Bentley badge on a Chrysler 300C!

[anonymous-user]

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

[CDP]

DeputyDawg said:

Just the job for frightening middle lane morons out of the way.

Thinking about it you could put a silhouette behind one of those mesh grilles with orangey-red back lighting...

No!!! What am I thinking?

Please accept my utmost apologies for a minor lapse into the world of the Barry Boy.

[nsmith1180]

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

[CDP]

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

Aren't the European market cars built in Austria?

[Stefan SRT8]

CDP said:

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

Aren't the European market cars built in Austria?

Correct, they're built by Magna Steyr in Gratz.

I don't see the problem with the build quality or interior, I have no squeaks or rattles in mine, never had any trim quality issues and the quality/build is no different than any other Japanese or bulk of European models I've been in.

So if the other statements above are correct, Magna Steyr must grade the ability of its employees and assign them to what car they build accordingly as there are a few premium brands built at Gratz too!

I always like to have a little look in the profiles of people who slate cars so badly, always worth a chuckle. I'll take my 6.1L Hemi V8 over a Suzuki Swift any day!

Stef

P.S Yes, I do have a small willy

[nsmith1180]

Stefan SRT8 said:

CDP said:

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

Aren't the European market cars built in Austria?

Correct, they're built by Magna Steyr in Gratz.

I don't see the problem with the build quality or interior, I have no squeaks or rattles in mine, never had any trim quality issues and the quality/build is no different than any other Japanese or bulk of European models I've been in.

So if the other statements above are correct, Magna Steyr must grade the ability of its employees and assign them to what car they build accordingly as there are a few premium brands built at Gratz too!

I always like to have a little look in the profiles of people who slate cars so badly, always worth a chuckle. I'll take my 6.1L Hemi V8 over a Suzuki Swift any day!

Stef

P.S Yes, I do have a small willy

As I have said, I do not fault you for your car choice, (please dont fault mine, it has a hell of a lot more going for it than the 300c IMHO) I just dont understand it. And when you look at the build quality and the dashboard materials used etc.

Why oh why would someone buy the diesel srt design when they can get a real merc cheaper. BRAND NEW.

[alsem]

could be worse:

[Stefan SRT8]

Ah but Nick, could you get an equivilent size Merc for the same money, we are talking E class as a direct size equivilent? Personally I'm not a fan of Mercedes, I think they are over priced and don't have that good a reputation for build quality and reliability. To be honest the only thing I'm aware of as a known fault on the Chrysler 300C, and I'm talking the diesel model here, is swirl pot motor failure on the engine, and wait, hang on, who makes that engine, oh yes, Mercedes!

At the end of the day, the 300C is amazingly good value for what it is, and inevitably something has to give and yes, it is the quality of the interior, but as I said above, I've been in plenty of other cars and the interior materials are not any better. I have no issues with the build quality of mine, I can't say the same for an American built one, I've never been in one to compare.

If I was to look for a replacement for my SRT8 I'd be looking at a C63, E63, M5, RS4 or similar to match performance in a saloon car, potentially some of those are almost double the price and I seriously doubt they are double as good.

Anyway, we're digressing from the original topic. If you put Bentley badges on your 300C, you're a cock.

.............by the way, I'm not knocking the Suzuki Swift, the current ones are actually very nice looking cars, just not my cup of tea.

Stef

[Matt Harper]

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

And to add to the pedantry, the North American ones are built in Brampton ON. - not in the USA.
The SRT-8 motor is actually assembled in Mexico!

As per Stef, my SRT-8 is an 07, now with 46K on it. No rattles, squeaks or gronks. I had one small issue with a gearbox (MB unit) seal which was fixed under warranty. Other than that, it has been faultless. Mine has no mods other than a cat-back exhaust and a Diablo tune.
My daughter (who is somewhat lighter than me and who's 60 ft reactions are a little sharper than mine) ran consistant sub-12 sec passes on street Nitto's at Orlando Speedworld last summer.
They are bad fast for 4200lbs.

Clearly, they are not to everyone's taste - how could they be, but to arbitrarily announce that "They are crap" - just because Jeremy Clarkson says so, is a bit silly really. 'Quality' in this context is subjective. What is the comparison? If it's a Suzuki - I would suggest that you are derranged, mentally.

As already stated, attempting to pass off a car as something that it so obviously isn't seems to be rather idiotic - but then, the world is awash with idiots, so why all the hysteria about it?

[Stefan SRT8]

The Crack Fox said:

Matt Harper said:

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

to arbitrarily announce that "They are crap" - just because Jeremy Clarkson says so, is a bit silly really.

So, opinions only allowed from those who have owned one then ? And I think the Poster above has owned one anyway.

Uh, no, he drove one. His review seems a little contradictory though, he suggests it's a budget brand but yet complains about the quality of the interior.

He also suggests that Chrysler built it as a Bentley for the common man. Strangely enough the 300C bears quite a resemblance to the original one of the 50's with a very similar looking grille.



Everyone is entitled to their opinions, there is a difference though between impression and experience.

Incidentally the platform was based on the W210 which was actually used from 1995 until 2002 (2003 for the 'wagon variant')

Stef

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:12

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:16

[anonymous-user]

Stefan SRT8 said:

The Crack Fox said:

Matt Harper said:

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

to arbitrarily announce that "They are crap" - just because Jeremy Clarkson says so, is a bit silly really.

