Will the 370z become a future classic?

[CABC]

doogz said:

I think it might. They're much rarer than the 350, and a much better car imo.

Who'd have thought that a tiny plastic car with a rover k series would be worth 15k at 15+ years old?

and it'll go up more too.

A lot people will now start speculating about what NA car to buy and keep. 911s & M3s will do very well as they epitomise NA.
So will smaller engined classics.
V6s fall between 2 stools though: not small and cheap to run (rfl may sting in the future), yet not properly big either, ie V8, V12.
There are other cars to reach classic status first i think.

[lostkiwi]

sealtt said:

xRIEx said:

I think the fact there aren't very many will help values firm up - supply and demand. As a large NA-engined car I think it will hold an appeal to someone wanting an alternative to smaller turbocharged coupes. However, I can't see it really being seen as a classic as it has never really held any status, e.g. in motorsport or in the motoring 'consciousness'; the only exception is possibly in drift/modifying scenes.

I really liked my 370Z, even if it doesn't really fit in a bracket (too heavy for a sports car, not refined enough for a GT, not practical enough for yadda yadda, etc.).

Sure, that covers low supply. But low supply on its own isn't enough - where is the high demand going to come from?

I really don't see it becoming a future classic, no way.

You only need to look at the Mazda Xedos 6 to see that. Very few were ever about and even though they're a decent enough car a used one is worth nothing (think £600 tops for a mint one with under 100k miles). Very difficult to find a used one at all (usually 2-3 on sale at any time) and most of those are nails.

[liner33]

I have to say I have lost far less in two years of 370z ownership than I thought I would, both 350z and 370z prices seem pretty strong really after the initial 3yr heartbreak of course because they are bloody expensive new, cheap insurance and maintenance helps, not a lot that younger drivers can get in for similar money really

Future classic? Who knows doubt it but when a Mk3 Escort can go for £60k its anyone's guess

The days of rwd Jap performance cars is coming to an end.

[JockySteer]

I was hoping the NA AMG Mercs would start to appreciate a bit now. Probably a forlorn hope.

[J4CKO]

addz86 said:

J4CKO said:

addz86 said:

I can't see it, you can pick up a 350z for peanuts and I don't think the 370z was as popular

Define "peanuts", decent 350Z's with a fair few miles up go for 5 grand, not a huge amount but they arent especially cheap for a ten year old car, usually anything cheaper is mega miles or an import/Cat D etc.

I paid seven for mine, got it fairly cheap as it needed a few little bits, kept it 26 months and sold it for seven grand.

Petrol prices mean that they are viable now for a lot more people, they dont seem to be dropping in price, the 370Z has further to fall just because they are newer but I cant ever see the tiny pool of cars being super cheap, cheapest 370 is about 13 grand but dont see them going under ten anytime soon, or possibly ever really, they have only sold a couple of thousand in total.

It wasnt that nobody wanted a 370Z it is that they came out when Petrol only seemed to be climbing higher, does anyone really choose a diesel hatch over a V6 Coupe out of choice, or is it practicality and financial constraints ? with petrol being much, much cheaper, how many will be considering that V6 or V8 now ?

For the type of car it is I mean, it was always up against Boxsters, Z4m's and the bigger engine SLK's and they all seemed to hold their money a lot better.
Don't get me wrong they're good cars, if I was to spend 6k on a sports car it'd probably be 350z

Look at the list price when new and what they are worth now, the cars you mentioned were all quite a bit more expensive when new

[J4CKO]

PhillipM said:

No, it'll become a source of engines for kit cars with the rest scrapped, like the 350.

I have never heard of a kit car using a 350Z engine, I am sure it has happened, somewhere but it isnt exactly a cheap option an engine wise there are better options at much less money, so it isnt like they are all being scrapped for their engines, where did you get that nugget from ?

[TooMany2cvs]

boombastictiger said:

I was wondering what the chances of the 370z becoming a future classic

<sigh>
It might or might not be a "future classic" now.
It might or might not be a "classic" in the future.

But it won't "become a future classic"...

Both are, of course, and will always remain a matter of personal opinion. If you think it'll be a classic (iyo) in the future, then it's a future classic (iyo) now. Others may agree or not.

[Ug_lee]

I reckon it will follow the same trend as old the old n/a 300ZX. So will be worth buttons even 25 years down the line.

[J4CKO]

Ug_lee said:

I reckon it will follow the same trend as old the old n/a 300ZX. So will be worth buttons even 25 years down the line.

The car that was never officially imported to the UK ?

The car that is 140 bhp down on a 370Z ?

The car that is usually auto and is dog slow and overshadowed by the turbo version ?

There was no massively more powerful 370Z, everything else has gone turbo, so perhaps maybe the last honest to goodness RWD coupe might actually do better than a crap, import only version of its granddad ?

