Which of these would you enjoy driving more as a daily?
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300bhp/ton said:
St John Smythe said:
ORD said:
I've never understood the mentality of people who run 5,6,7 or 8 crap cars rather than 2 or 3 good ones. You can only drive one at a time!
Have to agree with this. 300, why not sell all your cars and buy something really decent/special?To counter the diesel repmobile argument - why would you waste a decent car stuck in traffic, getting more and more pissed off as 'quirks' turn into major drawbacks when you could have been in a warm comfy music booth that costs half as much to run?
I'm commuting in an EP3 type R at the moment so it's not that I don't 'get' having something half-special for the daily slog, but it replaced a mk3 mondeo. I couldn't honestly say that the slip road VTEC moments are outweighing the comfort and refinement while sat in queues of traffic. Equivalent, possibly, but there's no way I'd say I've improved - it's just different.
Going back to the original post, my money would be on the BMW. They're not the last word in handling or performance but they're a solid and enjoyable steer that manages to do regular life stuff very well while remaining just a little bit special. There's enough to keep you excited when a nice A road presents itself, and enough to keep you comfortable and entertained in a motorway queue. MR2s are lovely steers but you can't fit enough in them, and minis aren't refined or reliable enough for it to be a stress-free experience, which is ultimately what you're after I'd guess.
They're all good cars, and they'd all do the job.
I'm commuting in an EP3 type R at the moment so it's not that I don't 'get' having something half-special for the daily slog, but it replaced a mk3 mondeo. I couldn't honestly say that the slip road VTEC moments are outweighing the comfort and refinement while sat in queues of traffic. Equivalent, possibly, but there's no way I'd say I've improved - it's just different.
Going back to the original post, my money would be on the BMW. They're not the last word in handling or performance but they're a solid and enjoyable steer that manages to do regular life stuff very well while remaining just a little bit special. There's enough to keep you excited when a nice A road presents itself, and enough to keep you comfortable and entertained in a motorway queue. MR2s are lovely steers but you can't fit enough in them, and minis aren't refined or reliable enough for it to be a stress-free experience, which is ultimately what you're after I'd guess.
They're all good cars, and they'd all do the job.
CorvetteConvert said:
300bhp, could you reply to my question and that of the other posters, as to why you have 8 cars, how you can afford to keep 8 cars (if you really do have them of course?).
Why not have 3 decent cars instead, as others have asked?
TR7 = bought in 2001 for £1500. Converted to V8 in 2001, ran as daily. Never saw the need to sell it. Take it to classics cars shows, autosolos and other events. This was my 2nd TR7, first being bought in 1999 for £1500. Including buying both cars and all mods and work over the years I think it's cost £10-12k, but all of this was spread out and no large payments.Why not have 3 decent cars instead, as others have asked?
I was at uni when I bought the car.
Camaro = the only inheritance money I got I bought this car, forget the year. 2003/4. I paid £7500 for it. Most expensive car I've owned. Has cost peanuts to keep.
Impreza = Bought off a mate for £1600 as at the time I needed a four door family car. The AWD was handy as an extra means to get to work. Engine went on it. Car was too tidy to scrap and scrapping would mean I'd lose out on what I paid for it. I could break it, but that's long winded, a lot of effort and I didn't. I looked at 2nd hand engines and they all went for £800-1200 and obviously come with risk. In the end I spent about £2k getting the engine rebuilt by API Impreza. So I'd like to keep it to at least get some return on the outlay. Had I have known the engine would need rebuilding, I may not have bought it.
Land Rover 88 = Was given to me in exchange for a debt owed (debt £600). I used it for a bit, until I bent the rear cross member recovering a Defender at trial. On trying to replace the cross member it was apparent it needed a new chassis. So it is currently being rebuilt with a replacement chassis. I 'may' consider selling it once it's finished. But in pieces it's not worth much.
Other Land Rover 88 special = Modified for competition use. More of off road than on road use. Currently in a friends workshop, as it's about 90% complete. But haven't had time to work on it recently due to rebuilding the other Land Rover. When this one is up and running, it will make the decision on selling the other. This is a competition vehicle.
T-Bird = bought on a whim for £120 off ebay. No real reason other than wild ideas. Someone had just keyed my Camaro and badly damaged the entire side. I had thoughts of a rat rod style Yank that I wouldn't mind parking places. However things changed (I used to park for the station, where Camaro was damaged). But transferred offices and starting driving to work. T-Bird is worth £80-100 scrap, so really it can just sit there for now, not worth weighing in. And I may yet do something with it.
