RE: Mallory Park's future in doubt

RE: Mallory Park's future in doubt

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Alfahorn

7,776 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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I'm saddened to hear about the deterioration of relations between the circuit and local residents. I really like Mallory, it's not the most exciting of circuits but a very charming venue and a lovely village location.

I'm sorry to learn about the total lack of regard shown by the management of Mallory for their neighbours and ignoring the terms of their licence.

majortom

56 posts

134 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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I'm surprised at the positive comments thank you for listening I must admit I was expecting some negative quotes which I am sure will come.
Having done a little more investigating and looking at the parish council minutes because I'm sure something about planning was mentioned in one of the village meetings - apparently a lot of the work that has gone on has had no planning permission either - perhaps someone else out there can update us on that - I found the following quote by John Ward general manager - parish council minutes on Peckleton parish council website 28th Feb 2011 have a look for yourselves
http://peckleton.leicestershireparishcouncils.org/...

Mallory Park will not host any further Motor Cross World Championship events in the foreseeable future. This is due entirely to the lack of finance by the organisers.
- Consideration is being given to building a “Grass Track Oval” on the site of the Motor Cross World Championship coarse.


The residents have had to bear the wrath of MotoX supporters out there for closing the motocross track down- well well it seems that the management of Mallory Park can stoop no lower - they had every intention of closing it down, this was, as you can see quoted in 2011!!! and they had the cheek to blame us the residents once again !!! they have deliberately pointed the finger at us - how low will they stoop - I think every one out there should now know what we the residents are up against - apparently word is they never had planning permission to run the motocross anyway.

b0rk

2,315 posts

147 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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ukaskew said:
My local circuit is Castle Combe, who obviously have well documented noise issues. I don't know the exact numbers, but some sort of circuit activity seems to take place pretty much every other day as they look to expand their offerings to stay afloat.
Speaking of Combe I nearly ended up moving next the circuit in the mid 90's at time the agent advised on asking they ran most weekends and a couple of days per week but could do 200+ events per year in accordance with planning restrictions but no night events without explicit permission. The noise then was predominately tyre squeal not exhaust and really wasn't that bad. I understood the owners regularly liaised with the locals to understand any problems/issues and resolve accordingly.

Mallory park appears to have opted for the alternative route ignore the locals, run as many events as possible (at any price) and operate night time events including drifting. Surely the solution for Mallory is run fewer events but at a higher price thus staying within the planning limit. Thruxton and Goodwood appear to still be viable with such restrictions. Probably would mean an end to the drifting events and cheap car days.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

245 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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majortom said:
I'm surprised at the positive comments thank you for listening I must admit I was expecting some negative quotes which I am sure will come.
Having done a little more investigating and looking at the parish council minutes because I'm sure something about planning was mentioned in one of the village meetings - apparently a lot of the work that has gone on has had no planning permission either - perhaps someone else out there can update us on that - I found the following quote by John Ward general manager - parish council minutes on Peckleton parish council website 28th Feb 2011 have a look for yourselves
http://peckleton.leicestershireparishcouncils.org/...

Mallory Park will not host any further Motor Cross World Championship events in the foreseeable future. This is due entirely to the lack of finance by the organisers.
- Consideration is being given to building a “Grass Track Oval” on the site of the Motor Cross World Championship coarse.


The residents have had to bear the wrath of MotoX supporters out there for closing the motocross track down- well well it seems that the management of Mallory Park can stoop no lower - they had every intention of closing it down, this was, as you can see quoted in 2011!!! and they had the cheek to blame us the residents once again !!! they have deliberately pointed the finger at us - how low will they stoop - I think every one out there should now know what we the residents are up against - apparently word is they never had planning permission to run the motocross anyway.
It is good to read your balanced view. I hope the villagers can be persuaded that Mallory Park has a sustainable future. Circuits such as Goodwood have shown that it is possible to develop an 'old' race circuit in a way that actually enhances the local community. I can see Mallory as a 'Goodwood of the Midlands'. It suits historic cars, it is picturesque and is surrounded by many villages that could benefit from the type of customer that makes a weekend out of historic motorsport. Mallory Park has three modern circuits within a 45 minute drive. It cannot compete with them for big events, so needs to have a different business model.

