In the news - Jaguar Land Rover Manager - Road Rage Crash

[Pat H]

Ozzie Osmond said:

It's entirely possible the bloke is absolutely shattered.

But not sufficiently shattered to enter a guilty plea.

A conviction after trial (in the face of seemingly overwhelming evidence) tells me all I need to know about the amount of remorse which this individual feels.

[saaby93]

giantdefy said:

4 1/2 years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36396341

Parrot

saaby93 said:

Four and half years
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36396341

[OTBC]

Pathetic sentence. This was a sustained period of driving like a bellend.

[anonymous-user]

Ozzie Osmond said:

k-ink said:

The reckless driver will no doubt forget this once he is back out early after good behaviour.

Are you serious? Would you forget something like that? It's entirely possible the bloke is absolutely shattered.

Tragic event.

Tragic for the girls.

I hope the bloke IS shattered, his family leave him, and his fellow inmates use him as a toilet. I'm normally quite liberal but I'd like to punch that so hard his eyes fell out. No sympathy for him whatsoever.

[OTBC]

Anyone seriously believe this was the first time he'd behaved like an entitled child having a tantrum?

[J4CKO]

Ozzie Osmond said:

k-ink said:

The reckless driver will no doubt forget this once he is back out early after good behaviour.

Are you serious? Would you forget something like that? It's entirely possible the bloke is absolutely shattered.

Tragic event.

Yeah, he was a dick, at that moment, a moronic bellend who did something petulant, aggressive and stupid, rest of the time he probably doesnt go round stamping on kittens and eating babies, probably just another fairly well to do bloke who I expect would be perfectly affable and pleasant, not Vlad the Impaler or Hitler, I expect he is feeling massive amounts of remorse, not for himself so much as the family he has wronged and his own family, who will have been massively affected as well.

This is a bit like that bloke who forgets his Skype cam is on whilst knocking one out, everyone laughing and jeering, but secretly thinking, thank fk that wasn't me, same with this guy, he was in a car, did something stupid and it went very badly wrong, we may like to say what should be done to him but there is an element of relief it isnt us, I tend not to go round chasing other drivers but I have got into altercations and pettiness on the road, I have had the red mist but it has fizzled out and I have just felt sheepish about it, not paralysed anyone but we need to get it straight that whilst we drive, that is always a possibility, maybe not because we are pusuing some woman who has annoyed or slightly inconvenienced us, but just in the business of driving, maybe "hooning", even if totally blameless in a situation, if the net result is two kids being paralysed then any normal person will find that difficult to deal with.

I am not exonerating this guy but perhaps he isnt that different to us, lets try to bring this to mind when some utter knobsocket cuts you up, just treat it like water off a ducks back, two minutes and you will have forgotten it, if it goes wrong you will never forget it, someone on here said "Dont let bellends become part of the rest of your life" and that struck me as a very good piece of advice.

[SWoll]

OTBC said:

Anyone seriously believe this was the first time he'd behaved like an entitled child having a tantrum?

No chance.

[OTBC]

"This is a bit like that bloke who forgets his Skype cam is on whilst knocking one out"

That doesn't usually leaved two children with life-changing injuries. So no, it's not like that at all.

[J4CKO]

OTBC said:

"This is a bit like that bloke who forgets his Skype cam is on whilst knocking one out"

That doesn't usually leaved two children with life-changing injuries. So no, it's not like that at all.

No, a car crash and masturbation are not the same, you make a very valid point here, but completely miss the actual point of what I was saying, whilst managing to sound a bit sanctimonious in the process.

The point was, we all drive cars, things can go wrong, this bloke isnt some other species, he is the same as us, we do stuff on the roads like going too quickly and things can go wrong, not necessarily road rage, or knocking one out for that matter, but we can do things that result in the same outcome and we need to think about that when we drive.

But I am guessing you have never exceeded the speed limit, made a dodgy overtake, misjudged a corner etc etc ? but I would definitely check that your webcam is disconnected...

[OTBC]

Are you saying you have driven like this?

[SWoll]

J4CKO said:

This is a bit like that bloke who forgets his Skype cam is on whilst knocking one out, everyone laughing and jeering, but secretly thinking, thank fk that wasn't me, same with this guy, he was in a car, did something stupid and it went very badly wrong, we may like to say what should be done to him but there is an element of relief it isnt us.

No, it really isn't. And for the majority of drivers there is 0% chance it ever will be them as they don't aggressively chase other drivers around in traffic putting other peoples lives at risk due to their ego's.

[k-ink]

SWoll said:

OTBC said:

Anyone seriously believe this was the first time he'd behaved like an entitled child having a tantrum?

No chance.

I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of aggressive behaviour is deeply rooted in his cave man personality. Unless he learns to actively over rule his emotions and reactions 100% of the time, it may well surface again in the future. So it may not be his last tantrum, despite some time off.

Hopefully this sort of thing can be tested for in the future.

[Cudd Wudd]

saaby93 said:

Parrot

You might not want to look at p.6 (11.36) or p.7 (11.59)

Absolutely tragic case and feel so much for the family involved. Those poor girls

[SWoll]

J4CKO said:

No, a car crash and masturbation are not the same, you make a very valid point here, but completely miss the actual point of what I was saying, whilst managing to sound a bit sanctimonious in the process.

The point was, we all drive cars, things can go wrong, this bloke isnt some other species, he is the same as us, we do stuff on the roads like going too quickly and things can go wrong, not necessarily road rage, or knocking one out for that matter, but we can do things that result in the same outcome and we need to think about that when we drive.

But I am guessing you have never exceeded the speed limit, made a dodgy overtake, misjudged a corner etc etc ? but I would definitely check that your webcam is disconnected...

You're making less and less sense.

So one minute it's like being caught having a w**k on webcam, and now it's equivalent to doing 75 on a motorway or entering a corner a little too fast?

Have you actually read the story or seen the footage?

[SWoll]

k-ink said:

SWoll said:

OTBC said:

Anyone seriously believe this was the first time he'd behaved like an entitled child having a tantrum?

No chance.

I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of aggressive behaviour is deeply rooted in his cave man personality. Unless he learns to actively over rule his emotions and reactions 100% of the time, it may well surface again in the future. So it may not be his last tantrum, despite some time off.

Hopefully this sort of thing can be tested for in the future.

I'm still convinced this is more a case of a massive and aggressive ego than 'red mist' descending, so perhaps a couple of years inside, losing his job and one would assume a considerable amount of money might well help with that?

[k-ink]

To a degree, for a period of time, yes I agree. But can you really change your personality for good, forever? Perhaps at best he will have to learn to think twice and over rule his natural aggression.

[N3vins]

Typical behaviour of the s that drive those cars. Poor children

[lostkiwi]

A more detailed report (and full coverage of teh crash) here:
http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/graphic-con...

[untakenname]

Does a driving ban now start from the time the convicted is released from prison?
Remember signing a petition a couple of years back but have heard nothing since.

zarjaz1991 said:

The Mazda driver was entirely blameless and had nothing to do with it whatsoever.

She instigated this whole sorry chain of events, if she didn't give him the finger then he wouldn't have got irate and none of this would have happened.
She will have to live with a lifetime of guilt for what she did,IMO she should be publically named as well.

[SWoll]

N3vins said:

Typical behaviour of the s that drive those cars. Poor children

FFS, not again...