So, opinions only allowed from those who have owned one then ? And I think the Poster above has owned one anyway.

Uh, no, he drove one. His review seems a little contradictory though, he suggests it's a budget brand but yet complains about the quality of the interior.

He also suggests that Chrysler built it as a Bentley for the common man. Strangely enough the 300C bears quite a resemblance to the original one of the 50's with a very similar looking grille.



Everyone is entitled to their opinions, there is a difference though between impression and experience.

Incidentally the platform was based on the W210 which was actually used from 1995 until 2002 (2003 for the 'wagon variant')

Stef

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:12

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:16

Jeez, talk about defensive!!!

[Matt Harper]

The Crack Fox said:

So, opinions only allowed from those who have owned one then ? And I think the Poster above has owned one anyway.

Absolutely not - and if it came out that way I apologize - that wasn't my intention.

My point was not aimed at a single individual in that context. Having a bad personal experience (which he clearly has) would naturally taint the overall view of a car - and it's the experience that is validating.
I suspect that many of the critics have no experience of the car, judging by the lack of any specifics. This observation is by no means limited to the 300C either.
In the grand scheme of things none of it is very important really. It's not as if I have a responsibility to sell what I feel are attributes of the car. For those who don't like 'em, have at it - only giving some insight as to why, makes more compelling reading and provides food for thought.

On reflection, I've often been guilty of defending this and other vehicles I've owned, because cars are such emotional and personal objects - so it's easy to react the same way you might if someone were to call your child ugly or worthless.

So, if you like them - great. If you don't like them - great. If you have one and have applied silly badges and trinkets to it - fk it, it's your car, playa.

[Rodimus]

St John Smythe said:

Stefan SRT8 said:

The Crack Fox said:

Matt Harper said:

nsmith1180 said:

yonex said:

nsmith1180 said:

If you have have a dig around in my profile, you can go and find my review of the 300c touring I suffered a while ago. To sum it up. Horrible handling, terrible gearbox, decent diesel and low rent interior.

You cant go slandering American cars round here

Im not, Im slandering a German mistake. German platform, engine and gearbox, American design, and judging by the quality, all built in a sweatshop outside azerbizahn (I know that speeeling is a terrible).

I mean the quality of the car, It was built by 8 year olds. Probably signed individually but the crayola washed off.

to arbitrarily announce that "They are crap" - just because Jeremy Clarkson says so, is a bit silly really.

So, opinions only allowed from those who have owned one then ? And I think the Poster above has owned one anyway.

Uh, no, he drove one. His review seems a little contradictory though, he suggests it's a budget brand but yet complains about the quality of the interior.

He also suggests that Chrysler built it as a Bentley for the common man. Strangely enough the 300C bears quite a resemblance to the original one of the 50's with a very similar looking grille.



Everyone is entitled to their opinions, there is a difference though between impression and experience.

Incidentally the platform was based on the W210 which was actually used from 1995 until 2002 (2003 for the 'wagon variant')

Stef

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:12

Edited by Stefan SRT8 on Thursday 26th August 15:16

Jeez, talk about defensive!!!

He has every right to be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there is a big percentage of people in here who will find any American product and say how crap it is without experiencing them to begin with. Take a look at the mustang boss thread where most of the people on here argued how great an M3 is and they have compared it to the standard mustang GT too. In this thread, everyone said the 300c is crap, so don't be surprised when the owners of one get in here and defend themselves.

[Matt Harper]

Stefan SRT8 said:

He also suggests that Chrysler built it as a Bentley for the common man. Strangely enough the 300C bears quite a resemblance to the original one of the 50's with a very similar looking grille.

It also took some inspiration from the Chronos concept.

[Matt Harper]

Though, to be fair, I do feel that Chrysler were taking the piss a bit with this one.....

Chrysler Imperial Concept:

[Rodimus]

LOL I remember that pic. At the time i thought rolls Royce have lost their minds

[LDN]

I've not driven a 300C but I've sat in one and thought it was great... as for Bentley badges

[nsmith1180]

I do not say that Chrysler made a bentley for the common man, just that that was the image they were cultivating.

I have never owned one, but was forced to suffer 400+ miles in a 300c Touring SRT Design diesel. It handles badly, the gearbox is ropy, the dash wasn't brilliant and the spec was fair to middle.

I was achy and hurting when I got out, scared stiff by the way it bumped and bounced over the smallest imperfection in the road and generally unimpressed. I did 700 miles in one day in a Kia Picanto and enjoyed it more. As I have said, each to their own, but to me they are hateful.

[vpr]

Stefan SRT8 said:

I always like to have a little look in the profiles of people who slate cars so badly, always worth a chuckle.

Same here and my point earlier on in this thread.

Amazed by the slating on this thread I borrowed one on Tuesday and took it down to Cornwall (From Kent)

The Diesel saloon. What a cracking car, great performance and very comfortable, a real pleasure to drive.

You have to remember what these cars cost and they represent superb value.

Still not saying I'd stick a Bentley badge on one but live and let live.....don't get so excited.

[Ari]

Hmmmm....