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Redlake27 said:
It is good to read your balanced view. I hope the villagers can be persuaded that Mallory Park has a sustainable future. Circuits such as Goodwood have shown that it is possible to develop an 'old' race circuit in a way that actually enhances the local community. I can see Mallory as a 'Goodwood of the Midlands'. It suits historic cars, it is picturesque and is surrounded by many villages that could benefit from the type of customer that makes a weekend out of historic motorsport. Mallory Park has three modern circuits within a 45 minute drive. It cannot compete with them for big events, so needs to have a different business model.
I totally agree. It's good to hear a more complete story from a resident, and even better to see that that resident is a perfectly reasonable person who understands what the circuit is for, rather than a blind not-in-my-back-yard type! I'm only ten miles from Mallory so really do have a vested interest in it staying open, too many childhood memories for a start.

In a way, while the current management have clearly made a huge crop of "mistakes", shall we call them, I think this news actually bodes well for the circuit. It appears that the breakdown of relations isn't because the residents can't tolerate a race circuit nearby - it's because there was an agreement in place that the circuit continually breached. Racing is my passion and it always will be, but even I can fully understand objecting to that.

The bright side, however, is that the current management can't possibly last long and clearly need to be ousted. If the circuit is taken over by a fresh team - and given its history and excellent potential, as Redlake says, I think it would be pretty quickly - then I really do think it can continue to operate within the agreements. As the objections seem to be for breaching the agreements, not the principle of the circuit itself existing, then I think the residents could be perfectly happy with that. Which would be a nice result for us all smile

majortom

56 posts

134 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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DonkeyApple said:
Just another sorry case of incompetant and dishonest Motorsport businessmen.

The best thing for Mallory is to go bust and get rid of the cretins who have run it to this point, put it in debt and yet appear to have made good money out of it.

These aren't Nimbys complaining but normal people who the owners of Mallory thought they could lie, deceive and abuse.
could not put it better my self - thank you truth will finally prevail

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Isnt the current management of Mallory Park the BARC


BARC also run Croft, who have issues. thruxton and Pembrey. Pembrey is fine if you are welsh, otherwise Im always worried about ending up as the wicker man!!!

Compromiseplease

1 posts

134 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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I think I can add a few facts here. Firstly it is very much the case that the majority of the village wish the track to remain operating & indeed the few people who have said 'close the dam track' have said so out of prolonged frustration with both the Track Management & the local Council.

Contrary to popular belief Most residents have no issue with the noise, you move to Mallory of course you expect noise, we're not stupid, for most having the track here is a good thing, we like it, we like you (apart from those of you who use the Churchyard as a toilet & crap everywhere, that's just plain disgusting!) However the big issue here is FREQUENCY! Mallory Park can currently operate 92 'noisy' days/year, including 40 race days & 52 Wednesdays, this has been the case since the Overends were owners & the 1985 Stat Notice. Last year Mallory park exceeded 260 'noisy' days, 2011 was even worse.

The other 'issue' which generally hasn't been discussed but was mentioned above is that over the last 3 years Mallory Park have made massive changes to the landscaping to create better spectator viewing. Unfortunately the majority of this was done without any Acoustic expertise being considered or indeed Planning Permission sought! Even the operations that did have Planning Permission have not had the landscaping completed to the permission & still has a number of outstanding actions to be completed by BARC, including the measures to reduce noise impact to the village. It is widely viewed here that noise levels have increased since all of this work was undertaken, clearly accoustics to the village have been changed, maybe having consulted an expert prior to the work would have been a good idea???

