Slow drivers on country lanes
Discussion
ChasW said:
GavinPearson said:
I find some of the comments on here absolutely staggering, particularly those of a driver of what should be a reasonably fast car who thinks that 60 on a country lane is excessive.
My early motoring career was spent in rural Leicestershire where there are lots of single track OS Yellow roads / lanes, i.e. you cannot get side by side unless one car uses the verge to get past. Most of the farmers and their wives would be driving at 60 in their 1300 Escort or similar and slowing appropriately for corners / horses / farm machinery coming the other way. More often than not, people would drive a little faster.
The only conclusions I can come to are that our definition of lane must be wildly different and that those who can't drive at 60 should stick to becoming paddock poseurs at the track days they attend while not actually going out to avoid being labelled "the mobile roadblock" or something similar.
My equivalent motoring career was in neighbouring rural Northants. There the typical 60mph+ merchants were the farmers sons' and young workers in modified hot hatches with CB radios. Occasional police roadblocks were a hazard - looking for rustlers! My early motoring career was spent in rural Leicestershire where there are lots of single track OS Yellow roads / lanes, i.e. you cannot get side by side unless one car uses the verge to get past. Most of the farmers and their wives would be driving at 60 in their 1300 Escort or similar and slowing appropriately for corners / horses / farm machinery coming the other way. More often than not, people would drive a little faster.
The only conclusions I can come to are that our definition of lane must be wildly different and that those who can't drive at 60 should stick to becoming paddock poseurs at the track days they attend while not actually going out to avoid being labelled "the mobile roadblock" or something similar.
That included speeds where it was physically possible to traverse the roads but relied upon farm and other traffic being home and parked up. 3 figures up Ermine Street white was not unknown and yes I know technically that's in Lincolnshire but simply used for illustration.
It was the realisation of the potential consequences of travelling at the sort of pace required to be competitive on events, even local area association restricteds never mind Motoring News rounds, that made me go closed road and stage events.
That was at night where there is, in theory, a chance of seeing lights of other vehicles. Nobody really thought about pedestrians staggering home from the pub etc. The pace was inappropriate at night if I am being honest, in daylight just nuts. Not proud of it, just being honest.
Exhortations to go paddock posing can stick it.
Bill said:
m4tti said:
Even pilots suffer from human error...
But he does 37 thousand to 42 thousand miles a year.
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Mave said:
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Pan Pan said:
Mave said:
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Johnnytheboy said:
Pan Pan said:
Mave said:
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Mave said:
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
Pan Pan said:
IF they hold up those who want to legally travel at the posted limit, then the answer is no, they do not have the right to travel at their speed of choice. They should either travel at the speed of the 85th percentile and abide by the rules of the road, and if they cannot do this, either pull over to let those who wish to, exercise `their' legal right to travel at the posted limit, or get off the the roads.
Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
Are you mentally deficient. Of course the police aren't going to pull someone doing say 35mph - 40mph down a nsl country lane. The car travelling below the limit could have all manner of reasons for doing it.. child on board, dog in the back, un-familiar with the roads.Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
Pan Pan said:
IF they hold up those who want to legally travel at the posted limit, then the answer is no, they do not have the right to travel at their speed of choice.
There are sections of derestricted road near me where it is not safe IMHO to travel at 60mph. Are you saying I do not have a right to travel at the speed I deem safe because you want to go faster?Pan Pan said:
IF they hold up those who want to legally travel at the posted limit, then the answer is no, they do not have the right to travel at their speed of choice. They should either travel at the speed of the 85th percentile and abide by the rules of the road, and if they cannot do this, either pull over to let those who wish to, exercise `their' legal right to travel at the posted limit, or get off the the roads.
Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
Yes because we are constantly reading about how Neville (61) was prosecuted with the full force of the law for failing to obtain a speed high enough for some chunk on the internet.... Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
And I would be interested to read how you have the "right" to travel at the posted limit?
Pan Pan said:
Mave said:
Pan Pan said:
and just wants to use the roads for a short potter down to the local shops. You should really try to see roads use from the perspective of high mileage drivers, not just from your own blinkered, limited view.
Do you think someone who wants to potter to the shops has any less right to drive at their speed of choice than you? Maybe you should really try to see roads from the perspective of low mileage drivers rather than your own blinkered view...Just as they can prosecute those who travel too fast, the police can equally prosecute those who deliberately cause a rolling road block obstruction on public roads.
As far as common sense goes, it is still utter balls.
If they're going too slowly for you - overtake. If you can't overtake - wait until you can.
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