RE: Chris Harris video: the Singer 911
Discussion
I've had a dream ever since the euro millions jackpot came into existence. Imagine what you could do with 120-million-quid.
After informing my family they don't ever need to work again, I'd take care of my friends. I doubt they'd ever feel the need to go to work either.
Of course I'd do the smug thing, an anonymous donation to a worthy charity would be on my list of things to do, but I'd buy a supercar first. Something shameless, like an F40 and I'd do some big pirreli sponsored donuts in the employer's car park. I'm still undecided as to whether I'd deck the 'v's at the same time though.
Back to the dream, I'd buy an old traditional building in the middle of nowhere. I'd fill it to the brim with autoclaves CNC whojemaflips, lathes, rapid prototyping machines, those 3d metal printers etc etc.
Then, I'd take something innocuous, like an Alfa 156 and replicate it from the ground up in CF, give it massive power and rear wheel drive. It would be something you dismissed on first glance but fell in love with on a petrol-(piston)-head's second glance. The perfect paint, the stance, the slightly bigger wheels, the sense of purpose, menace even, the immaculate interior. It would make people stop in their tracks, look at it but wonder why they'd stopped.
Damn you Singer. YOU STOLE MY DREAM!!!
Everything. I'd do it all the same robust, excessively OCD way. The starting again from scratch, the polishing the wheels whilst still sat in an office chair, knowing it's going to get thraped. Everything.
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After informing my family they don't ever need to work again, I'd take care of my friends. I doubt they'd ever feel the need to go to work either.
Of course I'd do the smug thing, an anonymous donation to a worthy charity would be on my list of things to do, but I'd buy a supercar first. Something shameless, like an F40 and I'd do some big pirreli sponsored donuts in the employer's car park. I'm still undecided as to whether I'd deck the 'v's at the same time though.
Back to the dream, I'd buy an old traditional building in the middle of nowhere. I'd fill it to the brim with autoclaves CNC whojemaflips, lathes, rapid prototyping machines, those 3d metal printers etc etc.
Then, I'd take something innocuous, like an Alfa 156 and replicate it from the ground up in CF, give it massive power and rear wheel drive. It would be something you dismissed on first glance but fell in love with on a petrol-(piston)-head's second glance. The perfect paint, the stance, the slightly bigger wheels, the sense of purpose, menace even, the immaculate interior. It would make people stop in their tracks, look at it but wonder why they'd stopped.
Damn you Singer. YOU STOLE MY DREAM!!!
Everything. I'd do it all the same robust, excessively OCD way. The starting again from scratch, the polishing the wheels whilst still sat in an office chair, knowing it's going to get thraped. Everything.
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ds.
Great video. I think I may get the idea of a Singer now. It's a possible Euromillions rollover dream car for me. I got the 288GTO reference earlier too. It'd still be a lot of money for a 911, even as a Euromillions winner I'd be looking at what else I could get for the money.
Watching that video reminds me of the artisans of Morgan, they're like the Pagani of 911 fettlers.
I think given Monkey's comments about the track use, if it can be tweaked to make it better while still road friendly it should be done really.
Perhaps we need an update on Monkey's feedback and whether they changed anything otherwise it could seem they've just chucked really pricey parts at it without fully developing it.
I don't like the central filler. I don't care what competition cars or 356s it may reference, it's too obvious. I'd prefer it if the filler was left in a front wing or the filler neck was shortened and the whole bonnet had to be popped to access it and get petrol into it.
It's a 911 friendly face with a huge wart on the middle of its nose.
Watching that video reminds me of the artisans of Morgan, they're like the Pagani of 911 fettlers.
I think given Monkey's comments about the track use, if it can be tweaked to make it better while still road friendly it should be done really.
Perhaps we need an update on Monkey's feedback and whether they changed anything otherwise it could seem they've just chucked really pricey parts at it without fully developing it.
I don't like the central filler. I don't care what competition cars or 356s it may reference, it's too obvious. I'd prefer it if the filler was left in a front wing or the filler neck was shortened and the whole bonnet had to be popped to access it and get petrol into it.
It's a 911 friendly face with a huge wart on the middle of its nose.
Edited by carinaman on Friday 18th January 08:13
Without doubt a fabulous toy, and another excellent video, ( how long before TV calls ? ). The detail design looks really impressive, the electrical plugs of aircraft/motorsport quality really did it for me.