Please be assured that the residents do not wish to impact your enjoyment of Mallory Park or that the Liaison Reps are out to close it down, they have simply on all of our behalf tried to get to the bottom of the truth of it all, they have been lied to by the Council & the track which is why it has got to this stage. The council have failed to protect the residents over the last few years & are now being held to account by a complaint to the Ombudsman by 47 residents, maybe this is why they are now doing their job & looking at the legal breaches made by Mallory Park?

The 160 days that the track are throwing around as their minimum to run a viable operation is news to us, the point of (the cancelled) last Wednesdays meeting was not to make a decision of closure or not but was an opportunity for the track to present their 'final' proposal to the residents (at the tracks request) so that residents could listen, digest, discuss and then go away to consider their own opinion & to then make that known to the Council. Are we to assume that 160 days is their proposal? If so great! That's something residents can look at now can't they!? It was a shame that the meeting had to be cancelled due to the track NOT providing their proposal & certainly all the threats coming our way from social media sources didn't help matters.

The residents have ALWAYS been OPEN to negotiations, we understand that Saturdays are important for the track (currently a 'no use' day), we understand that since they lost BSB they are under pressure to make more money & so their requirements have changed, so talk to us, not dictate to us & certainly not just think 'sod 'em & sod the law!'

It's not NIMBYism, it's 'protect your rights when people are taking the piss-ism'. Poor Management by BARC, even worse management by Hinckly & Bosworth Borough Council = Large volume of complaints, if this had been managed correctly all of this WOULD have been avoided! A sad fact.

Please take heart lovely people regardless of the propaganda you may be reading the residents DO want to have a positive outcome & we want to see you having fun at Mallory in the future! Maybe some pressure should be applied to the Council & BARC to start being honest with the 1000's of users/supporters by telling the truth & to get their fingers out of their overpaid aholes & to get this resolved quickly!? Just a thought!

Redlake27

2,255 posts

245 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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I never thought I'd say this, but bring on electric racing.....

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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An email doing the rounds:

Mallory Park - The following has been sent to all "Friends of Mallory" -

This mail is to bring you up to date on all activity related to the noise issues at Mallory Park/Kirkby Mallory and ask for your action if you value the continued operation of the circuit. I will keep this as brief and to the point as possible - although there is a lot to go through.

1: A small group of Friends and circuit management met on 13th December after an open invite (six attendees in total). The discussion was wide ranging and included the agreement Mallory came to with Hinckley and Bosworth Borough Council on 2013 operation in November that was then subsequently rejected by the Liaison Group on behalf of the residents. The Council then refused to implement the November agreement as it did not have the support of the Liaison Group.

It is our understanding that this proposal was not put to the Kirkby Mallory residents en masse by the Liaison Group.

The abridged highlights of the November 2012 proposed agreement with the Council are:
The cessation of all motocross activity
Agreement to spend £100,000+ on the erection of minimum of 130m of acoustic fencing to reduce noise at various points on the circuit - subject to planning permission
Installation of noise monitoring systems to be put in place
Agreement to limit use of the Hairpin section of track on quiet days
10 x 2-day weekend events allowed per year
18 Saturdays per year at 98dba, no more than two of these per calendar month
40 race days per year
Saturday/Sunday quiet day agreed to 45-55dba
Weekday use - 3 per week, subject to ACU 105db and MSA 108dba levels
Two quiet weekdays per week agreed at 45-55dba
Special events e.g. Festival of 1000 Bikes require noise management plan to be approved and 2 compensatory No Use days the weekend following or preceding
An annual calendar of events to be agreed with HBBC and published on its website.
5-year review of new agreement or when requested by HBBC or Mallory Park.
Mallory Park's interpretation of this is that a max usage per year by the circuit of 217 days, but due to the noted restraints and seasonality of the circuit activity, expectations are at approximately 160-days use per year - all with new noise reduction measures implemented (Background is that the circuit has been operating for 28-years since the 1985 agreement with anywhere between 160-220 days used per year at 98dba noise level or above). This November 2012 proposed agreement represents a 20% reduction on activity with increased noise control/reduction measures on recent activity.

