RE: Jaguar F-Type V6 S: Driven

[smilo996]

Cannot wait for Chris to start on about the Boxter and Caymann.........yawn. Well Done Jag. It looks, sounds and goes brilliantly.

[lufbramatt]

Spotted a black F-type S driving up the A249 this morning, have to say it looks really nice in the flesh. I was suprized how much E-type is apparent in the design- from the pert upturned tail with wraparound lights and raised bulges over the back wheels, to the bulge on the bonnet and big mouth on the front- but without being overtly retro. Nicely proportioned too for a new car without the silly high bonnet line all new models seem to have.

[MycroftWard]

lufbramatt said:

...raised bulges over the back wheels...

"Haunches".

[unrepentant]

anonymous said:

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It's all relative. All cars are cheaper in the US because we don't have ludicrous 20% VAT. As with most things a dollar buys what a pound does.

[unrepentant]

Agoogy said:

If the boot is tiny then that's all the Jag XK (prospective)owners need to hear, to know it's no rival... ie can it carry Golf clubs...

The boot's not tiny. Golf clubs? No problem. You can get 2 sets in.

[Agoogy]

Who needs the XK then !! hahaa

only kidding I've read the comments... re: hardcore vs wafter..

[Krikkit]

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

[unrepentant]

Krikkit said:

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

[Cotic]

unrepentant said:

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

Carries small children well enough too.

[andyps]

Cotic said:

Carries small children well enough too.

Looks like you could get about four in there, so it is a people carrier really. Jag are underselling it!

[Krikkit]

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

I didn't say I want a huge boot, but a bit of a nod to practicality so you can use it to go and do the shopping etc at weekend means it doesn't just end up moth-balled in the garage for everything but a Sunday blast. It's a car to use every day, that means it can take you camping to Le Mans, on a few days jolly with the Mrs etc.

[unrepentant]

Krikkit said:

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

I didn't say I want a huge boot, but a bit of a nod to practicality so you can use it to go and do the shopping etc at weekend means it doesn't just end up moth-balled in the garage for everything but a Sunday blast. It's a car to use every day, that means it can take you camping to Le Mans, on a few days jolly with the Mrs etc.

So are you going to hang on to your '98 Peugeot for the time being?

The car is plenty practical. I would say it has as much space if not more than my Sagaris and that did just fine for trips to Le Mans for 2 people etc..

[kambites]

I can quite happily get a week's worth of stuff for two people into the boot of my Elise... I doubt this is that small.

[Krikkit]

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

I didn't say I want a huge boot, but a bit of a nod to practicality so you can use it to go and do the shopping etc at weekend means it doesn't just end up moth-balled in the garage for everything but a Sunday blast. It's a car to use every day, that means it can take you camping to Le Mans, on a few days jolly with the Mrs etc.

So are you going to hang on to your '98 Peugeot for the time being?

The car is plenty practical. I would say it has as much space if not more than my Sagaris and that did just fine for trips to Le Mans for 2 people etc..

Not saying I'm buying one (I wish, I'd have one in a heartbeat), that doesn't mean I can't appraise cars on how I see it, does it? My current garage doesn't mean that I can't objectively assess other cars.

I didn't say it was too small to be practical, I just said it was reasonably small, especially given the exterior dimensions. My last post was countering the assumption that a "sports" car can have no usable boot and still be as tempting a proposition to most buyers.

[dugsud]

unrepentant said:

HeMightBeBanned said:

Porsche blah blah blah. Yawn. Pistonheads is so predictable.

It's clearly a great car. Look on it as an Aston Vantage competitor (in V8S form) and it's stonking value.

Be happy that a British company has built a great car. Lift yourselves above the gloom of austerity and celebrate the fact.

But most of all, stop crapping on about default Porsches.

Looking forward to the manual coupé

It's a brilliant new car and will sell well. We've been waiting for it since 1975. Well done JLR. What a fantastic few years since TATA took over. Brilliant new XJ, fantastic Evoque, utterly incredible new FFRR, great new Sport and now a truly exceptional new Jaguar sports car. And more to come..

It's British and it's great. Be proud, I am.

I agree

[toppstuff]

dugsud said:

unrepentant said:

HeMightBeBanned said:

Porsche blah blah blah. Yawn. Pistonheads is so predictable.

It's clearly a great car. Look on it as an Aston Vantage competitor (in V8S form) and it's stonking value.

