 RS is a track focussed car...

IMO these comments are irrelevant! If you wanted a daily/subtle/usable car then buy the standard trim GT3/Turbo/GT2??? It's not as if the GT3RS is Porsche's only offering.....

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

I agree with your comments Anh,I don't see the RS i see Another overpriced pointless badge engineered 911 variant.



To all of the 911 worshipers on pistonheads Take my jezza clarksonesqe advice. If you want to be part of the poser 911 owner club dont buy the 3.8RS buy a turbo 911 and fit SLAMMIN' 21 inch RIMZ, that will definitely impress the your gray Haired middle aged pals at the golf club.
If you want to set lap records at your local race circuit buy a radical SR8LM and use the money you saved to trailer it.







CONGRATULATIONS! Porche Badge engineers produce another niche midlife crisis chariot.....
911 Carrera
911 Carrera S
911 Carrera Cabriolet
911 Carrera S Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4
911 Carrera 4S
911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
911 Targa 4
911 Targa 4S
911 Turbo
911 Turbo Cabriolet
911 Turbo S
911 Turbo S Cabriolet
911 GT2
911 GT3
911 GT3 RS
911 Sport Classic





The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

[Housey]

TWIN TUBI said:

Anh said:

Supertoadylight said:

Is it me or are all the comment of "crashed into halfords", "that roll cage is pants", "those graphics are disgusting", "you couldn't use it everyday" COMPLETELY POINTLESS!!!!

Pretty sure the Porsche GT3 is the one you'd buy then...the GT3 RS is a track focussed car...

IMO these comments are irrelevant! If you wanted a daily/subtle/usable car then buy the standard trim GT3/Turbo/GT2??? It's not as if the GT3RS is Porsche's only offering.....

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

I agree with your comments Anh,I don't see the RS i see Another overpriced pointless badge engineered 911 variant.



To all of the 911 worshipers on pistonheads Take my jezza clarksonesqe advice. If you want to be part of the poser 911 owner club dont buy the 3.8RS buy a turbo 911 and fit SLAMMIN' 21 inch RIMZ, that will definitely impress the your gray Haired middle aged pals at the golf club.
If you want to set lap records at your local race circuit buy a radical SR8LM and use the money you saved to trailer it.







CONGRATULATIONS! Porche Badge engineers produce another niche midlife crisis chariot.....
911 Carrera
911 Carrera S
911 Carrera Cabriolet
911 Carrera S Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4
911 Carrera 4S
911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
911 Targa 4
911 Targa 4S
911 Turbo
911 Turbo Cabriolet
911 Turbo S
911 Turbo S Cabriolet
911 GT2
911 GT3
911 GT3 RS
911 Sport Classic





The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

[ewenm]

TWIN TUBI said:

The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

I still don't understand why people are so fascinated by Nurburgring times

I not a big fan of most modern 911s, nor am I particularly fond of the GTR but both are hugely capable products and whether one is a few seconds faster or slower round a few miles of German tarmac is utterly irrelevant to day-to-day driving. As long as the car puts a big smile on your face, who cares about those seconds (that very few drivers could replicate anyway)?

[Housey]

ewenm said:

TWIN TUBI said:

The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

I still don't understand why people are so fascinated by Nurburgring times

I not a big fan of most modern 911s, nor am I particularly fond of the GTR but both are hugely capable products and whether one is a few seconds faster or slower round a few miles of German tarmac is utterly irrelevant to day-to-day driving. As long as the car puts a big smile on your face, who cares about those seconds (that very few drivers could replicate anyway)?

No one that buys them in my experience, both epic as you say. It tends to be the domain of thick feckers not people who have driven both and can appreciate epicness in all its forms. Those who dismiss either have serious issues....and look silly.

But this is about GT3 RS epicness not NeeeSon epicness, back OT

[LuS1fer]

ewenm said:

TWIN TUBI said:

The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

I still don't understand why people are so fascinated by Nurburgring times

I not a big fan of most modern 911s, nor am I particularly fond of the GTR but both are hugely capable products and whether one is a few seconds faster or slower round a few miles of German tarmac is utterly irrelevant to day-to-day driving. As long as the car puts a big smile on your face, who cares about those seconds (that very few drivers could replicate anyway)?

I agree entirely and much of the pleasure of a car is to stand and look at it and I would get zero satisfaction from the Nissan in that respect and never have to look back over my shoulder after parking it for another look.

[sleep envy]

TWIN TUBI said:

Anh said:

Supertoadylight said:

Is it me or are all the comment of "crashed into halfords", "that roll cage is pants", "those graphics are disgusting", "you couldn't use it everyday" COMPLETELY POINTLESS!!!!

Pretty sure the Porsche GT3 is the one you'd buy then...the GT3 RS is a track focussed car...

IMO these comments are irrelevant! If you wanted a daily/subtle/usable car then buy the standard trim GT3/Turbo/GT2??? It's not as if the GT3RS is Porsche's only offering.....

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

I agree with your comments Anh,I don't see the RS i see Another overpriced pointless badge engineered 911 variant.



To all of the 911 worshipers on pistonheads Take my jezza clarksonesqe advice. If you want to be part of the poser 911 owner club dont buy the 3.8RS buy a turbo 911 and fit SLAMMIN' 21 inch RIMZ, that will definitely impress the your gray Haired middle aged pals at the golf club.
If you want to set lap records at your local race circuit buy a radical SR8LM and use the money you saved to trailer it.