Mallory Park is currently operating to this November 2012 agreement for 2013 and this is our favoured way forward if possible as it is financially viable.

2: Following the Council's decision not to implement the November 2012 proposed agreement, Mallory Park then spoke directly to Garry Ball and the Liaison Group with the aim of coming to an agreement together with the residents and then presenting a untied front to the Council.

We met at Garry's home on 23rd January and in Mallory Park's interpretation the discussion was generally positive and there appeared to be a willingness to negotiate and come to an agreed way forward.

After this a number of communications went back and forth from both sides suggesting possible compromise operational levels. The basics of this discussion were:
The Liaison Group offered guidance advice on what it thought would be acceptable and would recommend or put to residents
After further clarification of the 1985 agreement and note of hard attitudes in the village, Garry advised that the responsibility to act now lies with the Council. Mallory agrees the Council is key to moving forward with a negotiated solution
The abridged details (in Mallory's opinion) of discussions with Garry and the Liaison Committee included:
Mallory requested a special permit for the Festival of 1000 Bikes to be un-silenced due to the nature of older machines. There appeared to be willingness to negotiate to come to a solution here
Mallory suggested No Use days be re-classified as Non Motorsport and a DB level applied at 65db (normal road silenced car is rated at 80db). Garry indicated if residents cannot hear the activity then no problem
Garry had proposed an equal number of noisy/no use weekend days per four-week cycle. Effectively out of 16 days, 8 for use and 8 non use. Mallory requested this to change to 12 days use out of every 16 with an emphasis on the summer months due to seasonality. Garry then suggested 26x 2-day weekend usage as a compromise. Mallory Park is broadly agreeable to this
Liaison Group has no issue with Wednesday test days
Despite running at ACU/MSA noise levels for three weekdays for the last 28-years, the Council has now interpreted that noise levels must be 45db-55db. This is a significant change from previous understanding and the Liaison Group is supporting this interpretation. If applied, this is a significant threat to the operation of the circuit
Mallory requested the Windmill Field be used for a grass track demonstration during the Festival of 1000 Bikes and the rest of the year it would be for parking and camping only. Garry asked if Mallory could use the old moto cross track instead. This could not work as not flat enough to allow grass track riding
A full published calendar was agreed
No drifting at all at the circuit was agreed
Garry requires any new agreement to be enforced in law. Mallory is agreeable to this.
It is Mallory's opinion that the above discussions were productive but the onus for agreement has now moved to the Council rather than with the Liaison Group. It is residents' influence on the Council that will assist with further negotiations and solutions.

3: The Council has now served legal proceedings against Mallory Park for five breeches of the 1985 agreement from 2012. It has also indicated that mid-week the circuit can only operate on a Wednesday at noisy levels. It will enforce all positions from 1st April 2013.

4: Jason Newbury from the Parish Council met with John Ward and myself on 18th February to try and determine Mallory Park's side of the story. We agreed to share what we could with him so that the Parish Council could display a balanced view.

5: On the same evening a letter from the Liaison Group was distributed to the village, provoking a vocal response from pro-circuit residents.

6: Moving forward

BARC is now taking legal advice on the court summons by the Council. I can say nothing more at this time as this is a very complex area of law.

It is clear that the Council has heard little support from residents supporting the continued operation of the circuit.

The circuit remains committed to working with residents and the Council in an attempt to remain financially viable and operational. It is prepared to negotiate as required so that all parties can move forward with confidence.

7: MALLORY PARK KINDLY REQUESTS

A: If you wish the circuit to continue operating, then please write to Steve Atkinson at Hinckley and Bosworth Borough Council. He needs to know that there are residents that support the circuit. To help structure your communication to him, please consider the following discussion points.

B: Would you be agreeable to the operational levels mentioned in point 1 above? If yes, please tell him so.

