RE: Driven: Toyota GT 86
Discussion
anything fast said:
sorry but a big fail for me...
cars like the 2nd gen nissan 200sx would tear this a new asshole whithout any mods... and they were better value
looks fookin ugly from the back and the wheels look lost in the arches...
S14's unmodded were a little soft in the corners and were in the mid 20's over 10 years ago so would easily cost 28k now?cars like the 2nd gen nissan 200sx would tear this a new asshole whithout any mods... and they were better value
looks fookin ugly from the back and the wheels look lost in the arches...
Dave Hedgehog said:
Sounds fantastic
Problem I would have is the real world performance, your going to spend most of your life with mid sized German oil burners, modern hot hatches and "barry" cars (chipped fiests ST's and Corsa VXR's)glued to your back bumper
The local barrys are the main reason I have sold my R32 DSG, low 6's 0-60s just do not cut it any more
Life isn't a motor race....... Since when was a sub 6 second 0-60 necessary?Problem I would have is the real world performance, your going to spend most of your life with mid sized German oil burners, modern hot hatches and "barry" cars (chipped fiests ST's and Corsa VXR's)glued to your back bumper
The local barrys are the main reason I have sold my R32 DSG, low 6's 0-60s just do not cut it any more
anything fast said:
OK, that looks very nice, but any car looks nice lowered with decent wheels, bet its still got tacky lexus lights on the back
Smoke em like people do on the new Subarusanything fast said:
and it still has less power than most hot hatchbacks...
not the point of the car.
300bhp/ton said:
andrewparker said:
Before you accuse me of not understanding this car - I do. I just fear the torque figure is a little low for decent real world performance.
Eh?Not sure I follow.
A shed load of people have never experienced a light weight quick NA car so have no idea how to make a car go quickly without torque to help it on its merry way.
Another load of people have treat as gospel the thinly veiled marketing speak trotted out by journalists who speak of real world performance when describing torquey cars, often comparing cooking cars mid range figures to those of a Boxster S.
vz-r_dave said:
People seem to forget that the AE86 was an introduction to RWD. This car is going to give so many of us in a few years cheap access to safe, reliable RWD. It really is a master piece. Thank you Toyota/Subaru you have just opened up a new market of which I believe others will follow.
This +++(And take note Mr Ford, who keep refusing to make a 'new' rwd 'modern' Capri, as they say there simply isn't a market for such a car anymore
)aeropilot said:
vz-r_dave said:
People seem to forget that the AE86 was an introduction to RWD. This car is going to give so many of us in a few years cheap access to safe, reliable RWD. It really is a master piece. Thank you Toyota/Subaru you have just opened up a new market of which I believe others will follow.
This +++(And take note Mr Ford, who keep refusing to make a 'new' rwd 'modern' Capri, as they say there simply isn't a market for such a car anymore
)I know PH does like it's shiny new dealer-cars, but....
I was rather liking the idea, until I thought; what does this offer over a 200sx (s14a, lets say, as they're pretty
) with say £8k of suspension/engine refresh/etc?
Not quite as nice inside and presumably not as many 'safety features' for a similar weight.
[edit - ah, 200sx already been mentioned it seems.]
But, yes, I'm one that would like my new cars to offer something new over the old cars. While for instance BMW hasn't managed to get and more power per cc out of the M3 so far (turbos will of course change things), they have made the car faster over the years.
Not the point, maybe.
I was rather liking the idea, until I thought; what does this offer over a 200sx (s14a, lets say, as they're pretty
) with say £8k of suspension/engine refresh/etc?Not quite as nice inside and presumably not as many 'safety features' for a similar weight.
[edit - ah, 200sx already been mentioned it seems.]
But, yes, I'm one that would like my new cars to offer something new over the old cars. While for instance BMW hasn't managed to get and more power per cc out of the M3 so far (turbos will of course change things), they have made the car faster over the years.
Not the point, maybe.
Edited by _g_ on Saturday 3rd December 13:01
cossey said:
I have talked to 3 and none of them are expecting more than 10-15 per year so 4000 may be a bit high. The order book is open at Toyota UK though.
The dealer I just ordered mine from this morning ( 
) has been told they will get 6 for the first 12 months, (same stock levels they received as their last new Prius model) Maybe some garages (city?) getting a few more to sell? 
but can't see 4000 being available. 
StormLoaded said:
The dealer I just ordered mine from this morning ( ) has been told they will get 6 for the first 12 months, (same stock levels they received as their last new Prius model) Maybe some garages (city?) getting a few more to sell? but can't see 4000 being available.
Have you ordered it without trying it? ) has been told they will get 6 for the first 12 months, (same stock levels they received as their last new Prius model) Maybe some garages (city?) getting a few more to sell? but can't see 4000 being available. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff