In the news - Jaguar Land Rover Manager - Road Rage Crash
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k-ink said:
zarjaz1991 said:
A judge should have the ability in extreme cases to say, that's it....never again for you.
It's quite surreal isn't it. Rather like letting murderers , rapists and child abusers out of jail. Oh wait, we already do. As if staying in a box will cure them and everything will return to normal. Ridiculous.EnglishTony said:
Since when has it been socially acceptable to publish video clips of kids getting paralysed?
As far as I could tell, it didn't. It stopped short of the full impact.Plus, publishing without copyright holders' permission would be awkward, so it must be assumed that the parents gave their permission in this case.
Quit being offended by proxy, the world isn't as fluffy a place as many seem to think it is. If viewing this video has a sobering affect on just a few of the 'Billy Big Bo
cks' dheads out there who indulge in this kind of life altering fkwittery, then it damned well SHOULD be published.In fact, I think that road safety should go the way of cigarette packet health warnings. Massive billboards erected at serious and fatal crash sites, with the Police evidence photos of the post-extraction scene. Driving past this sort of image might sober some idiots up and cause them to pay a little more attention to their standard of driving and the potential effects on them and other road users.
The standard of driving displayed in that video clip is utterly shocking. Two young girls facing broken lives and a whole family shattered by it. He's a t
t and should never be allowed behind the wheel of a car EVER again. Custodial sentence? Absolutely. But the following ban should have been lifetime. There are some things from which you cannot come back, and this, I'm afraid, IMHO is one of them. All he needed to do was take a deep breath and back the fk off for a moment and that whole incident never happens. Axionknight said:
Jesus, that's horrific.
The video is horrendous too - what the feck was he thinking? What a tool of a man.
It is absolutely shocking - when I first watched it I was amazed and I hadn't spotted the undertake. The video is horrendous too - what the feck was he thinking? What a tool of a man.
I know it doesn't help the poor little girls or their parents, but it does prove the worth of the dash camera.
greygoose said:
EnglishTony said:
Since when has it been socially acceptable to publish video clips of kids getting paralysed?
If it makes someone think that driving in such a stupid manner is unacceptable and there are serious consequences for the victims then I don't see the problem, presumably the family authorised the release of the clip.An obvious beyond red mist inspired manoeuvre, outrageous he even thought of a defence to that evidence, he'd obviously totally lost it and was pursuing the Mazda no matter what..
Having owned a couple of large 4x4's they can give a sense of invincibility (if sh@t happens) and a small % of drivers use that to lean on smaller vehicles to get out of the way. If you drive something a tonne heavier than other vehicles a degree of extra thinking on should be part of it.
Best of luck to the occupants of the signum, if it wasn't them this lunatic would have done something similar to some other poor sod at some point.
Having owned a couple of large 4x4's they can give a sense of invincibility (if sh@t happens) and a small % of drivers use that to lean on smaller vehicles to get out of the way. If you drive something a tonne heavier than other vehicles a degree of extra thinking on should be part of it.
Best of luck to the occupants of the signum, if it wasn't them this lunatic would have done something similar to some other poor sod at some point.
J4CKO said:
I see people on Facebook posting what a member of a certain group has done "Look at this bd, they are all like that you know....", that is the implication and its really just a way to further their own agenda, Lee Rigby seems to be the ultimate expression of this, poor guy was murdered in the street by lunatics and has ended up a bit of a poster boy for EDL types, yes it was terrible but had he been stabbed to death on a night out by a white bloke nobody would know his name, so a knob in an SUV does something bad, it must mean all SUV drivers are like that, no it doesnt, some may be, yes that type of car does attract the odd aggressive pillock but by and large most arent, had he been in a Focus would the thread have been posted at all ?