C: If you are not agreeable to the above point 1 would you be supportive to a cessation of HBBC legal action and a short time-frame of negotiations to take place with a view to reaching a compromise solution that will allow the circuit to continue operating?

D: We request that you speak with your neighbours and ask them to write to the Council as well, based on the above A-C points.

The address to direct all correspondence is:

Steve.Atkinson@hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk

Or

Steve Atkinson
Council Offices
Argents Mead
Hinckley
Leicestershire
LE10 1BZ

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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I've got to thank these residents for coming on here and presenting well-considered and articulate posts.

Some days I am genuinely embarrassed by some of the ludicrously ill-informed and juvenile posts on this website. It's cringe-worthy.

I'll continue to follow the story with interest and hope that a satisfactory resolution can be found.

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Indeed Im quite encouraged by the last few posts that a way forward can be found.. although relying on a council to sort things out has me worried, spent far to long working for/with them !!!

G



sjay47

1 posts

134 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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I worked for an insurance company calling on the residents of Krkby Mallory, which is not next door, but the circuit is IN the village. One summer's day I called on a Wednesday on an elderly couple, whose garden backed onto the track (by the hairpin). They had lived in the house all of their married lives (quite possibly 50 years I didnt ask!), and indeed they attended The races regularly. We were in the garden chatting, when the track reopened. The noise was unbeleivable, so much so, that we had to go inside to talk. They told me that noise levels had increased dramatically over the previous few years, and they were getting fed up with it. Personally I dont blame them - the noise was way too loud, and although the circuit has made improvements, they are not nearly enough, and have in no way taken into concern the residents - no earth banks, trees planted to deflect/absorb noise etc. Mallory has long been subject to noise issues, but they hold evening track events and now mx meetings. No wonder the residents have had enough. I personally visit The track both as spectator and competitor, so I have a vested interest in keeping the track open. Mallory MUST show willing, or it will be another race track consigned to the history books.

dingocooke

670 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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I have been going to Mallory since the early 70's as a teen, raced there in the 80's and 90's etc and even in the 70's era noise was an issue there; competitors were asked to be quiet in the paddock, running engines and practice not starting till 9am etc, but generally harmony was maintained.
Back then there were only a few major meetings a year, and club racing; it was a privately owned former airfield, and wasn't a corporate business; importantly track days didnt exist.
At the time the 92 events a year agreement came into force, that was more days than the circuit actually held events, so everyone breathed a huge sigh of relief.
Fast forward to now, and Mallory has a full calendar, lots of mid week track days, festival of a 1000 bikes etc etc along with MX which has moved to mallory because of losing another venue!

So, before we do the predictable PH thing and lambast them all as NIMBYS (and I am sure there are some), put yourself in their shoes:

Instead of car and bike engines which we love, imagine you moved into a house next to a small factory doing presswork and grinding, and when enquiring about restrictions on working hours before signing the contract the solicitor told you the factory had a restricted permit with the council that meant they could only work 92 days a year; thats one day in four, and didnt work in the evening. So you moved in under that legal agreement, accepting that amount of noise.
Fast forward a few years, and the same factory is now working 5 or 6 days a week, and into the early evenings in summer, and all you can hear in your garden is machinery.
It would be a breach of the agreement, and you would be a perfectly reasonable person to ask the council, and the factory to enforce the 92 day agreement.

I like Mallory Park for what it is, but the circuit have not kept to their side of the deal, and now theyre moaning; priceless!!!


majortom

56 posts

134 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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[quote=FurtiveFreddy]An email doing the rounds:

Mallory Park - The following has been sent to all "Friends of Mallory" -

This mail is to bring you up to date on all activity related to the noise issues at Mallory Park/Kirkby Mallory and ask for your action if you value the continued operation of the circuit. I will keep this as brief and to the point as possible - although there is a lot to go through.

