Where have all the enthusiasts gone?
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St John Smythe said:
I've driven most of the South Island in New Zealand. It's ok, but I found most of the roads to be dead straight between towns. Head over to the Alps is my advice and hit the passes, Furka, St Bernard, etc. Nothing beats it 
Isle of Man is very good too IME, for just a short ferry ride away
St John Smythe said:
I've driven most of the South Island in New Zealand. It's ok, but I found most of the roads to be dead straight between towns. Head over to the Alps is my advice and hit the passes, Furka, St Bernard, etc. Nothing beats it
I've done some of the European Alps but not extensively. Planning to drive to a wedding in the Black Forest in May; might take the scenic route!IoM does appeal; will have to suggest it to the missus.
I found NZ really good; we drove right through the mountains with cracking views and some great roads IMO.
Also done the mountains of North Italy just South of Milan (2 hours South). Some good roads but easily the worst drivers of any nation; total psyco nutters.
Northern Spain (Picos mountains) is fun as well as the Pyrenees but that was in the van...!
The roads around here are pretty good out of the silly season; quite spoilt really.
Pistonheads is suffering from the same thing the rest of the internet is.
It's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying b
ds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.
;-)
It's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying b
ds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.;-)
alfabadass said:
Pistonheads is suffering from the same thing the rest of the internet is.
It's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying bds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.
;-)
What do you know? Italian cars are rubbish. It's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying b
ds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.;-)
alfabadass said:
Pistonheads is suffering from the same thing the rest of the internet is.
It's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying bds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.
;-)
I was wondering why the m135i was suddenly such a hot topicIt's no longer for enthusiasts, it's for everyone.
So you get a lot of annoying b
ds stting on everything and think they know about cars and st on decent cars with opinions they've got from Top Gear or down the pub.;-)
Lest we forget 
An enthusiast is...........
'a person who is very interested in and involved with a particular subject or activity'
However...........
Enthusiasm originally meant inspiration or possession by a divine afflatus or by the presence of a god. Johnson's Dictionary, the first comprehensive dictionary of the English language, defines enthusiasm as "a vain belief of private revelation; a vain confidence of divine favour or communication." In current English vernacular the word simply means intense enjoyment, interest, or approval.
And we now know where the expression 'Driving God' came from
.............
Originally, an enthusiast was a person possessed by a god.
And finally...........
Several Protestant sects of the 16th and 17th centuries were called enthusiastic. During the years that immediately followed the Glorious Revolution, "enthusiasm" was a British pejorative term for advocacy of any political or religious cause in public. Such "enthusiasm" was seen in the time around 1700 as the cause of the previous century's English Civil War and its attendant atrocities, and thus it was an absolute social sin to remind others of the war by engaging in enthusiasm. The Royal Society bylaws stipulated that any person discussing religion or politics at a Society meeting was to be summarily ejected for being an "enthusiast." During the 18th century, popular Methodists such as John Wesley or George Whitefield were accused of blind enthusiasm (i.e. fanaticism), a charge against which they defended themselves by distinguishing fanaticism from "religion of the heart."
So, who are the fanatics amongst us?
An enthusiast is...........
'a person who is very interested in and involved with a particular subject or activity'
However...........
Enthusiasm originally meant inspiration or possession by a divine afflatus or by the presence of a god. Johnson's Dictionary, the first comprehensive dictionary of the English language, defines enthusiasm as "a vain belief of private revelation; a vain confidence of divine favour or communication." In current English vernacular the word simply means intense enjoyment, interest, or approval.
And we now know where the expression 'Driving God' came from
.............Originally, an enthusiast was a person possessed by a god.
And finally...........