CONGRATULATIONS! Porche Badge engineers produce another niche midlife crisis chariot.....
911 Carrera
911 Carrera S
911 Carrera Cabriolet
911 Carrera S Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4
911 Carrera 4S
911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
911 Targa 4
911 Targa 4S
911 Turbo
911 Turbo Cabriolet
911 Turbo S
911 Turbo S Cabriolet
911 GT2
911 GT3
911 GT3 RS
911 Sport Classic





The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

as if people care

[woppum]

None of this anti rs'ness makes sense to me. I've driven the lot of supercars and none thrill me as much as this new car. The way I see it I, its more up my street and track focused than th 458 and costs 60k less. I don't need to justify my purchase to those that don't get the car. If you don't get it I doubt you have driven one.

[sleep envy]

Housey said:

ewenm said:

TWIN TUBI said:

The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

I still don't understand why people are so fascinated by Nurburgring times

I not a big fan of most modern 911s, nor am I particularly fond of the GTR but both are hugely capable products and whether one is a few seconds faster or slower round a few miles of German tarmac is utterly irrelevant to day-to-day driving. As long as the car puts a big smile on your face, who cares about those seconds (that very few drivers could replicate anyway)?

No one that buys them in my experience, both epic as you say. It tends to be the domain of thick feckers not people who have driven both and can appreciate epicness in all its forms. Those who dismiss either have serious issues....and look silly.

But this is about GT3 RS epicness not NeeeSon epicness, back OT

back in Dec I drove both a GTR and a GT3

whilst the GTR is very capable it's possibly too capable and you end up driving everywhere at massive speed - it also feels very synthetic

I ended up buying the GT3

but what do I know, I've only driven both

[HAB]

TWIN TUBI said:

Nissan GTR mouthfart

Oh for an ignore poster button!


I know someone with an R35, and he was telling me recently how completely embarrassing it is when he reads stuff like the drivel you've written above. It got me thinking that it must have a very negative effect on the perception of the car, when the majority of GTR fans on the internet seem to be spotty teenage boys with a fanboy complex. It also makes the people who write posts like yours seem a bit tragic. Your doing the car absolutely no favours, and I bet Nissan would love to be able to dissociate with the fast & the furious children.


If there's a Porsche thread on PH, you can be sure there is some knobber spouting how much better the GTR is. Why? And why do you never see it anywhere near as much with any other car?

BTW re the GTR owner - he also thought that even with the much publicised 'Ring laptimes, it's not really something that works very well as a track day car, apparently the gearbox oil temps can get worringly high fairly quickly, he also said that its very heavy on brakes and tyres if used hard. Over one lap its very quick, but it's just too lardy to cope with sustained use was his summary. Those are his opinions as an owner and not mine, by the way.

Now, can we forget about the Nissan, since this is a GT3RS thread?

Edited by HAB on Wednesday 17th February 22:53

[Dagnut]

TWIN TUBI said:

Anh said:

Supertoadylight said:

Is it me or are all the comment of "crashed into halfords", "that roll cage is pants", "those graphics are disgusting", "you couldn't use it everyday" COMPLETELY POINTLESS!!!!

Pretty sure the Porsche GT3 is the one you'd buy then...the GT3 RS is a track focussed car...

IMO these comments are irrelevant! If you wanted a daily/subtle/usable car then buy the standard trim GT3/Turbo/GT2??? It's not as if the GT3RS is Porsche's only offering.....

The point is there are enough middle aged men who has the money to buy these vulgar panzer-racers - Porsche have hired some clever marketing people.

Porsche is all about image and spin - 90% of so-called enthuasts will rave on about their heritage when they dont even know what their heritage conisists of

Regards,

Anh

I agree with your comments Anh,I don't see the RS i see Another overpriced pointless badge engineered 911 variant.



To all of the 911 worshipers on pistonheads Take my jezza clarksonesqe advice. If you want to be part of the poser 911 owner club dont buy the 3.8RS buy a turbo 911 and fit SLAMMIN' 21 inch RIMZ, that will definitely impress the your gray Haired middle aged pals at the golf club.
If you want to set lap records at your local race circuit buy a radical SR8LM and use the money you saved to trailer it.







CONGRATULATIONS! Porche Badge engineers produce another niche midlife crisis chariot.....
911 Carrera
911 Carrera S
911 Carrera Cabriolet
911 Carrera S Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4
911 Carrera 4S
911 Carrera 4 Cabriolet
911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet
911 Targa 4
911 Targa 4S
911 Turbo
911 Turbo Cabriolet
911 Turbo S
911 Turbo S Cabriolet
911 GT2
911 GT3
911 GT3 RS
911 Sport Classic





The sad end of the story for all of the German car apologists here is that A £60,000 4 seater Nissan with electric everything,30gb 11 speaker Bose sound system and Leather seats is faster than NOT only the tin can poverty spec 3.8RS it also blitzes all of the above rear engined beetles around the Nürburgring.

So are you a nissan fan or a car fan? or just a w@nker? I'm a huge GTR fan but I'm a car fan first and this RS certainly gets the nod over a GTR..be willing to bet it beats it around a circuit , even if the GTR beats it on 1 flying lap after 2 or 3 when the weight starts to wear the tyres and brakes the RS will reel it.

[rightwheeldrive]

Why do people get so over good cars? I dont wish for a GTR, but i can understand why someone would. As for the Porka, i would Love Love one but i do drive a caged bucket every day, so a bit of comfort would be welcom Lol. I was sneered at once by a woman in an x5 truck, she said i wondered who would own that? as i got into my bucket & harness, But i didnt get sweaty over it as she drove an x5! And i would rather walk on my hands than drive one of those things again.
So every one to there own!