1: A small group of Friends and circuit management met on 13th December after an open invite (six attendees in total). The discussion was wide ranging and included the agreement Mallory came to with Hinckley and Bosworth Borough Council on 2013 operation in November that was then subsequently rejected by the Liaison Group on behalf of the residents. The Council then refused to implement the November agreement as it did not have the support of the Liaison Group.

It is our understanding that this proposal was not put to the Kirkby Mallory residents en masse by the Liaison Group.

The abridged highlights of the November 2012 proposed agreement with the Council are:
The cessation of all motocross activity
Agreement to spend £100,000+ on the erection of minimum of 130m of acoustic fencing to reduce noise at various points on the circuit - subject to planning permission
Installation of noise monitoring systems to be put in place
Agreement to limit use of the Hairpin section of track on quiet days
10 x 2-day weekend events allowed per year
18 Saturdays per year at 98dba, no more than two of these per calendar month
40 race days per year
Saturday/Sunday quiet day agreed to 45-55dba
Weekday use - 3 per week, subject to ACU 105db and MSA 108dba levels
Two quiet weekdays per week agreed at 45-55dba
Special events e.g. Festival of 1000 Bikes require noise management plan to be approved and 2 compensatory No Use days the weekend following or preceding
An annual calendar of events to be agreed with HBBC and published on its website.
5-year review of new agreement or when requested by HBBC or Mallory Park.
Mallory Park's interpretation of this is that a max usage per year by the circuit of 217 days, but due to the noted restraints and seasonality of the circuit activity, expectations are at approximately 160-days use per year - all with new noise reduction measures implemented (Background is that the circuit has been operating for 28-years since the 1985 agreement with anywhere between 160-220 days used per year at 98dba noise level or above). This November 2012 proposed agreement represents a 20% reduction on activity with increased noise control/reduction measures on recent activity.

Mallory Park is currently operating to this November 2012 agreement for 2013 and this is our favoured way forward if possible as it is financially viable.

2: Following the Council's decision not to implement the November 2012 proposed agreement, Mallory Park then spoke directly to Garry Ball and the Liaison Group with the aim of coming to an agreement together with the residents and then presenting a untied front to the Council.

We met at Garry's home on 23rd January and in Mallory Park's interpretation the discussion was generally positive and there appeared to be a willingness to negotiate and come to an agreed way forward.

After this a number of communications went back and forth from both sides suggesting possible compromise operational levels. The basics of this discussion were:
The Liaison Group offered guidance advice on what it thought would be acceptable and would recommend or put to residents
After further clarification of the 1985 agreement and note of hard attitudes in the village, Garry advised that the responsibility to act now lies with the Council. Mallory agrees the Council is key to moving forward with a negotiated solution
The abridged details (in Mallory's opinion) of discussions with Garry and the Liaison Committee included:
Mallory requested a special permit for the Festival of 1000 Bikes to be un-silenced due to the nature of older machines. There appeared to be willingness to negotiate to come to a solution here
Mallory suggested No Use days be re-classified as Non Motorsport and a DB level applied at 65db (normal road silenced car is rated at 80db). Garry indicated if residents cannot hear the activity then no problem
Garry had proposed an equal number of noisy/no use weekend days per four-week cycle. Effectively out of 16 days, 8 for use and 8 non use. Mallory requested this to change to 12 days use out of every 16 with an emphasis on the summer months due to seasonality. Garry then suggested 26x 2-day weekend usage as a compromise. Mallory Park is broadly agreeable to this
Liaison Group has no issue with Wednesday test days
Despite running at ACU/MSA noise levels for three weekdays for the last 28-years, the Council has now interpreted that noise levels must be 45db-55db. This is a significant change from previous understanding and the Liaison Group is supporting this interpretation. If applied, this is a significant threat to the operation of the circuit
Mallory requested the Windmill Field be used for a grass track demonstration during the Festival of 1000 Bikes and the rest of the year it would be for parking and camping only. Garry asked if Mallory could use the old moto cross track instead. This could not work as not flat enough to allow grass track riding
A full published calendar was agreed
No drifting at all at the circuit was agreed
Garry requires any new agreement to be enforced in law. Mallory is agreeable to this.
It is Mallory's opinion that the above discussions were productive but the onus for agreement has now moved to the Council rather than with the Liaison Group. It is residents' influence on the Council that will assist with further negotiations and solutions.