"that type of car does attract the odd aggressive pillock but by and large most aren't" d, they are all like that you know....", that is the implication and its really just a way to further their own agenda, Lee Rigby seems to be the ultimate expression of this, poor guy was murdered in the street by lunatics and has ended up a bit of a poster boy for EDL types, yes it was terrible but had he been stabbed to death on a night out by a white bloke nobody would know his name, so a knob in an SUV does something bad, it must mean all SUV drivers are like that, no it doesnt, some may be, yes that type of car does attract the odd aggressive pillock but by and large most arent, had he been in a Focus would the thread have been posted at all ?I'm glad we're in agreement. Thread posted to raise awareness and also because it has the added dimension of the driver reportedly being a senior manager at JLR, who make cars. This is a car forum.
k-ink said:
zarjaz1991 said:
A judge should have the ability in extreme cases to say, that's it....never again for you.
It's quite surreal isn't it. Rather like letting murderers , rapists and child abusers out of jail. Oh wait, we already do. As if staying in a box will cure them and everything will return to normal. Ridiculous.yellowjack said:
EnglishTony said:
Since when has it been socially acceptable to publish video clips of kids getting paralysed?
As far as I could tell, it didn't. It stopped short of the full impact.Plus, publishing without copyright holders' permission would be awkward, so it must be assumed that the parents gave their permission in this case.
Quit being offended by proxy, the world isn't as fluffy a place as many seem to think it is. If viewing this video has a sobering affect on just a few of the 'Billy Big Bo
cks' dheads out there who indulge in this kind of life altering fkwittery, then it damned well SHOULD be published.In fact, I think that road safety should go the way of cigarette packet health warnings. Massive billboards erected at serious and fatal crash sites, with the Police evidence photos of the post-extraction scene. Driving past this sort of image might sober some idiots up and cause them to pay a little more attention to their standard of driving and the potential effects on them and other road users.
The standard of driving displayed in that video clip is utterly shocking. Two young girls facing broken lives and a whole family shattered by it. He's a t
t and should never be allowed behind the wheel of a car EVER again. Custodial sentence? Absolutely. But the following ban should have been lifetime. There are some things from which you cannot come back, and this, I'm afraid, IMHO is one of them. All he needed to do was take a deep breath and back the fk off for a moment and that whole incident never happens. 
Spot on. Agree with every word.
Most of us will likely wake up in the morning and forget this. The reckless driver will no doubt forget this once he is back out early after good behaviour. Yet those girls will be thinking of this daily for the rest of their lives. In seventy years time, still dealing with it. So I don't think a short trip inside will do anything at all. Not even close.
danllama said:
Sickening. If the judge can't ban him for life, someone should remove his knee caps.
You're into retribution and lucky you have any eyes, teeth or limbs left. We left that aside a long time agoThe judge will have weighed up intentions outcomes and other factors before coming up with appropriate form of justice.
k-ink said:
Most of us will likely wake up in the morning and forget this. The reckless driver will no doubt forget this once he is back out early after good behaviour. Yet those girls will be thinking of this daily for the rest of their lives. In seventy years time, still dealing with it. So I don't think a short trip inside will do anything at all. Not even close.
I would imagine that PI compensation would mean the fella would also be ruined financially? House sold off, assets seized etc etc?k-ink said:
Havoc856 said:
This is why I'd be an advocate of mental health testing prior to licence issue. There really is a large percentage of the populous on the road who can't control themselves
Hopefully one day there will be some sort of DNA analysis, or a test of some kind to weed out those not fit to drive. At the very least they could use this data to charge many multiples higher insurance costs to some. Ideally limit them to taxi rides or automated cars at some point. That would actually help to stop this happening again. Like the driving test, which this guy obviously passed, things change over time including driving abilities and people's mental health. Surely the only solution would be monthly/annual tests to ensure that drivers are still safe to drive
Ozzie Osmond said:
k-ink said:
The reckless driver will no doubt forget this once he is back out early after good behaviour.
Are you serious? Would you forget something like that? It's entirely possible the bloke is absolutely shattered.Tragic event.
So he continued to lie about the circumstances right up until he was sentenced. Doesn't sound shattered ore even particularly remorseful to me.
If by shattered you mean 'consumed with self pity' then I'm pretty sure you are accurate.
Edited by SWoll on Friday 27th May 13:08
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