RE: Tech Details: New Morgan Threewheeler
Discussion
AeroMan said:
GLLHG said:
As Boshly pointed out, it's a bit unfair to compare without an equally close look at the MMC offering- and that's something I'm looking forward to doing asap
Cheers
G
Like you G, I'm a long time Triking fan, but I'll order a Morgan 3-wheeler as I like the heritage and the fact that they did not go for sliding-pillar front suspension.Cheers
G
I look forward to seeing your respective 3-wheeler critique in due course.
Not a problem. Order yours and when it arrives let me have it for a week. I'll try it out on some appropriate Welsh roads I know and give you a full written report. Good deal huh?
Cheers,
G
.... speaking of desirable/cool 3 wheel urban transport, does anyone know what ever became of this? as i understand it the idea started life in holland as a 'carver one', then seemed to emmigrate to the USA to become a 'venture one' and the latest info i am able to find relates to a 'persu mobility' hybrid. the downfall of the carver seemed to be that it cost £45k 
... can't imagine why they didn't sell any?! the americans then seemed to be promising something that cost £15k-ish with improved looks (picture). now .... no sign of a real vehicle anywhere.as usual with this type of product, all you ever seem to get are press releases and promises - it's always 'next year'. why can't someone actually produce something?! - surely there's a big enough demand? if it was this cool and cost around £6-8k i would have one in an instant - for commuting purposes if nothing else.
hey-ho, such is life .....
Bill said:
Bigblock427 said:
Well i think this new Morgan threewheeler will look very close to the Ace Cycle Car, which is built under license from Morgan 3-Wheelers Ltd in the USA.
Clearly, given it's Morgan's design and they're restarting manufacture themselves.
But being serious the "new" Morgan 3 wheeler is based on the US built Ace Cycle Car Company's Liberty Ace which is as you say a copy licensed by Morgan.
Edited by Agent Orange on Friday 5th November 19:49
GLLHG said:
AeroMan said:
GLLHG said:
As Boshly pointed out, it's a bit unfair to compare without an equally close look at the MMC offering- and that's something I'm looking forward to doing asap
Cheers
G
Like you G, I'm a long time Triking fan, but I'll order a Morgan 3-wheeler as I like the heritage and the fact that they did not go for sliding-pillar front suspension.Cheers
G
I look forward to seeing your respective 3-wheeler critique in due course.
Not a problem. Order yours and when it arrives let me have it for a week. I'll try it out on some appropriate Welsh roads I know and give you a full written report. Good deal huh?
Cheers,
G
B;)
Interesting, but definitely nothing to do with emissions, etc or they would have gone for an efficient Jap engine instead of a Yank lump. A V-twin gives more torque per BHP than a four banger but a high-revving 1.8 Toyota engine like the one in the Exige would sound better (gurgling away with the stumpy pipe), would give almost twice the power with no mods and be more more efficient than the V-twin.
There's other three wheelers at keener prices that look better than this one but it will still sell well cos it's a Morgan. Go figure!
To the person who mentioned about the tyre width hampering 0-60... If the driven wheel is at the rear we don't know how wide it is. Also, Look at the biking world and see that it's often the compound of the tyre, not the width, that has the biggest effect on launches on such light vehicles!
We'd need to see torque figures to get a better picture of what the 0-60 could be but my mildly tweaked Honda V-twin bike can manage a shade less than 0-60 at a shade over 100bhp so it's definitely possible.
There's other three wheelers at keener prices that look better than this one but it will still sell well cos it's a Morgan. Go figure!
To the person who mentioned about the tyre width hampering 0-60... If the driven wheel is at the rear we don't know how wide it is. Also, Look at the biking world and see that it's often the compound of the tyre, not the width, that has the biggest effect on launches on such light vehicles!
We'd need to see torque figures to get a better picture of what the 0-60 could be but my mildly tweaked Honda V-twin bike can manage a shade less than 0-60 at a shade over 100bhp so it's definitely possible.AeroMan said:
GLLHG said:
AeroMan said:
GLLHG said:
As Boshly pointed out, it's a bit unfair to compare without an equally close look at the MMC offering- and that's something I'm looking forward to doing asap
Cheers
G
Like you G, I'm a long time Triking fan, but I'll order a Morgan 3-wheeler as I like the heritage and the fact that they did not go for sliding-pillar front suspension.Cheers
G
I look forward to seeing your respective 3-wheeler critique in due course.
Not a problem. Order yours and when it arrives let me have it for a week. I'll try it out on some appropriate Welsh roads I know and give you a full written report. Good deal huh?
Cheers,
G
B;)
I ain't shipping it to Lagos!!
. Are you sorted for the visit on 22nd?regards,
G
GLLHG said:
B,
I ain't shipping it to Lagos!!. Are you sorted for the visit on 22nd?
regards,
G
G,I ain't shipping it to Lagos!!
. Are you sorted for the visit on 22nd?regards,
G
A great red-herring my learned friend!
What's happened to the Gin visit?Unfortunately can't make the 22nd, dealing with another Morgan that week - www.morganspomade.co.uk/
Cheers
B
AeroMan said:
GLLHG said:
B,
I ain't shipping it to Lagos!!. Are you sorted for the visit on 22nd?
regards,
G
G,I ain't shipping it to Lagos!!
. Are you sorted for the visit on 22nd?regards,
G
A great red-herring my learned friend!
What's happened to the Gin visit?Unfortunately can't make the 22nd, dealing with another Morgan that week - www.morganspomade.co.uk/
Cheers
B
Ah, I spot a fast- moving consumer product on the horizon!
