Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 6]

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Forgive the multiple postings. I'm bed-bound after a knee op yesterday. Without PH I'd be going insane!

[harry kular]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Forgive the multiple postings. I'm bed-bound after a knee op yesterday. Without PH I'd be going insane!

Would you mind posting up a few pics of your a124 if you're free??

[MJK 24]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

MJK 24 said:

This is actually mine!
What do we think of the price? I'm getting more inclined to keep it with each passing day!

I think that looks decent, especially with the work that's been done. The price seems entirely reasonable to me. I'm after an estate, but if it was a saloon I needed I'd be all over it.

I am beginning to think I may regret selling the car and perhaps consider keeping it. They'll not be making any more and I really like the colours.

[lowdrag]

E65Ross said:

Not massively far from me if anyone wants me to have a look of they're genuinely interested.

Tempted just to have a look myself and see what the fuss is about

No aircon or cruise it seems though. Not for me.

[BGarside]

mickyveloce said:

I've owned 12v 300, 24v 280 and 24v 300, and all are different.

300-24 would be my choice of them all for its character and performance. Add to this that it's the most economical, and its a winner.

The head gasket thing is a bit of a red herring, specialists on here report the problem is over reported, but regular oil changes are important. All seep a little oil at the front of the block, but not enough to be an issue.

Best of the lot us the 3.6 24v which has uprated AMG gaskets etc, but strangely I don't think it would suit the r129 chassis.

I've been considering a 6-cylinder W124 but, having test-driven a 300-24, I figured a power band starting at over 5,000 revs wouldn't really be much use to me as I wouldn't thrash an old engine that hard to access the extra power.

Have not driven the 12v 300 yet, but I'm afraid it might feel a bit slow, with only 177hp (reduced from original 188 on early W124s), a high torque peak (around 4400rpm?) and an autobox which starts in second gear anyway.

Also, is the 12v engine not equally, susceptible to head gasket failure at around the 100k mark?

I assume the economy of these older engines is worse than the later 2.8 and 3.2 with EFI?

Seems to me the best engine is the 3.2, as it develops more torque at lower revs than the older engines and can be had with the 5-speed auto. Obviously requiring wiring loom to be sorted....

[CharlesdeGaulle]

harry kular said:

Would you mind posting up a few pics of your a124 if you're free??

I'd be glad to, but it'll have to be later as they're on the desktop. Are you interested in them?

[harry kular]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

I'd be glad to, but it'll have to be later as they're on the desktop. Are you interested in them?

Thanks,
I'm interested in all things 124! Seriously considered the a124 but bought an sl500, as it was such good value. Gorgeous, gorgeous cars.

[AudiWurst]

Shivit said:

What's the main Bork potential on these (early W220). At that price, it looks mighty tempting.

Rust, Airmatic suspension, electrics...

[olly755]

harry kular said:

Gents, why hasn't this sold yet? Is it really, really overpriced?

The right engine, good spec, great history, change the clear front indicators back and job done!

http://www.johnhaynesmercedes.co.uk/mercedes-for-s...

LS430 just sold, and I like that. A lot.

The velour does it for me too.

Given that heated leather is hardly common, is heated cloth a rarity or a misprint?

[BGarside]

anonymous said:

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Will have to test drive one I guess. Coming from a diesel with 300 lb ft. at 2000rpm will require some adjustment.

I'd prefer a pre-facelift car for the looks and better quality but the later EFI engines would be torquier and more suited to LPG conversion if I find a 'keeper'.

[E65Ross]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

harry kular said:

Would you mind posting up a few pics of your a124 if you're free??

I'd be glad to, but it'll have to be later as they're on the desktop. Are you interested in them?

I'd be interested in seeing some pics too....

Uh oh, I'm turning

[bmthnick1981]

mickyveloce said:

Best of the lot us the 3.6 24v which has uprated AMG gaskets etc, but strangely I don't think it would suit the r129 chassis.

If this is the lump they put in the w202 c36 I must agree, it's a cracking engine.

I think someone here is slowly putting one in a R107.

[bmthnick1981]

r129sl said:

Did you see how much this went for?

£3,666!

Doesn't half cheer me up.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331158550760?ssPageName=...

I don't wish to be psessimistic but that almost seems like it went for too much! I wonder if it has sold or will be re-listed? Certainly lots of bidding activity with 47 bids...

[slippery]

Might just be me, but the last place I want to see photos taken of a slightly crusty XJS, is by the sea!
They are a beautiful looking car though.

[slippery]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

E65Ross said:

harry kular said:

for those who liked MTSVs 300E, how about this one? A lovely colour combination:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C487706#



eta. it's got the wrong 15-holes on, easy to find replacements

Edited by harry kular on Wednesday 2nd April 12:51

Not massively far from me if anyone wants me to have a look of they're genuinely interested.

Tempted just to have a look myself and see what the fuss is about

That's a private sale, but I have seen almost the exact ad wording in the intro before recently. Poss a C&P, but poss not all it appears?

Looks nice. Not as nice as the green one, but at half the price it looks pretty damn good.

[E65Ross]

slippery said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

E65Ross said:

harry kular said:

for those who liked MTSVs 300E, how about this one? A lovely colour combination:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C487706#



eta. it's got the wrong 15-holes on, easy to find replacements

Edited by harry kular on Wednesday 2nd April 12:51

Not massively far from me if anyone wants me to have a look of they're genuinely interested.

Tempted just to have a look myself and see what the fuss is about

That's a private sale, but I have seen almost the exact ad wording in the intro before recently. Poss a C&P, but poss not all it appears?

Looks nice. Not as nice as the green one, but at half the price it looks pretty damn good.

Indeed, looks nice but prefer the green one.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

E65Ross said:

Indeed, looks nice but prefer the green one.

We've done it. We've given you the bug! You're forever hooked chum.

[harry kular]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

E65Ross said:

Indeed, looks nice but prefer the green one.

We've done it. We've given you the bug! You're forever hooked chum.

[mickyveloce]

BGarside, you need to test drive the 300-24. If I can draw an analogy to contemporary VW engines, the Mercedes multi valve is nothing like the peaky delivery of the mark 2 Golf GTI 16v. Its a muscular free-revving unit that is more eager and more vocal than the later 320.

In my experience it's better on fuel too, but my 300-24 has the 5-speed auto, which may help.

The 3.6 is the ultimate Merc straight 6 for me, especially in the (comparatively) light weight C36.

[E65Ross]

harry kular said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

E65Ross said:

Indeed, looks nice but prefer the green one.

We've done it. We've given you the bug! You're forever hooked chum.

I've always said I've had a soft spot for Mercs in general of this era, as well as the W126 and later W140.....but I'll conceed the W124 has grown on me more and more because of this thread. I've spent thousands of miles as a passenger and also a driver of an old 190e 2.0 which was nice but didn't think it was anything amazing, is the W124 really much of a step up? That said, it wasn't the finest example.

Now I just need to go and try one. I'm worried that they'll feel hideously slow and noisy compared to both the E38 and especially E65. I do absolutely love the elegance of the interiors though, modern interiors just don't have that lovely simplicity.

I guess, in supercar terms, that's why I really quite like the McLaren 12C and it's interior.....it's just.....well, nice and simple but purposeful

I'm really tempted to view that W124! It's about 30mins away from where I work....