Several Protestant sects of the 16th and 17th centuries were called enthusiastic. During the years that immediately followed the Glorious Revolution, "enthusiasm" was a British pejorative term for advocacy of any political or religious cause in public. Such "enthusiasm" was seen in the time around 1700 as the cause of the previous century's English Civil War and its attendant atrocities, and thus it was an absolute social sin to remind others of the war by engaging in enthusiasm. The Royal Society bylaws stipulated that any person discussing religion or politics at a Society meeting was to be summarily ejected for being an "enthusiast." During the 18th century, popular Methodists such as John Wesley or George Whitefield were accused of blind enthusiasm (i.e. fanaticism), a charge against which they defended themselves by distinguishing fanaticism from "religion of the heart."
So, who are the fanatics amongst us?
V8RX7 said:
It does depend how you've been bought up - my Dad was a classic car dealer so I'm at the oily hands end of enthusiasm - if you don't get involved / modify the car how can you be attached to it ?
I can relate to this - I didn't realise just how much fun and rewarding it could be bringing a car that was ready for the scrapheap back to life and looking, going and handling 100% better than as it was new.I had so much fun doing this for my wife's MG that I decided to buy another Tamora and complete restore it to better than new, with new interior, handling mods and engine upgrade. It is very hard not to feel attached to such cars when so much love, money and attention has been put into them.
I used to always buy new cars, but after I lost £8k in depreciation in the last new car I bought, I would never buy new again - buying better bits for older cars and making them better than new is much more rewarding, if you like that sort of thing, of course.
chrisw666 said:
0a said:
My wardrobe is worth three times the value of my m135
I bought a used wardrobe and saved millions in depreciationThank goodness I only post here when I've got a bit of downtime at work.
anonymous said:
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You really are a muppet sometimes.You clearly can't even afford one so how would you know?
For a family man it's a cracking all round package and anyone who has £30k to spend on a car has far more of a clue than you.
The M135i isn't for all for sure but to just insult the car and anyone that drives it is simply retarded.
It's won all sorts of awards, it's a five star Evo car - maybe it's YOU that hasn't a clue (and clearly never driven one - yes I HAVE driven an old Boxster - oh and it BEAT the latest one on Top Gear too and isn't even a proper sports car)? I also detect a lot of bitterness in your posts - very telling.
Edited by Vladimir on Tuesday 28th January 18:01
Vladimir said:
You really are a muppet sometimes.
You clearly can't even afford one so how would you know?
For a family man it's a cracking all round package and anyone who has £30k to spend on a car has far more of a clue than you.
You couldn't make this sYou clearly can't even afford one so how would you know?
For a family man it's a cracking all round package and anyone who has £30k to spend on a car has far more of a clue than you.
t up. I refer you to my previous comment:chevronb37 said:
Total holier-than-thou nonsense.
Vladimir said:
You really are a muppet sometimes.
You clearly can't even afford one so how would you know?
For a family man it's a cracking all round package and anyone who has £30k to spend on a car has far more of a clue than you.
The M135i isn't for all for sure but to just insult the car and anyone that drives it is simply retarded.
It's won all sorts of awards, it's a five star Evo car - maybe it's YOU that hasn't a clue (and clearly never driven one - yes I HAVE driven an old Boxster - oh and it BEAT the latest one on Top Gear too and isn't even a proper sports car)? I also detect a lot of bitterness in your posts - very telling.
You're not very nice, are you?You clearly can't even afford one so how would you know?
For a family man it's a cracking all round package and anyone who has £30k to spend on a car has far more of a clue than you.
The M135i isn't for all for sure but to just insult the car and anyone that drives it is simply retarded.
It's won all sorts of awards, it's a five star Evo car - maybe it's YOU that hasn't a clue (and clearly never driven one - yes I HAVE driven an old Boxster - oh and it BEAT the latest one on Top Gear too and isn't even a proper sports car)? I also detect a lot of bitterness in your posts - very telling.
Edited by Vladimir on Tuesday 28th January 18:01
In a lot of your posts, you bang on about what you have and what you can afford more than anything else - like you 'need' to tell us all what you can afford.
You come over, on here at least, as a bit of a muppet who's always anxious to show off about what 'you' have - not the best of traits.
Very Alan Partridge-ish - even to quoting figures from Top Gear to prove (to yourself) you have a better car! lol
Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 28th January 18:19
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