RE: Ford Mustang GT: Driven

[mikey k]

Quinny said:

Thankyou4calling said:

I wonder how many of the Mustangs that hit UK shores will be V8 versions?

I'd guess not that many.

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When I placed my order, the dealer told me that all other orders that had been place with him were for V8's.......nobody as yet had ordered an ecoboost

Good lad
I might try and wangle one as my next company car when the M135i goes

[xRIEx]

Centurion07 said:

xRIEx said:

900T-R said:

That's twice as expensive as the 4-cyl Ecoboost version (yours for 55,xxx euro) which in the real world probably won't be much more frugal.

Not sure about that, I reckon high teens/low 20s for the V8 and high 20s/low 30s for the Ecoboost - if that is the case, it's 50% better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGgaThH0xc 28.5mpg US is 34.5 imperial.


http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-2015-ford-mustang...

jalopnik said:

However, unlike the GT, which struggled to break 14 MPG during the morning's thrashings, the Ecoboost managed 21 MPG through some fitful flogging.

When you say "real world", go and ask some RS Focus owners what kind of mpg they get with a smallish capacity turbo engine in a relatively small car.

The Ecoboost version is not going to be a million miles away from the V8 in "real world" terms i.e. regular driving with a little blat here and there.

Mid to high 20's for the Ecoboost, at best.

So that 6 year old engine (or older, I assume it's the Volvo 5 cylinder, which was from 2003 according to Wiki) hasn't been bettered at all? This is a brand new engine, so I assume they've made some progress in the last 12 years given the emission-obsessed legislation we all know and love know.

The guy in the video got 34.5, although that was a reasonable amount of highway (and possibly 55mph speed limit). Of course it's going to depend on driving style, but like for like (as experienced by the Jalopnik journos) I think there's going to be a reasonable gap. In fact, that test article is probably a good gauge because they were probably driving similarly (similar pace, keeping in convoy, same roads, getting to try both cars).

Admittedly, I expect most owners are going to let the cars stretch their legs from time to time, but again like for like (V8 owners are going to too), I can't imagine there won't be a significant proportional difference. If there wasn't, then we wouldn't be experiencing the downsizing hysteria we currently see because if a 5 litre 412bhp (or 435) NA V8 can give similar mpg to a 2.3l 310bhp turbocharged I4, what would be the point to downsizing?

[daz05]

unsprung said:

You didn't correct anything you made some assumptions and came across like someone who wanted to censor the sharing of a couple of negative points aimed to help others who haven't had the opportunity to actually use one on a daily basis. Forums are about sharing experiences and opinions. The brand new car I was given had excessive wind noise and loose trim, in several places that to me equates to a quality problem. The previous model seemed to be better put together.

Is it really that confusing? Quite simply, I liked it, it's almost what I wanted but it's not going to be the car I want it to be.

Edited by daz05 on Monday 11th May 14:17

[unsprung]

daz05 said:

unsprung said:

You didn't correct anything you made some assumptions and came across like someone who wanted to censor the sharing of a couple of negative points aimed to help others who haven't had the opportunity to actually use one on a daily basis. Forums are about sharing experiences and opinions. The brand new car I was given had excessive wind noise and loose trim, in several places that to me equates to a quality problem. The previous model seemed to be better put together.

Is it really that confusing? Quite simply, I liked it, it's almost what I wanted but it's not going to be the car I want it to be.

Edited by daz05 on Monday 11th May 14:17

You're repeating yourself, Jeremy.

[daz05]

I don't have a job anymore what do you expect. I was hoping you would up your game to compensate.

[unsprung]

daz05 said:

I don't have a job anymore what do you expect. I was hoping you would up your game to compensate.

With a skilful wielding of irony, like the preceding, it looks like I had better see about getting us a steak supper.

[moffat]

20.9mpg.... I previously owned a C63 which had an official average of 23.6mpg.... this thing won't get more than 13-15mpg with normal driving. That's pitiful in this day and age. Even the new C63 has a new average of 33mpg.

Looks great though and looking forward to seeing one in the flesh soon.

[smashy]

If I wasnt on 30k a year id have this ,fantastic value,who remembers many years ago Clive Sutton Dealership of st johns wood London converting Mustangs to right hand all in for £35k

[Skater12]

PH'ers will always want to go and opt for a manual over an american slush-box, unless a decent dual-cluth system comes in time.

I've driven a number of 'stangs over the years during visits to the US and based on those experieces i'd actually go for an auto over a manual.
This of course is only if you've opted for the 5.0 V8. Good 'ol boys style.

