DriveTribe - online car community from Clarkson/May/Hamond

DriveTribe - online car community from Clarkson/May/Hamond

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djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I really do not understand why people are so anti Facebook, create a new gmail account and then a new Facebook account using the gmail one.
It will take you less than five minutes, put any name you want, and thats as far involved with Facebook as you need to get.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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djdest said:
I really do not understand why people are so anti Facebook, create a new gmail account and then a new Facebook account using the gmail one.
It will take you less than five minutes, put any name you want, and thats as far involved with Facebook as you need to get.
It's doesn't make sense on their part why they would only allow facebook. Some people not wanting to be on facebook shouldn't gimp them from using a completely unrelated website.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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rampageturke said:
It's doesn't make sense on their part why they would only allow facebook. Some people not wanting to be on facebook shouldn't gimp them from using a completely unrelated website.
Means that they do not have to build a secure system for storing login information, just use an auth token from FB. Means they cannot leak your passwords. Smart move IMO.

DonkeyApple

55,747 posts

170 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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rampageturke said:
djdest said:
I really do not understand why people are so anti Facebook, create a new gmail account and then a new Facebook account using the gmail one.
It will take you less than five minutes, put any name you want, and thats as far involved with Facebook as you need to get.
It's doesn't make sense on their part why they would only allow facebook. Some people not wanting to be on facebook shouldn't gimp them from using a completely unrelated website.
I can see the commercial and quality control logic of doing so. I've noticed that many entities now offer rapid sign in via FB or Google+ and some are now removing their own system. The cost and risk to a business of maintaining a secure database of personal information is rising daily and it makes perfect sense to farm this responsibility out.

On top of that I suspect your average mentalist may well have their behaviours self moderated if they have to expose their FB details. For example, half the multi millionaires on PH would disappear if they were forced to show their FB account that contains pictures of baked bean dinners and nights out at Whetherspoons.

I don't have either an FB or Google+ account. I run what is described by my peers as a FinTech business so I am meant to be clued up on social media but I've looked at both Google+ and FB and I genuinely don't understand them. I don't understand why people would publish personal information and i don't understand why other people want to know this information. But if I wanted to join DriveTrine I wouldn't see any issue at all in treating the FB sign up form as the DT one and just setting up an account. With FB it doesn't look like you need to use any real data to do so? You could use a fake name, standalone gmail account and if it needed a mobile number then a £5 sim would do the job, the credits you could then use up calling your annoying neighbour across the road to tell him his car is on fire and count how many times he runs outside before losing his st.

To be short, what would be the difference between filling out a sign up form hosted by DT versus the same but on a domain with a different URL?

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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rampageturke said:
It's doesn't make sense on their part why they would only allow facebook. Some people not wanting to be on facebook shouldn't gimp them from using a completely unrelated website.
I agree, but as I said, it takes under 5 minutes for a work around. Hardly a big issue really, and if people refuse to take that 5 minutes to create an account no more attached to their personal info than one on any other forum then they really are spiting themselves if they ultimately actually want to use the site

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Probably got far more to do with advertising revenue than security.

Advertisers kill for this demographic, other than the 12 year old wannabes, this site will be full of people with sufficient disposable income to be interested in cars, where a lot of the discussion will be along the lines of "this 30K item is better than that 30K item". Absolute gold dust when tied into the data from Facebook.

The social media format is all about accessibility. The forum format requires a bit of time, concentration and sufficient command of English to string a sentence together. Lots of people don't have one or more of those things. But they do have the time to "like" a video about Audis or whatever and then be put in the appropriate targeting list.

HayesDC2

285 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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rampageturke

2,622 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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HappyMidget said:
rampageturke said:
It's doesn't make sense on their part why they would only allow facebook. Some people not wanting to be on facebook shouldn't gimp them from using a completely unrelated website.
Means that they do not have to build a secure system for storing login information, just use an auth token from FB. Means they cannot leak your passwords. Smart move IMO.
Smart move or lazy move? There are other openauth providers, google, twitter, ectect, or just invest in decent database protection. It's just moving it on to be someone elses problem when st happens, attitude to security these days is a joke.

Again, why only facebook? Why are real names such a requirement? It's evident this is not about security and is about advertising and marketing.


Edited by rampageturke on Tuesday 22 November 09:46

Leins

9,497 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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HayesDC2 said:
If anyone is feeling charitable -> https://www.drivetribe.com/t/G0AdFSE7S5mDpd16ZglqW...
Done

djdest said:
I've started a tribe for BMW Touring models

https://www.drivetribe.com/t/A1zpUk6ySjOpTaX6v00JT...
And done


You fellas might be so good as to return the favour and that would get me public. Thanks!

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Cheers, I've joined as many as I can see in this thread smile

I wonder if it drops under 10 members it becomes unpublished again?

Truckosaurus

11,400 posts

285 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I still get a DNS error from my home computer but can access from the work laptop. I have signed up to several Tribes but not the Clarkson/Hammond/May ones as I suspect that will be Tugboat Central.

It's a bit busy user interface wise, although I suspect Young People will prefer that.

As mentioned earlier on this thread it seems a good way for them to take advantage of other people's content.

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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One member short of going public... pretty please, help a fellow PH'er out angel


Glym 9 Garage: https://www.drivetribe.com/t/KGjtAisXQxaPQd-Oui8q2...

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Only 3 more till the HSV Fanclub_ goes live smilehttps://www.drivetribe.com/t/YE_fbCmRQ9qfZdYzGNpHk...

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Leins said:
HayesDC2 said:
If anyone is feeling charitable -> https://www.drivetribe.com/t/G0AdFSE7S5mDpd16ZglqW...
Done

djdest said:
I've started a tribe for BMW Touring models

https://www.drivetribe.com/t/A1zpUk6ySjOpTaX6v00JT...
And done


You fellas might be so good as to return the favour and that would get me public. Thanks!
Likewise, here smile

Leins

9,497 posts

149 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Thanks folks, I'm public now I think

Craikeybaby

10,449 posts

226 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I think part of the reason for facebook login is that means people are using their real names, which should hopefully mean less trolling.

v8ksn

4,711 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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rampageturke said:
Why are real names such a requirement? It's evident this is not about security and is about advertising and marketing.
Fake names are more likely to post abuse and troll, real names makes people think twice.

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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v8ksn said:
rampageturke said:
Why are real names such a requirement? It's evident this is not about security and is about advertising and marketing.
Fake names are more likely to post abuse and troll, real names makes people think twice.
ahh the perfect marketing answer, trolls can be killed very quickly with proper moderation / user notifications

the data they farm on you is valuable, especially if its confirmed genuine, if they can grow it to 1% the size of FB they could potentially be looking at 100s of millions in income from that data and related advertising

crashley

1,568 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Anyone else concerned about security? If this associates FB with your car/bike ownership interest, it'll make it far easier for thieving scrotes to figure out location etc etc and leave you a target. Of course i could setup another FB account... but that's a pain.

v8ksn

4,711 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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