When this car first launched, it had a 9Meister from Warrington , UK, developed engine featuring their rods and pistons, cams, billet cylinder heads, GT3 oil pump and six Jenvey Throttle bodies and so on. A fabulous engine with total drivability from one thousand revs, rushing to towards eight thousand revs, I know it well, as I had one installed in my own 964RS. How well I remember the excitement of seeing over one hundred and seventy-five miles an hour on the speedometer of my car on the autobahn in Germany, and the car still pulling like a train when the road started to run out ! However there are quite a lot of downsides to such an engine for anything other than track usage, assuming you can find a track that will accept the enormous noise that the throttle bodies create ! Noise is a really major issue, those throttles infiltrate the entire car and become almost unbearable on any sort of journey, as does that slow seeping smell of a racing engine. Allied to this, at the time of my conversion there was no heat exchanger equipped competition exhaust system available to match the induction and cams, so my car was fitted with an American "Billy Boat" system, no working heater or de-mister in a European based car is completely impossible to live with, even the most wonderful car in the world becomes a misery to live with when it's freezing cold inside, and the screen and windows are constantly misted !
None of this detracts from the desirability of the Singer, but from my own very costly experience, I'd guess it's much better out in the hotter regions of the USA than our little cold damp island ?
For my own situation, I've taken advice from the wisest Porsche sages from this website and others, and just spent another large lump of money converting my 964RS back to ( nearly ) the way Dr. Porsche intended !
When this car first launched, it had a 9Meister from Warrington , UK, developed engine featuring their rods and pistons, cams, billet cylinder heads, GT3 oil pump and six Jenvey Throttle bodies and so on. A fabulous engine with total drivability from one thousand revs, rushing to towards eight thousand revs, I know it well, as I had one installed in my own 964RS. How well I remember the excitement of seeing over one hundred and seventy-five miles an hour on the speedometer of my car on the autobahn in Germany, and the car still pulling like a train when the road started to run out ! However there are quite a lot of downsides to such an engine for anything other than track usage, assuming you can find a track that will accept the enormous noise that the throttle bodies create ! Noise is a really major issue, those throttles infiltrate the entire car and become almost unbearable on any sort of journey, as does that slow seeping smell of a racing engine. Allied to this, at the time of my conversion there was no heat exchanger equipped competition exhaust system available to match the induction and cams, so my car was fitted with an American "Billy Boat" system, no working heater or de-mister in a European based car is completely impossible to live with, even the most wonderful car in the world becomes a misery to live with when it's freezing cold inside, and the screen and windows are constantly misted !
None of this detracts from the desirability of the Singer, but from my own very costly experience, I'd guess it's much better out in the hotter regions of the USA than our little cold damp island ?
For my own situation, I've taken advice from the wisest Porsche sages from this website and others, and just spent another large lump of money converting my 964RS back to ( nearly ) the way Dr. Porsche intended !
Watched the video last night. The car is undoubtedly a fantastic job with great attention to detail. It is however, ridiculously expensive, and not purely because of the cost of its parts but because of the labour intensive manner in which it is built, and the development costs associated with it.
It also has limited appeal - i.e. 911 fans. Those who don't have an obsession with 911s would prefer to buy a brand new 911 Carrera S which is obviously a much better car to drive and live with day-to-day at less than a fifth of the cost. Nice as though it may be, it is a car with a tiny market niche, and even at that is massively expensive!
It also has limited appeal - i.e. 911 fans. Those who don't have an obsession with 911s would prefer to buy a brand new 911 Carrera S which is obviously a much better car to drive and live with day-to-day at less than a fifth of the cost. Nice as though it may be, it is a car with a tiny market niche, and even at that is massively expensive!
Benjaminbopper said:
Isn't this similar to what Paul Stephen's Autoart has been doing for some time? A 3rd of the price, still bespoke so you could get pretty close and buy one of those Alfa GTA-r's!
http://www.psautoart.com
Indeed, thats what I was thinking also, but could not remember (old age) their name.http://www.psautoart.com
lovely cars and would suit me quiet as well.
I was also a Singer myself long time ago, way cheaper then that Porsche Singer, depends on who you asked which sounded vocally better
mybrainhurts said:
Did he say $30,000 for the wiring loom..?
Somebody's taking the wazz....
for me the aerospace wiring loom is an obsessive detail too far in that there is really no engineering or aethetic need for it. washing your hands and checking the front door is locked 19 times is fine but there's just no need to do it the 20th time Somebody's taking the wazz....
NGK210 said:
Strange, no mention of any performance figures - you'd think CH would have whipped out his Dynolicious?
So, what do we reckon 1200kg / 350+bhp would deliver?
I think it's fair to say that it doesn't matter what the numbers are. This is a car that delights through interaction.So, what do we reckon 1200kg / 350+bhp would deliver?
Edited by NGK210 on Friday 18th January 13:09
Harris says it's more than quick enough, i'll take his word for it
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