Calling all unusual hot hatch owners
Discussion
Jayho said:
The ZR 160 with 1.8L VVT I'd consider a Hot hatch, the 1.4's not so much.
I'd probably rather have the R200 BRM though.
Yeah the 160 my 1.4 is a luke warm but decent enough car. And the R200 BRM is okay but the ZR is meant to be a better drive and also about 20bhp more powerful it does lack a bright orange grille however I'd probably rather have the R200 BRM though.
greggy50 said:
Jayho said:
The ZR 160 with 1.8L VVT I'd consider a Hot hatch, the 1.4's not so much.
I'd probably rather have the R200 BRM though.
Yeah the 160 my 1.4 is a luke warm but decent enough car. And the R200 BRM is okay but the ZR is meant to be a better drive and also about 20bhp more powerful it does lack a bright orange grille however I'd probably rather have the R200 BRM though.
The end result is the ZR160 given the grip is probably quicker 0-60mph. No faster or slower 0-100mph and a lot slower in the corners, especially on a track.
300bhp/ton said:
BRM VVC is rated at 143bhp (145PS) and the ZR160 is 158bhp (160PS). But the ZR is heavier. It also doesn't handle as well. Doesn't have as well setup shock/springs, lacks the LSD, the close ratio gearbox, the bigger brake servo and the quick rack steering.
The end result is the ZR160 given the grip is probably quicker 0-60mph. No faster or slower 0-100mph and a lot slower in the corners, especially on a track.
The BRM is as stated above, MEMS2J VVC 143 engine with close ratio LSD gearbox and sexy interior.The end result is the ZR160 given the grip is probably quicker 0-60mph. No faster or slower 0-100mph and a lot slower in the corners, especially on a track.
ZR160 is a MEMS3 VVC 160 engine with bigger brakes, lower and stiffer suspention, bigger wheels, quicker rack.
I personally preferr the BRM but the 160 is quicker overall and has the ability to be remapped due to the newer engine management system(mems3)
Daihatsu Storia X4 - a 4WD 713cc turbocharged competition car. I saw one of these on ebay a while back and desparately wanted it, I would still love one, I reckon it would make an amazing year round commuter; small, lightweight, thin little wheels and 4wd would make it good on snowy days and probably quite frugal if driven mostly off boost I suppose with only 713cc it would be pretty slow going when not letting the turbo spool up. I don't think the doubtlessly buzzy engine noise would annoy me either!
Mastodon2 said:
Daihatsu Storia X4 - a 4WD 713cc turbocharged competition car. I saw one of these on ebay a while back and desparately wanted it, I would still love one, I reckon it would make an amazing year round commuter; small, lightweight, thin little wheels and 4wd would make it good on snowy days and probably quite frugal if driven mostly off boost I suppose with only 713cc it would be pretty slow going when not letting the turbo spool up. I don't think the doubtlessly buzzy engine noise would annoy me either!
You arent the only one who wanted that!You can get 45-50mpg out of it, can also be tuned up to 200bhp with a factory applied mod.
A chap called Dane Gross had two of them. one at 130bhp with 0-60 in 6.6 seconds and his race one at 196bhp which did 0-60 in 3.4 secs and 0-100mph in 8.9!!!!
I really want one!
SlowStig said:
The BRM is as stated above, MEMS2J VVC 143 engine with close ratio LSD gearbox and sexy interior.
ZR160 is a MEMS3 VVC 160 engine with bigger brakes, lower and stiffer suspention, bigger wheels, quicker rack.
I personally preferr the BRM but the 160 is quicker overall and has the ability to be remapped due to the newer engine management system(mems3)
The BRM uses a TorSen torque biasing diff, rather than a pure LSD.ZR160 is a MEMS3 VVC 160 engine with bigger brakes, lower and stiffer suspention, bigger wheels, quicker rack.
I personally preferr the BRM but the 160 is quicker overall and has the ability to be remapped due to the newer engine management system(mems3)
Kitchski said:
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LouD86 said:
pilchardthecat said:
Please find someone with a Citroen BX 16v.....
Kitch on here has one!! And lovingly looked after too!! Believe he has just recommisoned it, having owned it for its got to be, 7 years plus now!How much do you want for it?
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