RE: SOTW: Audi V8
Discussion
Oddball RS said:
sklar said:
Nearly bought one of these, but was put off by the price of the fancy 'UFO' brakes on the one I was looking at.
Wow they really do look like backward engineering, square wheel anyone?More info on the "UFO" brakes here
http://ranwhenparked.blogspot.com/2009/11/what-lie...
Actually an ingenious solution to a problem that no longer exists due to the trend of cars having enormous wheels these days. It would seem that the vast majority have since been replaced with a conventional set-up though.
Idlehands said:
I've got a 4.2 A8 nowadays from 1997
WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
That make two of us, same year to, they make a great sound when revved, very DTM. Stealthy performance, very comfortable and no rust problems. WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
Hatches are fun, but this is an executive jet for the cost of weekend getaway.
Edited by Traveller on Friday 17th June 16:52
Dagnut said:
Riggers said:
Idlehands said:
I've got a 4.2 A8 nowadays from 1997
WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
I'm keeping my eye out. But I'll probably buy one when I see one... Heck, i'd even take a 2.8 or 3.7 one of those... but we're still a bit out...WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2822166.htm
In mfirst job at VW Audi Contim Hayes we had a customer come in with one of these- way way way over its cambelt change.
We advised that he should change it- it was like 60k over!!
He refused.
On the road test the cambelt snapped!!!!!!!!
big time valve piston interface and there wa senough of them that everyone went home that day with a souvenir bent audi v8 valve - the bill was over £4k in 1996!!!! and that was with a lot of audi goodwill...
great car but horrendous running costs IIRC
We advised that he should change it- it was like 60k over!!
He refused.
On the road test the cambelt snapped!!!!!!!!
big time valve piston interface and there wa senough of them that everyone went home that day with a souvenir bent audi v8 valve - the bill was over £4k in 1996!!!! and that was with a lot of audi goodwill...
great car but horrendous running costs IIRC
ScoobieWRX said:
Very odd really becuase you need to know how fast you're going to keep within the speed limits. Surely that's a matter of safety and should be part of the MOT.
But you don't need a speedo to know how fast you're going- a GPS (or smartphone) can tell you that, as can the tachometer in a manual car.ScoobieWRX said:
Very odd really becuase you need to know how fast you're going to keep within the speed limits. Surely that's a matter of safety and should be part of the MOT.
Numerical speed values have nothing whatsoever to do with safety. Nothing.
We only need to know our speed's numerical value to comply with a bad arbitrary law...
fluffnik said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Very odd really becuase you need to know how fast you're going to keep within the speed limits. Surely that's a matter of safety and should be part of the MOT.
Numerical speed values have nothing whatsoever to do with safety. Nothing.
We only need to know our speed's numerical value to comply with a bad arbitrary law...
Equally if you hit a pedestrian at 30 it's got to be better than hitting them at 35 or 40. Think of all the extra damage to your car due to the extra 5 or 10mph.
fluffnik said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Very odd really becuase you need to know how fast you're going to keep within the speed limits. Surely that's a matter of safety and should be part of the MOT.
Numerical speed values have nothing whatsoever to do with safety. Nothing.
We only need to know our speed's numerical value to comply with a bad arbitrary law...
Riggers said:
Dagnut said:
Riggers said:
Idlehands said:
I've got a 4.2 A8 nowadays from 1997
WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
I'm keeping my eye out. But I'll probably buy one when I see one... Heck, i'd even take a 2.8 or 3.7 one of those... but we're still a bit out...WeBuyAnyCar value it at £695 and it's almost spotless so should be in SOTW soon.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2822166.htm
I always wanted one of these. The only thing that would scare me off is the cost if anything went seriously wrong. Genuine Audi spares were and probably still are scarily expensive - much more so than BMW or Mercedes Benz. e.g. back in 1988 (after an idiot ran into my beloved Audi Coupe) two headlamp units (covered by the idiot's insurance thank goodness) cost 115 quid each PLUS VAT! A relatively cosmetic shunt resulted in an insurance claim of well over 1000 quid including some minor paint and a new grille. I hate to think what the same would cost today.
These cars never sold in big numbers so finding secondhand bits from a breaker or specialist would be very hard. The drive-lines are normally very robust, but the electricals (including the ECU etc are quite likely to be less so).
Having said that, if it's cheap enough, it's probably worth the risk. If you're lucky you're getting something very special at a bargain price. And let's face it that's what shedding is all about :-)
These cars never sold in big numbers so finding secondhand bits from a breaker or specialist would be very hard. The drive-lines are normally very robust, but the electricals (including the ECU etc are quite likely to be less so).
Having said that, if it's cheap enough, it's probably worth the risk. If you're lucky you're getting something very special at a bargain price. And let's face it that's what shedding is all about :-)
AlexiusG55 said:
But you don't need a speedo to know how fast you're going- a GPS (or smartphone) can tell you that, as can the tachometer in a manual car.