3: The Council has now served legal proceedings against Mallory Park for five breeches of the 1985 agreement from 2012. It has also indicated that mid-week the circuit can only operate on a Wednesday at noisy levels. It will enforce all positions from 1st April 2013.

4: Jason Newbury from the Parish Council met with John Ward and myself on 18th February to try and determine Mallory Park's side of the story. We agreed to share what we could with him so that the Parish Council could display a balanced view.

5: On the same evening a letter from the Liaison Group was distributed to the village, provoking a vocal response from pro-circuit residents.

6: Moving forward

BARC is now taking legal advice on the court summons by the Council. I can say nothing more at this time as this is a very complex area of law.

It is clear that the Council has heard little support from residents supporting the continued operation of the circuit.

The circuit remains committed to working with residents and the Council in an attempt to remain financially viable and operational. It is prepared to negotiate as required so that all parties can move forward with confidence.

7: MALLORY PARK KINDLY REQUESTS

A: If you wish the circuit to continue operating, then please write to Steve Atkinson at Hinckley and Bosworth Borough Council. He needs to know that there are residents that support the circuit. To help structure your communication to him, please consider the following discussion points.

B: Would you be agreeable to the operational levels mentioned in point 1 above? If yes, please tell him so.

C: If you are not agreeable to the above point 1 would you be supportive to a cessation of HBBC legal action and a short time-frame of negotiations to take place with a view to reaching a compromise solution that will allow the circuit to continue operating?

D: We request that you speak with your neighbours and ask them to write to the Council as well, based on the above A-C points.

The address to direct all correspondence is:

Steve.Atkinson@hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk

Or

Steve Atkinson
Council Offices
Argents Mead
Hinckley
Leicestershire
LE10 1BZ[/quote



This is the last proposal that I received through my letterbox about two weeks ago, what it does not show is that it was sent by a Mr Jason McClean whom I have been told is the PR for BARC. This shows clearly the vast increase that Mallory Park want, and is totally one sided. is it any wonder that some residents oppose this after what we have been subjected to. They already have 92 noisy days a year which is far in excess of Croft, Thruxton and Goodwood and probably many others. they still have 3 quiet days a week to use under the 85 agreement. As I stated in my last post that is 5 working days!!!! It has been explained to me that this proposal wipes away our 2 no use days and replaces them with two quiet days and then the three quiet days we have will be replaced by more noisy days !!! they want to use it 7 days of the week and predominantly in the summer months - this means as in the last few years residents still have to suffer the horrendous noise and on some occasions in some areas of the village fumes all summer. Is it so unreasonable then for the residents to want to keep to the 85 notice? something that had been put in place when the Overends were managing the track for nearly 20 years. Personally I for one would not endorse any more than what the 85 notice permits now because of the selfish attitude, mismanagement and the derogatory remarks towards individuals I have read on the internet.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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The BARC are a responsible enough organisation and they run Thruxton, Croft and their other circuits well enough not to attract this sort of attention, so I don't understand what's happened with Mallory?

Have the BARC just left the circuit to do whatever they want without monitoring the situation or are they complicit?

majortom

56 posts

134 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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BARC are well aware of what's going from my understanding and from what has been said in recent resident's meetings - I attended the meeting after the awesomefest at the track in 2011 and Denis Carter the CEO of BARC was there, I understand now that he has retired and they have a new CEO. Because they cant have bike track days at Thruxton and limited to 1 per year at Croft, we seem to have all the rubbish here that they cant hold anywhere else. Kirkby Mallory village is closer to the track than the other two circuits BARC run. You can make of it what you want but I am only stating facts here, like I said before I was a supporter of Mallory Park but now I have seen what the actual story is I can no longer support a business that continually breaches a legal notice. What hasn't been made clear is that HBBC are as much to blame because they have not been monitoring the situation although complaints had been made in the past,they seemed to of turned a blind eye to it all knowing full well what was going on so they have to take a large portion of the blame. Make of this what you will after all if they had controlled and made sure the track complied with the notice we would not be in this situation.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Well, it looks like the failings of a number of people/organisations are responsible for the situation as it stands.