Be happy that a British company has built a great car. Lift yourselves above the gloom of austerity and celebrate the fact.

But most of all, stop crapping on about default Porsches.

Looking forward to the manual coupé

It's a brilliant new car and will sell well. We've been waiting for it since 1975. Well done JLR. What a fantastic few years since TATA took over. Brilliant new XJ, fantastic Evoque, utterly incredible new FFRR, great new Sport and now a truly exceptional new Jaguar sports car. And more to come..

It's British and it's great. Be proud, I am.

I agree

Completely agree.

[NGK210]

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

unrepentant said:

Krikkit said:

That's a pretty small boot, but that's a small price to pay! Can't wait to hear a V6S at full chat. Maybe I should put my posh suit on and try and persuade a Jag dealer to let me test one.

It's a sports car FFS! If you want a huge boot you don't buy a 2 seater sports car.

I didn't say I want a huge boot, but a bit of a nod to practicality so you can use it to go and do the shopping etc at weekend means it doesn't just end up moth-balled in the garage for everything but a Sunday blast. It's a car to use every day, that means it can take you camping to Le Mans, on a few days jolly with the Mrs etc.

So are you going to hang on to your '98 Peugeot for the time being?

The car is plenty practical. I would say it has as much space if not more than my Sagaris and that did just fine for trips to Le Mans for 2 people etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlbOZ9w84I

[lufbramatt]

MycroftWard said:

lufbramatt said:

...raised bulges over the back wheels...

"Haunches".

Yes that's the word I wanted. Couldn't ask anyone as they would have realised I wasn't doing any work

[Wills2]

unrepentant said:

I don't think it's expensive at all. A base 911 Cab is more expensive here than the V8S, it's slower and way less attractive. As for Aston, you can pay 50% more for a car designed (a long time ago) by the same people with less power or you can trouser the money and buy the brand new F Type.

The looks thing is subjective, you think it's better looking than a 991, I disagree. For me the 911 looks far better resolved, there is too much chintz on the F-type, but again that's subjective.

As for the Aston using an old platform so does the Jag, and when it comes to looks the Aston has the Jag beaten hollow.

I appreciate your passion for something you sell? (I'm guessing but you appear to be involved in selling JLR products) but your facts aren't facts they are subjective statements.

The C2S is 90k the V8S 80k so in the same ball park plus you'll always pay more for a brand like Porsche over a Jaguar product, the C2S is a match for the V8 performance wise and in most other objective measures beats it.

I like the F-type and hope it sells well, but it's no game changer.

Edited by Wills2 on Friday 19th April 22:17

[unrepentant]

Wills2 said:

unrepentant said:

I don't think it's expensive at all. A base 911 Cab is more expensive here than the V8S, it's slower and way less attractive. As for Aston, you can pay 50% more for a car designed (a long time ago) by the same people with less power or you can trouser the money and buy the brand new F Type.

The looks thing is subjective, you think it's better looking than a 991, I disagree. For me the 911 looks far better resolved, there is too much chintz on the F-type, but again that's subjective.

As for the Aston using an old platform so does the Jag, and when it comes to looks the Aston has the Jag beaten hollow.

I appreciate your passion for something you sell? (I'm guessing but you appear to be involved in selling JLR products) but your facts aren't facts there are subjective statements.

The C2S is 90k the V8S 80k so in the same ball park plus you'll always pay more for a brand like Porsche over a Jaguar product, the C2S is a match for the V8 performance wise and in most other objective measures beats it.

I like the F-type and hope it sells well, but it's no game changer.

Of course it's all subjective. I've never personally liked the looks of the 911, it's a squashed beetle and I'm a TVR guy!

I love the Astons but I personally don't think they are superior in looks to the Jag or vice versa. I do know a V8 Vantage S has 60 less horsepower, costs 50% more and the nearest dealer is 200 miles away. They're not the competition.

The 911 is a great car, the F Type is a great car. I don't know why everyone gets hung up on the comparisons, there are buyers for both. As for judgements about whether the F type is a game changer or not I would wait until you drive it. The car is frickin awesome. There's room in the market for all the cars and I'm confident that the F Type will hold it's end up perfectly well. I wouldn't be suprised though if we have a few 911's to sell on our used lot next year alongside the Cayenne's we regularly get in trade against Range Rovers.