The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

[Chicane-UK]

saaby93 said:

I'll go with the Insignia either made a mistake or was an idiot
The TT was only ever an idiot
The cam car ditto

However can anyone here say they've never been caught up in that type of situation?
Whoever casts the first stone had better be able to afford a new greenhouse

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 10th July 10:16

I don't buy it myself. I'm more than willing to bet, especially if they have a kid sitting on a lap in the car, they're locals and they know full well. I used to routinely have the same cars push in front of me at a roundabout I used to patiently queue for day in, day out. Some people are just selfish pricks.

[heebeegeetee]

SpeedMattersNot said:

Say you've got a road with parked cars either side for as far as the eye can see, on a 30 mph road. Do you crawl along checking the gaps between each car? We've already established 'kids will be kids' and what's to say a 10 year old wouldn't have their headphones in listening to 50 pence and not think twice about running out between two parked cars? Is the fact it hasn't occurred on a zebra crossing make this OK?

That is a completely different situation, and not at all relevant.

Try this analogy: Every time i drive from my premises, my view of the road is partially blocked by parked cars.

So do I edge out very slowly, and only pull out into the road when I can see it is safe to do so; or do I just pull out regardless, and blame any ensuing collision on the parked cars blocking my view?

[SpeedMattersNot]

heebeegeetee said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

Say you've got a road with parked cars either side for as far as the eye can see, on a 30 mph road. Do you crawl along checking the gaps between each car? We've already established 'kids will be kids' and what's to say a 10 year old wouldn't have their headphones in listening to 50 pence and not think twice about running out between two parked cars? Is the fact it hasn't occurred on a zebra crossing make this OK?

That is a completely different situation, and not at all relevant.

Why? I know it is different, but it's not completely different. You still only have one car width to drive down with no visibility between the gaps in the cars.

The only difference between that and your analogy is that you don't have priority exiting your premises. The danger and risk is very much the same regarding pedestrians.

[NoNeed]

heebeegeetee said:

That is a completely different situation, and not at all relevant.

Try this analogy: Every time i drive from my premises, my view of the road is partially blocked by parked cars.

So do I edge out very slowly, and only pull out into the road when I can see it is safe to do so; or do I just pull out regardless, and blame any ensuing collision on the parked cars blocking my view?

Who would you blame for the collision that happens when you are edging out very slowly?

[Dave200]

kev1974 said:

Loads of places in London where similar happens. Putney Bridge, the entrance to the Rotherhithe Tunnel, several on the A1 towards Borehamwood. I just let them get on with it, and enjoy my lower blood pressure. The TT driver was an idiot, should have just let the arrogant Insignia tosser have the space, the tiny victory simply isn't worth the hassle and higher insurance if the two cars end up smashing together. He may well need tracking redoing now depending how hard he bumped up the kerb, that's £40 wasted.

This.

I barely do 8k miles a year, mostly in Central London. But if I got angry/aggressive every time something like this happened, I would consider it a massive waste of my time and energy.

[budgie smuggler]

saaby93 said:

I'll go with the Insignia either made a mistake or was an idiot
The TT was only ever an idiot
The cam car ditto

However can anyone here say they've never been caught up in that type of situation?
Whoever casts the first stone had better be able to afford a new greenhouse

TT's actions are much more excusable to me. They've seen red after the perceived slight of being 'queue jumped', as opposed to the calculated actions of the Insignia. Further confirmed by the way it continues to try and force it's way in front of the orange car once the conflict has started. If it had been a genuine mistake I would think they would have whacked the indicator on and tucked into the space behind it.

[heebeegeetee]

NoNeed said:

Who would you blame for the collision that happens when you are edging out very slowly?

I don't think there would be a collision unless I did something wrong.

[Blakewater]

Pegscratch said:

Blaster72 said:

Well, I thought the TT driver was a moron in this case. Speeding up to prevent the Insignia getting ahead. Stupid and careless, the Insignia driver was an idiot but the whole incident would have been a non event if the TT had just let them in.

And pricks would continue to believe that they could behave like pricks.

The police don't give a crap about this stuff, whilst I don't suggest being a prize plum like the TT was I'd be less sympathetic if the police actually did something about this rather than washing their hands of it, and just about anything else they can get away with.

The local police have been specifically targeting people passing the queue and pushing in at the front at this junction.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11812736..._Selfishmotorists_caught_queue_jumping_on_M65_warned_by_police/?ref=mr

It would still benefit from the lanes being signposted straight on and right turn only from the bottom of the dual carriageway as those who don't know the road could make a genuine mistake and find themselves stuck in the wrong lane at best and given an antisocial driving order at worst. We all make mistakes, I accidentally gained a place in a queue over a van driver when I found myself in a lane in Liverpool that was disappearing down a ramp into a car park for the Liverpool One shopping centre. People are so quick to assume someone trying to change lanes is deliberately trying to put one over on them you can't always hope that indicating and waiting will result in someone being benevolent, so asserting yourself when you see a gap is sometimes the only alternative to blocking traffic or going the wrong way and getting lost. The Insignia driver in this video was aggressive from the outset though, despite what appears to be a hippie peace symbol on the tailgate, and no one making a genuine error would be so determined to get one car ahead like that and would have happily slotted into the gap behind the Audi.

