Do you use parent and child spaces without children?

[Foliage]

This thread amuses me.

[BrabusMog]

Vipers said:

BrabusMog said:

How many toddler got killed in car parks prior to the advent of parent and child spaces, and what are the current figures?

Groan............... What on earth happened to common sense. If you ain't got a kid with you, park elsewhere and be done with it.

That wasn't my question. I also think the spaces are a good thing, but maybe their positioning isn't necessary. I'd say it's perfectly sensible to ask a question about toddler deaths in car parks when people make statements along the lines of "dodging toddlers walking around in car parks".

[Vipers]

BrabusMog said:

That wasn't my question. I also think the spaces are a good thing, but maybe their positioning isn't necessary. I'd say it's perfectly sensible to ask a question about toddler deaths in car parks when people make statements along the lines of "dodging toddlers walking around in car parks".

OK. You mention positioning, my thoughts are that the shortest distance drivers with children have to go from the vehicle to the front door of the shop is safer.

So maybe that's why some supermarkets put them nearer to the shop door than other spaces. If you want a straight answer to the question, I have absolutely no ide?

[9mm]

BrabusMog said:

Vipers said:

BrabusMog said:

How many toddler got killed in car parks prior to the advent of parent and child spaces, and what are the current figures?

Groan............... What on earth happened to common sense. If you ain't got a kid with you, park elsewhere and be done with it.

That wasn't my question. I also think the spaces are a good thing, but maybe their positioning isn't necessary. I'd say it's perfectly sensible to ask a question about toddler deaths in car parks when people make statements along the lines of "dodging toddlers walking around in car parks".

I asked that question about a hundred years ago and didn't get an answer.

[jbsportstech]

St John Smythe said:

That's what they tell you. I think the real reason behind it is financial. Who on average spends more in a supermarket, a Mum with kids doing the weekly shop or one of the angry PHers on this thread nipping in to get some fags and booze? Of course they want to make it easier for families to shop.

Alot of families have tighter budgets than coupleless children.

My other half and her mum often go shopping together they spend about the same except my other half gets a full trolley load and her mum has half a trolley for her and her husband.

[BrabusMog]

Vipers said:

BrabusMog said:

That wasn't my question. I also think the spaces are a good thing, but maybe their positioning isn't necessary. I'd say it's perfectly sensible to ask a question about toddler deaths in car parks when people make statements along the lines of "dodging toddlers walking around in car parks".

OK. You mention positioning, my thoughts are that the shortest distance drivers with children have to go from the vehicle to the front door of the shop is safer.

So maybe that's why some supermarkets put them nearer to the shop door than other spaces. If you want a straight answer to the question, I have absolutely no ide?

That's a fair enough response, it's a shame most posters on this thread aren't as balanced as you but appear to be more like this lady...

[Redgate]

Being a dad myself I think it has been made abundantly clear why those P & C parking spaces are so useful to us parents.

Now I would be really interested to hear their arguments from those who think it is OK to use them, even if they have no kids on board.

I personally think it simply boils down to a lack of education, but I could be wrong.

[BrabusMog]

Redgate said:

Being a dad myself I think it has been made abundantly clear why those P & C parking spaces are so useful to us parents.

Now I would be really interested to hear their arguments from those who think it is OK to use them, even if they have no kids on board.

I personally think it simply boils down to a lack of education, but I could be wrong.

If I park directly in the middle of it, it is impossible for my car to be dinged/scratched unless it's intentional. I do sometimes have a child with me and always have a seat in the back, so I play by the rules. I would park at the back of a car park well out of the way, but someone always ends up parking right next to you/scratching you.

[Redgate]

BrabusMog said:

If I park directly in the middle of it, it is impossible for my car to be dinged/scratched unless it's intentional. I do sometimes have a child with me and always have a seat in the back, so I play by the rules. I would park at the back of a car park well out of the way, but someone always ends up parking right next to you/scratching you.

I am not too sure I understand what you mean by 'so I play by the rules'. Are you saying you only use them when you have kids with you? Or do you, by default, always park in them out of convenience?

[BrabusMog]

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

[KFC]

BrabusMog said:

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

Hows that playing by the rules?

Its deceiving people that you are...

[jmorgan]

KFC said:

BrabusMog said:

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

Hows that playing by the rules?

Its deceiving people that you are...

Good idea, where do I get a cheap one for show?

[Vipers]

KFC said:

BrabusMog said:

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

Hows that playing by the rules?

Its deceiving people that you are...

That's how I read it as well.


IF and I say IF that what it implies, then they have no cause to moan when they turn up with a kid, and you or I without kids decide to park in the last parent and child space.

[Redgate]

BrabusMog said:

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

Sorry, I just don't get your thought process.

Admittedly, on the rare occasions you have your nephew with you, you must appreciate how convenient it is to be able to park in a P & C spot.

So, why do you want to deny this commodity to people who really need it when you don't?

You want to avoid dings and scratches. I think you should not use your car at all, that is the only way to keep it pristine.

[BrabusMog]

Vipers said:

KFC said:

BrabusMog said:

I always have the baby seat set up in the back.

Hows that playing by the rules?

Its deceiving people that you are...

That's how I read it as well.

What's the difference between that and parking in one of those spots but leaving the kids in the car?

[KFC]

BrabusMog said:

What's the difference between that and parking in one of those spots but leaving the kids in the car?

Nothing at all. Whats your point?

[RYH64E]

BrabusMog said:

If I park directly in the middle of it, it is impossible for my car to be dinged/scratched unless it's intentional. I do sometimes have a child with me and always have a seat in the back, so I play by the rules. I would park at the back of a car park well out of the way, but someone always ends up parking right next to you/scratching you.

Really? By parking in a parent and child space you think your car is less likely to get scratched/dented by a buggy/pram/trolley/child with toy/parent with hands full of child and shopping? On the very rare occasions I visit a supermarket I park as far away from everyone else as possible, at the end of an aisle if possible, and at the extreme far edge of the parking space, certainly nowhere near children or distracted parents.

[BrabusMog]

My point is that a lot of people say that it is "flash harrys" and "self important idiots" that park in these spaces, but it isn't. And I genuinely would still use them if they were at the back of a car park. I use it to prevent my car getting scratched.

[otolith]

It would probably do more to avoid dings and scratches to make the P&C spaces mandatory for cars with kids in them and advise everyone else to keep well away from it.

Edited by otolith on Monday 27th July 12:36

[Vipers]

KFC said:

BrabusMog said:

What's the difference between that and parking in one of those spots but leaving the kids in the car?

Nothing at all. Whats your point?

If he parks there with a child seat, and no child, then he has no cause to moan when it's puddling down, and he turns up with his kids to find a driver without kids decides to park in the last parent and child space because it's nearer the shop door.