RE: Driven: Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
Discussion
ZeeTacoe said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.HAB said:
Blue Meanie said:
What is missing? I often ponder what the thing that people say is missing is...
Crappy engineering? Flakey build quality? Lack of development? Being built in a shed by men in boiler suits? An outsourced V8 engine? The ability to go more than a few K without falling apart? You see, because the Veyron doesn't do any of the above, it has no soul or character.Therefore it's shyte. Simple really.
Ain't PH great?
HAB said:
Blue Meanie said:
What is missing? I often ponder what the thing that people say is missing is...
Crappy engineering? Flakey build quality? Lack of development? Being built in a shed by men in boiler suits? An outsourced V8 engine? The ability to go more than a few K without falling apart? You see, because the Veyron doesn't do any of the above, it has no soul or character.Therefore it's shyte. Simple really.
Ain't PH great?
Wammer said:
Does anyone else think they only did this version as they saw how badly spanked the old version was (up to 200mph) by the Mclaren F1 on Top Gear.
McLaren F1 still the best super car ever. Its Lighter, smaller, better designed and has 3 seats.
The Top Gear race was over a 1 mile distance and from what I recall the Bugatti passed the flag first.....McLaren F1 still the best super car ever. Its Lighter, smaller, better designed and has 3 seats.
anyway
Autocar said:
But the number to end all numbers concerning the Super Sport, the one that will stop you in your tracks and make you either laugh or cry, is this; in the same time that it takes a McLaren F1 to get from rest to 200mph, the Veyron SS can go from zero to 200mph and back again – and then do zero to 60mph as well. Think about that for a moment – and then think about it for a little while longer.
Edited by E30M3SE on Thursday 28th October 10:31
BILL PAYER said:
ZeeTacoe said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.Oh and have some of these ''''
TonyHetherington said:
HAB said:
Blue Meanie said:
What is missing? I often ponder what the thing that people say is missing is...
Crappy engineering? Flakey build quality? Lack of development? Being built in a shed by men in boiler suits? An outsourced V8 engine? The ability to go more than a few K without falling apart? You see, because the Veyron doesn't do any of the above, it has no soul or character.Therefore it's shyte. Simple really.
Ain't PH great?
BILL PAYER said:
Patrick Bateman said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...
Page 5 for the first mention of the Ultima. I was becoming slightly concerned that a whole Veyron (or other supercar) thread might pass without the inevitable Hinckley-based kit car comparison, but I'm delighted to see that when the chips were down PH delivered in spades.
Edited by Ahonen on Thursday 28th October 11:14
Ahonen said:
BILL PAYER said:
Patrick Bateman said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...
Page 5 for the first mention of the Ultima. I was becoming slightly concerned that a whole Veyron (or other supercar) thread might pass without the inevitable Hinckley-based kit car comparison, but I'm delighted to see that when the chips were down PH delivered in spades.
Edited by Ahonen on Thursday 28th October 11:14
I remember that when the shape was initially shown and the 1000 hp figure claimed, feasibility studies hadn't been done. It had turned out that the proposed shape was distinctly unsuitable for cooling the engine and that the cooling system draws a large amount of power to overcome that. In my eyes, this makes the car overengineered to compensate for a fundamental flaw. Of course I don't have the kind of money to afford it, but I'm perfectly sure this wouldn't be a car that I would buy even if I could.
Can never understand the hate for the Bugatti?!?!?
If Journos as good and experienced as Steve Sutcliffe and Chris Harris say its an amazing car and best car in the world.
Then thats good enough for me!
I remember reading that Chris Harris says it could even show a 997 GT3 the way home on some country roads and that it IS fun to drive and involving.
but yet soooo many people on here slag it for being boring and just a top speed car with no character that havent even ever seen one!! let alone driven one!
by the way, Steve Sutcliffe was awesome when he tested the proper Jaguar F1 car. Its well worth watching the videos of that. The man can drive!
If Journos as good and experienced as Steve Sutcliffe and Chris Harris say its an amazing car and best car in the world.
Then thats good enough for me!
I remember reading that Chris Harris says it could even show a 997 GT3 the way home on some country roads and that it IS fun to drive and involving.
but yet soooo many people on here slag it for being boring and just a top speed car with no character that havent even ever seen one!! let alone driven one!
by the way, Steve Sutcliffe was awesome when he tested the proper Jaguar F1 car. Its well worth watching the videos of that. The man can drive!
Edited by Porkie on Thursday 28th October 15:03
Porkie said:
Steve Sutcliffe was awesome when he tested the proper Jaguar F1 car. Its well worth watching the videos of that. The man can drive!
He also drove the Honda of 2007, and really impressed in it (0.5 secs off the test driver's time I seem to recall) - both well worth watching TonyHetherington said:
Porkie said:
Steve Sutcliffe was awesome when he tested the proper Jaguar F1 car. Its well worth watching the videos of that. The man can drive!
He also drove the Honda of 2007, and really impressed in it (0.5 secs off the test driver's time I seem to recall) - both well worth watching he raced Button in a Civic Type R as well I think?
I for one also cannot understand how can you claim the world's fastest production car (not made in a shed) is dull? I am sure that most people here would crap their pants if given a proper passenger ride in that, and for myself am sure that me driving it flat out to the speed limit will most definitely rival any other exhilaration that I've ever experienced (and will) in my life.
This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
dvance said:
I for one also cannot understand how can you claim the world's fastest production car (not made in a shed) is dull? I am sure that most people here would crap their pants if given a proper passenger ride in that, and for myself am sure that me driving it flat out to the speed limit will most definitely rival any other exhilaration that I've ever experienced (and will) in my life.
This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
haven't you read anything? It's missing a "something"... No idea what that something is.This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
Porkie said:
Thanks Tony. You are correct, it was actually the Honda I was referring to. At silverstone... in the COLD!
he raced Button in a Civic Type R as well I think?
Yes that's right. He did also drive the Jaguar a few years before that (2003 maybe?!) at a track in Spain (can't recall where).he raced Button in a Civic Type R as well I think?
dvance said:
I for one also cannot understand how can you claim the world's fastest production car (not made in a shed) is dull? I am sure that most people here would crap their pants if given a proper passenger ride in that, and for myself am sure that me driving it flat out to the speed limit will most definitely rival any other exhilaration that I've ever experienced (and will) in my life.
This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
+1This car is an unprecedented example of what engineering can achieve. It's on the level of the space shuttle (as someone already mentioned). I literally get excited thinking about how well engineered it is. In my mind you really do have to be ignorant and dull to pass this car on as anything else but the pinnacle of car engineering.
No it's rubbish. It's not as good as an f1, a smurf blue f1. In fact just like that bloke on here. I'd love an f1 like that , exactly like that. Maybe if I say enough nice things about the f1, flemke will give me a lift in it and we can meet Gordon murray and we can all be bestest friends.
harryowl said:
Blue Meanie said:
BILL PAYER said:
Blue Meanie said:
BILL PAYER said:
Patrick Bateman said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...
Utterly wrong. Just absolutely completely hopelessly wrong. Sorry chap, try one and let me know your thoughts afterwards.
ZeeTacoe said:
BILL PAYER said:
ZeeTacoe said:
BILL PAYER said:
Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play
Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.Oh and have some of these ''''
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