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I have to laugh at all the rotary excuses.
"Low on oil"
"Forum hearsay"
"Not warmed up and cooled down properly"
"People just don't know how to look after them"
Etc etc etc. The list is endless.
I had one, it done exactly the same. Without warning. It had full history, run on the correct oil, warmed up and cooled down, and had the coils replaced along with the cat. Yet still it died. I know of Rx8's local to me and each and every one have had problems.
It's such a shame too because they really are a fantastic handling car.
"Low on oil"
"Forum hearsay"
"Not warmed up and cooled down properly"
"People just don't know how to look after them"
Etc etc etc. The list is endless.
I had one, it done exactly the same. Without warning. It had full history, run on the correct oil, warmed up and cooled down, and had the coils replaced along with the cat. Yet still it died. I know of Rx8's local to me and each and every one have had problems.
It's such a shame too because they really are a fantastic handling car.
otolith said:
Pommygranite said:
That's my point though - if it had the 2.3 MPS Turbo or a 6 cyl the RX8 would never have dropped to £2k after 8 years and now be scrap. I would say they still be fetching £6-8k after 7 years.
Suspect that it would have bombed like the MX-6 - just a bit pointless.LotusAlfaV6bloke said:
...He then links his old Astra to motorsport heritage out desperation, a bit like if Dale had linked his own car to the 787 Mazda that won Lemans!
Hahaha.The GM 2L 16v redtop is a legend. Ask anyone who knows anything about cars.
The only thing legendary about the wankel is its unreliability.
Didn't quote the rest of that post from me then 
To be clear, I really do like your GTE. It reminds me of that time in my younger car years of Mk1 Golfs, Uno Turbos, and 205 GTIs (mine was only a 1.4 sport fake as the insurance was too much for my pocket
)
Top work having it in that condition 20 years later, it looks like a peach. In another 10 years people will flock to it all misty eyed at shows (if not already).
To be clear, I really do like your GTE. It reminds me of that time in my younger car years of Mk1 Golfs, Uno Turbos, and 205 GTIs (mine was only a 1.4 sport fake as the insurance was too much for my pocket
)Top work having it in that condition 20 years later, it looks like a peach. In another 10 years people will flock to it all misty eyed at shows (if not already).
Loads of comments on the used value of the RX8 and how pathetic they are, due to reliability, etc etc
Cast your eye to the classifieds pages, click Nissan 350z, on sale in 2003 from £25k up to £30k, Rx8 on sale in 2003 £20k to £23k!
Please report back with your findings
Cast your eye to the classifieds pages, click Nissan 350z, on sale in 2003 from £25k up to £30k, Rx8 on sale in 2003 £20k to £23k!
Please report back with your findings
Edited by RX7 on Friday 31st August 12:48
Pommygranite said:
otolith said:
Pommygranite said:
That's my point though - if it had the 2.3 MPS Turbo or a 6 cyl the RX8 would never have dropped to £2k after 8 years and now be scrap. I would say they still be fetching £6-8k after 7 years.
Suspect that it would have bombed like the MX-6 - just a bit pointless.You end up with a BMW 3-series from a non-premium brand, and nobody wants that.
You can't have your cake and eat it, I'm afraid.
(you can shoehorn a bigger engine in there aftermarket, but then you don't have to comply with any pedcestrian safety legislation)
LotusAlfaV6bloke said:
I thought the suicide doors were a good feature, and got lots of people talking at the time. Not sure why more manufacturers didnt do this interesting approach?
Because manufacturers want to play safe, most of the public won't buy anything too radical, hence neutral driving Audis as top sellers. I love my RX-8 and will do to the day it may or may not die. Handles better than a 911 C2s I drove, 2008 model.
RX7 said:
Loads of comments on the used value of the RX8 and how pathetic they are, due to reliability, etc etc
Cast your eye to the classifieds pages, click Nissan 350z, on sale in 2003 from £25k up to £30k, Rx8 on sale in 2003 £20k to £23k!
Please report back with your findings
350Zs seem to be really holding their value actually. I was hoping they'd plummet like the RX8 as I quite fancy one (sound lovely with the right exhaust!!) Cast your eye to the classifieds pages, click Nissan 350z, on sale in 2003 from £25k up to £30k, Rx8 on sale in 2003 £20k to £23k!
Please report back with your findings
Edited by RX7 on Friday 31st August 12:48
St John Smythe said:
350Zs seem to be really holding their value actually. I was hoping they'd plummet like the RX8 as I quite fancy one (sound lovely with the right exhaust!!)
Perhaps i am looking at the wrong classifieds, £4 - £5k will buy you a 350z and whilst they were minimum £2k difference new, im not sure at that point the low 2nd values holds to much sway. I would like to reconvene 9 - 10 years from now and see what the GT86 2nd values are like!
Its a buyers market on pretty much any car these days!
We suffered a decent chunk of depreciation on our RX-8 - an 05 plate bought 12 months old and kept for three years. Prices were badly hit by a number of factors quite apart from any reliability concerns - rising petrol prices, rising VED prices (didn't seem to matter if your car was old enough not to be clobbered, anything a bit juicy suffered) and huge oversupply. Mazda sold something like three times as many RX-8s in the UK as Nissan sold 350Zs - about 25,500 versus about 8250. Mazda sold more RX-8s in 2004 than Nissan sold 350Zs ever. A surprising number were company cars. When they hit the used market three years later, the supply for 20mpg coupes swamped the demand and the prices took a tumble. Once a thirsty car drops below a certain sort of price, it moves into a market occupied mostly by people who can't afford to run it, and the depreciation gets worse.
I don't regret owning it, they are lovely cars to drive if you like that sort of thing (and I do). Quite possible that there won't be any more rotary engined cars coming to Europe, so it was an experience that might not be available in future.
I don't regret owning it, they are lovely cars to drive if you like that sort of thing (and I do). Quite possible that there won't be any more rotary engined cars coming to Europe, so it was an experience that might not be available in future.
otolith said:
Pommygranite said:
otolith said:
Pommygranite said:
That's my point though - if it had the 2.3 MPS Turbo or a 6 cyl the RX8 would never have dropped to £2k after 8 years and now be scrap. I would say they still be fetching £6-8k after 7 years.
Suspect that it would have bombed like the MX-6 - just a bit pointless.You end up with a BMW 3-series from a non-premium brand, and nobody wants that.
You can't have your cake and eat it, I'm afraid.
(you can shoehorn a bigger engine in there aftermarket, but then you don't have to comply with any pedcestrian safety legislation)
Handling can be resolved with a decent set up.
For reference the RX8 engine weighs 122kg and the BMW M52 engine (for example) weighs 160kg shows that the RX8 engine isn't massively lighter than a random bigger engine.
The fact is Mazda got the car right and engine wrong and the car could have had an alternative engine.
Could it be that the RX-8 with the right and powerful enough engine would have been a nice proof that a front-mid engine car well resolved is a better handling car than mid engine ones. That is more progressive and predicable and easier to catch if slipping? Like a better Porsche 968? Too bad about that lack of power and the engine. b
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