[Centurion07]

moffat said:

Even the new C63 has a new average of 33mpg.

It also costs roughly £25K more too.

Give me a new Mustang and £25K to spend on fuel over a C63 any day.

[gt750boy]

I've hired the convertible 2.3l EcoBoost while in the US. I was raised on a diet of American muscle cars. This Mustang is a horrible vehicle. Only the Americans could take what should be a fizzy, powerful, efficient motor and make it boring, petrol guzzling, and slow. This car couldn't pull the skin off a custard. When I picked it up at Avis the car was brand new out of the box, so the engine isn't tired.

There is a Sport mode on the automatic cars. When you drop the gear selector down to S you can then select Sport along with Sport+, Track, etc..

In anything other than Normal mode it holds onto revs, and turbo boost, after you lift off. This is very disconcerting the first time it occurs and becomes increasingly annoying as it happens again and again. In Track mode it is all too easy to break the rear end loose with minimal power, so if that's your thing I suppose there is a redeeming feature. The steering provides no feel other than weight when in its Sport mode. In comfort it feels completely disconnected, along with a nostalgic 10-15 degrees of slop before any change of direction.

The leather interior is of a surprisingly acceptable quality, but I just can't get comfortable in the drivers seat. After a half hour of driving I find that I have rotated clockwise in the seat and need to readjust. Despite early success in wirelessly connecting my phone as a media player there is now a steadfast resolve from the Mustang to use feature of my handset other thanks the phone. This happened only after the built in satellite radio was activated.

I could talk about both long and short trips in the Mustang, but this is such a disappointing and uninspiring car, on so many levels, that this would really serve no purpose other than kicking a dead horse.

To be fair, I have not yet driven the V8 version. Many of this car's issues are related to the flaccid power train, so one would hope that the more powerful version better delivers on the promise of lineage, but somehow I think the flaws run too deep for an engine upgrade to resolve.

[Quinny]

Skater12 said:

PH'ers will always want to go and opt for a manual over an american slush-box, unless a decent dual-cluth system comes in time.

I've driven a number of 'stangs over the years during visits to the US and based on those experieces i'd actually go for an auto over a manual.
This of course is only if you've opted for the 5.0 V8. Good 'ol boys style.

I've gone for the auto, due to having had a left knee replacement and now needing the right one doing....can still drive a manual, but not ideal, in stop go traffic......I'm hoping this will be a long term ownership, and thought why not make life a bit easier for myself

I shall be ordering my Borla, ford racing touring system soon, so I can get it fitted as soon as the car arrives.....later plans may include an SC further down the road

[matt_knowles]

Mustangs are awesome, and the new one looks ace. They are ten a penny over here in Dubai, but they'll look brilliant on the UK roads.

I needed a family friendly muscle car so went for the below. Not bad for £28k!

[Ian_UK1]

I really see this new, RHD V8 Mustang as the perfect, 21st century, spiritual successor to the Capri 3.0S/2.8i: a type/class of car Ford Europe abandoned a long time ago. (And a very appropriate successor, given the original Capri's styling was always referred-to as 'mini-Mustang'). Great to see the return of the simple, big-engined, stylish, affordable, easy to maintain, easy to modify, affordable coupe.

Well done Ford for finally producing the car in RHD and importing it to the UK.

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Monday 11th May 17:44

[matt_knowles]

Mustangs are awesome, and the new one looks ace. They are ten a penny over here in Dubai, but they'll look brilliant on the UK roads.

I needed a family friendly muscle car so went for the below. Not bad for £28k!

[croyde]

matt_knowles said:

Mustangs are awesome, and the new one looks ace. They are ten a penny over here in Dubai, but they'll look brilliant on the UK roads.

I needed a family friendly muscle car so went for the below. Not bad for £28k!

I wanted one of those since the 2011 came out but the few that are here cost a bomb and are not RHD. Would be great as my little brood are not so little anymore and will suffer in the back of the Mustang.

[Fartgalen]

I easily get 28 uk mpg out of my 5.0 2012 GT with mixed driving. 35 on the motorway/taking it easy.

[HeMightBeBanned]

RobinOakapple said:

Steering wheel is on the wrong side...

Do you live on the moon?

[headrush]

If ever there was a car that's lost it's visual mojo this is it. It'll only stand out from all the other visually sanitised V8 middle management mobiles via garish colours and possibly an exhaust bypass flap. Gash.

[daz05]

unsprung said:

With a skilful wielding of irony, like the preceding, it looks like I had better see about getting us a steak supper.