Roadster = bought for commuting. At the time I was working on client site and doing 190 miles a day, so I wanted something good on fuel. This is the only car I've bought on finance (all paid off several years ago). I got a good deal on the car as my brother worked at a Kia Dealership, who were selling the car. I also wangled a deal under the scrappage scheme to get shot of the car I had at the time with someone who was buying a new Kia. I've more than had my monies worth out of the Roadster. But I've done a lot of miles in it now.
Range Rover = bought recently (couple of months ago). Because I was in a situation to do so. My aim was to replace the Impreza, as frankly I was finding I wasn't enjoying the Subaru as much as I thought I would. I also found when away on holiday it prevented me doing certain things that you need a 4x4 for. Also people I carried in the back of the Subaru complained about forward visibility as the front seats are wide. So sort of defeated the point of having it as a family wagon. I also bought the Range Rover as my girl friend says the Series III Land Rover is too tall to get in and out of and the Roadster too low.
In terms of outlay.
Purchase prices:
TR7 = £1500
88 = £600
other 88 = £125
T-Bird = £120
Range Rover = £2500
Subaru = £1600
Camaro = £7500
Roadster = £3200
Does that answer your question?
And for the record, I don't have wealthy parents, or anyone else to help me out or give me money. There is nobody. I've never been given loads of money and the only inheritance was £5k, which I put towards the Camaro, £1k I already had and I had to borrow the last £1500.
I'm not a property owner either.
Given my starting point and means I think I've done ok. Sure I could have bought a 3 year old 1.6 Focus for about the same money total. But that'd be pretty boring.
300bhp/ton said:
thewildblue said:
What about an old 924....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-PORSCHE-924-SILVER-...
Or an MX5....
The 924 will probably be better on fuel....they are supposed to be capable of up to 40mpg..
924's look great and I'd really like one. But I think buying one as a daily would run the risk of it becoming too much of a project vehicle. Now if I didn't have any other cars, I think this would be a fair trade off. But I currently have plenty of other vehicles that fulfil that role. And I really don't need another project vehicle.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-PORSCHE-924-SILVER-...
Or an MX5....
The 924 will probably be better on fuel....they are supposed to be capable of up to 40mpg..
It's the same reason why I'm not considering a classic Mini, as I think one would suit very well for my intended use. But I know that such a vehicle will just want to soak up too much time and money for this use.
MX-5, just don't really like the look of them and I think they would struggle on the MPG front.
luckystrike said:
To counter the diesel repmobile argument - why would you waste a decent car stuck in traffic, getting more and more pissed off as 'quirks' turn into major drawbacks when you could have been in a warm comfy music booth that costs half as much to run?
Without wanting to sound argumentative. I simply don't follow this.The Roadster is more than comfy enough, doesn't have any quirks that annoy me on the commute and averages 52-55mpg (upto 60mpg in the summer).
How would a diesel remobile improve on any of these things?
As for the cars I'm considering. Like I said earlier, I've seen 323i's from £700. I think you'd be hard pushed to find a diesel at this price level.
Now lets say I'd consider a 320d. Chances are you'll buy less 320d than 325i for your money, i.e. it will be higher mileage, lower spec, probably less tidy. And from the drivers seat won't look any different or be more comfy.
In terms of cost, well the 320d should be better on fuel. I don't know what they return, but I'd wager 40-45mpg vs 33-35mpg for the petrol. That doesn't sound like half the running costs to me. And I know I'd enjoy the petrol more so.
luckystrike said:
I'm commuting in an EP3 type R at the moment so it's not that I don't 'get' having something half-special for the daily slog, but it replaced a mk3 mondeo. I couldn't honestly say that the slip road VTEC moments are outweighing the comfort and refinement while sat in queues of traffic. Equivalent, possibly, but there's no way I'd say I've improved - it's just different.
Half my journey is good hooning roads. So a fun car gets used for fun every journey at some point.300bhp/ton said:
And for the record, I don't have wealthy parents, or anyone else to help me out or give me money. There is nobody. I've never been given loads of money and the only inheritance was £5k, which I put towards the Camaro, £1k I already had and I had to borrow the last £1500.
I'm not a property owner either.
Given my starting point and means I think I've done ok. Sure I could have bought a 3 year old 1.6 Focus for about the same money total. But that'd be pretty boring.
I hate to say it, but well done 300!I'm not a property owner either.
Given my starting point and means I think I've done ok. Sure I could have bought a 3 year old 1.6 Focus for about the same money total. But that'd be pretty boring.
Prioritising your passion over anything else and funding it yourself without finance/loans etc...
Having said that, I am still saying RX-8. f
k the fuel economy! 300bhp/ton said:
St John Smythe said:
Have you driven one?
Have you?Lets face it, you are avoiding my sensible questions and acting the politician and only responding by asking stupid questions.
When you answer my sensible questions, I'll consider answering your stupid ones.
This search for a new car is making you quite angry 300.
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