The other possibility is some dispute had gone on before and the Insignia driver had seen the conspicuous orange Audi in the traffic queue and was going for an "honour overtake" to restore his ego.

[Gary C]

It's very easy to condem the tt driver for their aggressive response, but it's harder to not initially respond with "your not coming in here!" Especially for young men.

No training is given, no exposure to the consequences.

We have a two lane into one lane section, it's been signposted with a "merge in turn" sign but almost every day there is some agro there. Saw a bus driver last week swerve approx 1/2 a meter to the right causing the car in the right hand lane to physically jump in fright, to cars racing up and cutting in at the last minute, to a lorry deciding to close the gap at the merge point and hit a car up the rear, to local lorry drivers sitting astride both lanes to block.

I've even let cars past me when the car behind has refused to merge in turn then both have got into "I'm having that place battle"

Am I totally guilt free ?, of course not but as I have got older I realise it's not going to end well and let it go. It's something that needs to be covered in driver training, including showing the consequences.

[Spanna]

ETA: found it on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/q8ctCM1hy6k

Needs licence revoking, Jesus wept.

Edited by Spanna on Saturday 11th July 12:08

[R_U_LOCAL]

Spanna said:

ETA: found it on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/q8ctCM1hy6k

Needs licence revoking, Jesus wept.

Edited by Spanna on Saturday 11th July 12:08

These people are out there.

And they're out to get you.

[anonymous-user]

R_U_LOCAL said:

These people are out there.

And they're out to get you.

i think she knew what she was doing missed turn and did what we see.

[heebeegeetee]

The Spruce goose said:

i think she knew what she was doing missed turn and did what we see.

I know that area well and I think you're right. Hopefully, she was mental enough to turn round on a slip road but not enough to drive the A5 on the wrong side of the road.

[matchmaker]

R_U_LOCAL said:

Spanna said:

ETA: found it on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/q8ctCM1hy6k

Needs licence revoking, Jesus wept.

Edited by Spanna on Saturday 11th July 12:08

These people are out there.

And they're out to get you.

Like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK9-Ikcu0sY

Didn't go well for her:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...

BBC said:

A woman who admitted driving the wrong way down the slip road of a busy dual carriageway and crashing into two lorries has been fined and banned.

Shazida Begum was captured on camera by a device fitted in one of the lorries and the footage on YouTube has been watched more than 2.4 million times.

The crashes happened in March on the A90 Aberdeen to Stonehaven road.

Begum, 21, was fined £700 and banned from driving for two years at Aberdeen Sheriff Court.

[bp1000]

she was lucky to survive

what a stupid ****

[saaby93]

bp1000 said:

she was lucky to survive

what a stupid ****

It wasn't completely her fault (these things arent usually completly one or the other) theyve changed the road now too

bbc said:

Defence agent Chris Maitland told the court Begum had missed signs indicating that the road was changing from a dual to a single carriageway and entered the slip road the wrong way.

He said 'no entry' signs had since been erected at the spot.

He said: "The first she became aware of her mistake was when the two lorries were directly in her path. She has then reacted in a panic

[Spanna]

heebeegeetee said:

The Spruce goose said:

i think she knew what she was doing missed turn and did what we see.

I know that area well and I think you're right. Hopefully, she was mental enough to turn round on a slip road but not enough to drive the A5 on the wrong side of the road.

I live in Tamworth and often use that slip road, initially spotted the clip of FB but the YouTube version is way higher res. I'd have to agree, I believe she took the wrong exit on the slip, dod a U-turn on the slip to take the other carriageway. There's an island not half a mile away down there to turn around at.

You often see people positioning themselves for an overtake up there and taking the corner wide for lane 2, she was lucky not to cause a head on smash IMO.

[Vipers]

bp1000 said:

she was lucky to survive

what a stupid ****

She hadn't been driving long, had already rear ended a Beemer, (her sister worked where I did, and I got this from her), she broke a nail, and boasted at college that's all she did.

Imagine that in rush hour, total carnage. The only defence was that the slip road had no "No entry" signs on, it does now, even so, what a tit.

The link said "The car then crashes head-on into the front of another lorry on the northbound lane of the dual carriageway.", no it didn't crash head on, she wouldn't have walked away from that. She owes her life to the trucker who swerved out of her way.

Edited by Vipers on Saturday 11th July 16:50

[R_U_LOCAL]

saaby93 said:

It wasn't completely her fault

Yes it was.

[saaby93]

R_U_LOCAL said:

saaby93 said:

It wasn't completely her fault

Yes it was.

There may be a few more signs and road markings



Last time we looked at it, if you follow previous instructions to keep to the right hand side of this carriageway to head north you end up going up the off slip and finding the previously mentioned truck.
yes it's unlikely now
(but still not impossible if you're determined)
Don't they normally arrange slips so it cant happen?

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 11th July 18:18