We have so few Motorsports venues in this country, if those in charge of running them and enforcing existing restrictions are complacent then we'll slowly lose them all over time.

I wonder whether the council were ignoring the problems in the hope it would lead to a situation where they could shut the place down because someone in power there doesn't want a circuit at all?

To allow an event such as 'Awesomefest' to take place in 2011 just seems to be asking for trouble and it certainly seems to have been the last straw.

I feel sorry for both sides in this. I've raced at Mallory a few times and it's a great little track, but I fully sympathise with the local residents who have been treated like they don't exist by the circuit management and local council alike.

I hope a compromise can be reached which won't let either side feel they've lost.

majortom

56 posts

134 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Thank you so much for all your positive comments, we are not NIMBYS, but we have to have a compromise where we and the track can once again live in harmony a lot of give and take is needed and at this moment in time the track are doing all the taking!!! if the posted proposal is to go by. What do you all think? are we selfish in wanting a bit of ME time in the summer months again? The insurance guy with his post is absolutely right that is what it is like for many residents. The elected liaison committee have done a fantastic job to get us to where we are and they certainly don't deserve the abuse they have had to put up with but it seems that MPML don't want to play ball. HBBC need to stand up and do their job properly and take responsibility for neglecting us residents, after all don't we pay their wages? Thanks again for understanding the residents view or should I say some of the affected residents !!! after all I do understand that it does not affect all.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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majortom said:
if the posted proposal is to go by. What do you all think?
Let's assume noise is the main factor for the moment.
Some key points of the proposal with regard to noise are:

The cessation of all motocross activity
Agreement to spend £100,000+ on the erection of minimum of 130m of acoustic fencing to reduce noise at various points on the circuit - subject to planning permission
Installation of noise monitoring systems to be put in place
Agreement to limit use of the Hairpin section of track on quiet days
No drifting at all at the circuit was agreed

Discussing decibel limits here is going to be speculation on the whole as we have no idea what an acceptable limit is to each of the residents affected by noise. Presumably, the council have taken measurements at various places and have some objective analysis to base their proposed limits on? If not, this is something which needs to be done by someone independent. Figures agreed many years ago will probably have no meaning now if there have been changes to the topology, trees, grandstands, buildings etc. in the meantime.

It may be the case that properly installed acoustic fencing would reduce the noise to a level where it wouldn't matter how many 'noisy' days there are, but I doubt anyone has done the work to analyse exactly what difference it will make.

Often, it's not the level of noise which is the problem, but the type of noise. 2-stroke engines and tyre-squeal (particularly the continuous tyre-squeal you hear from drifting) have a very different sound signature to, say, a low-frequency large capacity race engine and although the level of noise could be similar, a lot of people would object to a background noise of tyre- squeal when they may be OK with less annoying engine sounds.

So my feeling would be that rather than negotiating numbers of days and arbitrary decibel limits, it would be better at this stage for an independent study to be commissioned which can examine and report on the acoustics and other environmental issues so everyone can make objective decisions based on measurements rather than guesswork.

Apart from noise, the other main aspect is what visitors to the circuit bring with them. Are they viewed as causing annoyance, disruption and being detrimental or do they bring business, investment and net worth to the local area? Presumably, at the moment, it's a bit of both but it might be that by changing the profile of the activities at the circuit, the visitor profile will change too and you'll have visitors putting money into the local community without giving them anything to complain about.

HTH!