Smartphones and GPSs don't work in tunnels, city centres etc.A Tachometer requires maths (that's most of the country out) and not every car has one.
I suspect the reason the speedo isn't in the MOT is purely a practical one - checking it works and is accurate would take too long and push-up the cost of the test.
fluffnik said:
We only need to know our speed's numerical value to comply with a bad arbitrary law...
Whilst I agree wholeheartedly, would you really fancy having 'speeding' be judged purely by the opinion of the zealous, narrow-minded pricks who make up most Police Traffic departments???They already use a variety of minor traffic infringements as a veiled excuse to search cars/people for drugs and other stuff like that - imagine if they had power just to determine that you'd gone 'a bit too fast' and their word was unarguable *image of Judge Dredd*
johnpeat said:
On the face of it, a lovely shed - the paintwork is piffling when you consider the potential problems in the oily bits tho, so I'd look harder at those than the valance or bootlid 
He says 3 instruments aren't working but doesn't say if the speedo is one of them (it's the only instrument which would mean an MOT failure?) This is probably pre-electronic instruments and so a replacement shouldn't be too much of a challenge tho (I assuming parts from same-period Audis would fit??)
Either way GOT to be worth a peek.
Pre-electronic instruments in a 1992 A8? I would´t be too sure about it.He says 3 instruments aren't working but doesn't say if the speedo is one of them (it's the only instrument which would mean an MOT failure?) This is probably pre-electronic instruments and so a replacement shouldn't be too much of a challenge tho (I assuming parts from same-period Audis would fit??)
Either way GOT to be worth a peek.
Edited by johnpeat on Friday 17th June 01:36
And watch out for the spare part situation on these either. Some body parts
are no longer available, no kidding.
ureile said:
Pre-electronic instruments in a 1992 A8? I would´t be too sure about it.
No sign of electronic ODO - chances are it's not a coded dash and it looks pretty much the same as a 100/200 dash of the same era so...
[quote]And watch out for the spare part situation on these either. Some body parts
are no longer available, no kidding.
I like Audis, I like Audis of this period but a lot of shooting the breeze in this thread. I can only speak having tinkered with 3 of the same bodied straight 5 100s. I'm not a fan of modern Audis.
Well done on ITech mentioning the Autoboxes going pop. Look at a turn of the century copy of the Parkers used guide to see mention of Autobox failure on V8s and the scracity of replacements. The used S8/A8 piece in PPC mag. a few years ago mentioned Autoboxes failing and it's mentioned in many adverts for used A8s. It's all very well saying service and refill the automatic transmission but is that really going to make up for that not being done over the last two decades and a handful of owners?
Six pages in before any mention of the boxes failing.
Perhaps the value of the rear diff to an S2 tweaker will go someway to making up the value of a unserviceable autobox?
Thanks Veeayt, I wasn't aware of the stretched version or that they did this with a manual box. I knew the later C4 S6 was available in Europe with the 4.2 V8 and the 6 speed manual, but didn't know this was too.
I'm not convinced that this was that much quicker than the 200 Turbo Quattro. I think Georg Kacher in the test in CAR when launched said that the biggest problem with the model was that it was not different enough from the 100/200 (same shell) for the money and that the 200 Turbo Quattro offered much the same but cheaper. I think he said the top bits of the engine were from 16V Golfs.
Personally I find this far more interesting, but then it's a manual and a turbo:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-AUDI-200-AVANT-QUATTRO-...
Well done on ITech mentioning the Autoboxes going pop. Look at a turn of the century copy of the Parkers used guide to see mention of Autobox failure on V8s and the scracity of replacements. The used S8/A8 piece in PPC mag. a few years ago mentioned Autoboxes failing and it's mentioned in many adverts for used A8s. It's all very well saying service and refill the automatic transmission but is that really going to make up for that not being done over the last two decades and a handful of owners?
Six pages in before any mention of the boxes failing.
Perhaps the value of the rear diff to an S2 tweaker will go someway to making up the value of a unserviceable autobox?
Thanks Veeayt, I wasn't aware of the stretched version or that they did this with a manual box. I knew the later C4 S6 was available in Europe with the 4.2 V8 and the 6 speed manual, but didn't know this was too.
I'm not convinced that this was that much quicker than the 200 Turbo Quattro. I think Georg Kacher in the test in CAR when launched said that the biggest problem with the model was that it was not different enough from the 100/200 (same shell) for the money and that the 200 Turbo Quattro offered much the same but cheaper. I think he said the top bits of the engine were from 16V Golfs.
Personally I find this far more interesting, but then it's a manual and a turbo:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-AUDI-200-AVANT-QUATTRO-...
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