I've been a bit remiss on the Gin visit. Russel P offered to act as go-between ( as you know he has strong links with them) but initially he couldn't get hold of the guy who could have set it up for us and since then I've not been in contact with Russel.
I'll e-mail him this week and see what current state of play is.
Shame about the 22nd- I'm busy reading all my 'how to be on your best behaviour books'
regards
G
Edited by GLLHG on Sunday 7th November 14:19
I admire Morgan's balls for putting this out these days. I've no doubt there is a ready market for the trike, although how much reworking they do over the ACE version to 're-Morganise' it, I don't know.
The ACE price starts at around £30k, presumably for the 80hp version, So I'd expect the Morgan to be around £35k at least.
As a non-biker, I can see the appeal of this to people who might want a bike type experience, reliability and I'd guess fairly bulletproof residuals. It could prove a very cost effective vehicle to own.
It's a thumbs up from me.
The ACE price starts at around £30k, presumably for the 80hp version, So I'd expect the Morgan to be around £35k at least.
As a non-biker, I can see the appeal of this to people who might want a bike type experience, reliability and I'd guess fairly bulletproof residuals. It could prove a very cost effective vehicle to own.
It's a thumbs up from me.
bennno said:
3 Wheeler ordered, now just the next few months to kill.....
BH
Good man BH
that makes 5 that I know of on here, any more?I will go back through the thread and see if there are any more.
As of last weeks factory visit (and 3W presentation -wow!!) there were/are 67 fully paid up deposits and over 2000 letters of interest!
Its utterly brilliant and inspired. It looks like the original car, but will drive more like a modern.
My brother owns an original JAP engined 3 wheeler, and they are far and away the best of the 20's cycle cars, with your arse 2" off the tarmac, 1/4 of a tirn lock to lock, pin sharp steering. At 100mph it is the most exciting car you ve ever driven !
The harley V twin will sound wonderful, and give great driving feel with lumpy firing impulses and lots of torque.
To compare it with the Grinnall is missing the point...it wont be a state of the art track day thing, but a great "tooling about" car.
Inspiration 10/10. Cant wait for real pics, and a test drive !!
My brother owns an original JAP engined 3 wheeler, and they are far and away the best of the 20's cycle cars, with your arse 2" off the tarmac, 1/4 of a tirn lock to lock, pin sharp steering. At 100mph it is the most exciting car you ve ever driven !
The harley V twin will sound wonderful, and give great driving feel with lumpy firing impulses and lots of torque.
To compare it with the Grinnall is missing the point...it wont be a state of the art track day thing, but a great "tooling about" car.
Inspiration 10/10. Cant wait for real pics, and a test drive !!
You all seem to like the idea of a new Morgan three wheeler. If not its design, cutting edge meets 1930 style like all "new/current" Morgans, that costs. I agree at £30,000 it is costly, but its aiming at a different market to the 1930's-50's cars.
What you and I want is a car that is aimed at the same market as the 1930's cars. A buget sports, these were very low cost cars in 30's, but could equal or out perform the best sports of the time. What should a very low cost sports car sell for?
I think a price of around £4,000 and performance equaling a 911(!) would be needed to equal that of the original Areo, Grand Prix and Super Sport (names of Morgan three wheeler from the 30's). Could a car like this be build?
There is a Kit Car from the US which show a diferent very moden view of a twin V powered car, It use a very simlar engine, The Twin Tech.
What you and I want is a car that is aimed at the same market as the 1930's cars. A buget sports, these were very low cost cars in 30's, but could equal or out perform the best sports of the time. What should a very low cost sports car sell for?
I think a price of around £4,000 and performance equaling a 911(!) would be needed to equal that of the original Areo, Grand Prix and Super Sport (names of Morgan three wheeler from the 30's). Could a car like this be build?
There is a Kit Car from the US which show a diferent very moden view of a twin V powered car, It use a very simlar engine, The Twin Tech.
Kdicar said:
You all seem to like the idea of a new Morgan three wheeler. If not its design, cutting edge meets 1930 style like all "new/current" Morgans, that costs. I agree at £30,000 it is costly, but its aiming at a different market to the 1930's-50's cars.
What you and I want is a car that is aimed at the same market as the 1930's cars. A buget sports, these were very low cost cars in 30's, but could equal or out perform the best sports of the time. What should a very low cost sports car sell for?
I think a price of around £4,000 and performance equaling a 911(!) would be needed to equal that of the original Areo, Grand Prix and Super Sport (names of Morgan three wheeler from the 30's). Could a car like this be build?
There is a Kit Car from the US which show a diferent very moden view of a twin V powered car, It use a very simlar engine, The Twin Tech.
Hi KeithWhat you and I want is a car that is aimed at the same market as the 1930's cars. A buget sports, these were very low cost cars in 30's, but could equal or out perform the best sports of the time. What should a very low cost sports car sell for?
I think a price of around £4,000 and performance equaling a 911(!) would be needed to equal that of the original Areo, Grand Prix and Super Sport (names of Morgan three wheeler from the 30's). Could a car like this be build?
There is a Kit Car from the US which show a diferent very moden view of a twin V powered car, It use a very simlar engine, The Twin Tech.
Are you saying the original MTW was half the price of the cheapest car on the road and 1/20th of a high performer? Wow if so. I am guessing that the Health and safety/standards/QC and taxation etc that MMC and others must adhere to these days will mean we will never see anything of that ilk (£/performance) again.
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