Not saying its going to be worth a fortune but comparing it with not very special versions of the 300ZX doesnt seem fair, decent 300 ZX TT's command decent money nowadays.

[lostnfound]

I think they will always be overshadowed by the Skyline and GT-R, so I doubt they will ever be more than 'interesting' in much the same way the 300ZX and Mitsubishi 3000GT are.

[TREMAiNE]

J4CKO said:

Ug_lee said:

I reckon it will follow the same trend as old the old n/a 300ZX. So will be worth buttons even 25 years down the line.

The car that was never officially imported to the UK ?

The car that is 140 bhp down on a 370Z ?

The car that is usually auto and is dog slow and overshadowed by the turbo version ?

There was no massively more powerful 370Z, everything else has gone turbo, so perhaps maybe the last honest to goodness RWD coupe might actually do better than a crap, import only version of its granddad ?

Not saying its going to be worth a fortune but comparing it with not very special versions of the 300ZX doesnt seem fair, decent 300 ZX TT's command decent money nowadays.

You do make a fair point, however the only Japanese sports cars that are really holding their value and/or appreciating are the true icons...

The NSX, RX-7 Spirit R and the R34 Skyline GTR all fetch handsome sums, but that is (mostly) it for Jap sport cars from the last 25 years.

MK IV Supra's, 'Regular' RX-7's, S15 Silvia's and the like all fetch decent money these days - £7,000 - £12,000 for good examples but even they're not skyrocketing yet - and they're cars with a massive fanbase, cars that kids of the Playstation grew up wanting to own (I'm one of that generation). Cars like the Mitsubishi 3000GT or Nissan 300ZX don't usually fetch good prices, they're never received anywhere near the same recognition as other Jap sports cars. The 370z will probably follow in a similar fashion. I'm not saying its a bad car, I'm sure its not. It might be worth a fair amount in 50 years time, but in the next 15 its only going to go down.

[Catatafish]

TooMany2cvs said:

<sigh>
It might or might not be a "future classic" now.
It might or might not be a "classic" in the future.

But it won't "become a future classic"...

Both are, of course, and will always remain a matter of personal opinion. If you think it'll be a classic (iyo) in the future, then it's a future classic (iyo) now. Others may agree or not.

I'm glad you set right this heinous issue.

[CABC]

TooMany2cvs said:

<sigh>
It might or might not be a "future classic" now.
It might or might not be a "classic" in the future.

But it won't "become a future classic"...

Both are, of course, and will always remain a matter of personal opinion. If you think it'll be a classic (iyo) in the future, then it's a future classic (iyo) now. Others may agree or not.

well....

the E-type is a classic.
the last na M3 is a future classic (arguably).
the 370 is, today, not a 'future classic'. It may become a classic in, say, 25 yrs. So in about 15 yrs it might 'become a future classic'.

[Dynamic Turtle]

It will become a classic eventually, but it’ll take 40 years (like the 240z) and will probably be an absolute rust-bucket nightmare like its antecedent. In this segment the E46/90 M3 and Cayman S/R will get all the glory and you’d be mad to buy a 370Z as a better investment prospect than either of those particularly given the values the Germans are trading at and irrespective of how many were sold (speaking as a former 350Z and current 370Z Nismo owner). Look at the Z3M coupe versus the 300ZX (contemporaries separated by a few years and £20k RRP) and you’ll see the the Z3M has held its value much better – even high milers. The Z4M is already going up in value and its only been out of production for 7 years, the 350Z isn’t.

Both the M cars and porkers have nicer powertrains and chassis’ than the 350 or 370. Don’t get me wrong I’m a die-hard Z-head and love my cars, but they’re not investment pieces.

If I had £6k to buy afuture jap classic my money would go on the cleanest Mk1 MX5 or Integra Type R (DC2/DC5) I could find.

[Adamski69]

simples, no.

[TheLuke]

Nada, will follow the same trend as the 350z, which is following the same trend as the 300zx.

350z's will be shed territory in the next 5 years. Then the drift community will buy them all up and bash them, much like 328's now.

Then, just maybe, the good ones may rise in value(like a 328 also)

[J4CKO]

Dynamic Turtle said:

It will become a classic eventually, but it’ll take 40 years (like the 240z) and will probably be an absolute rust-bucket nightmare like its antecedent.

Probably, cant say I have seen any rust on a 350Z ?

I think Nissan did a bit of work on rustproofing in the thirty years between the old Datsuns and the 350Z.

The BMWs rust worse than Nissans and destroy their floors requiring extensive surgery, the Nissan is stronger.

As for Shed Territory, they are never going to drop below a grand, the market is such that they change hands for fairly decent money, anything less than four is viable for breaking for parts, a set of wheels is £600, engine £1500, etc etcthat may change but doesnt seem to have, I sold mine for what I paid for it after over two years.

Cant compare a 50k limited run M car to a 28k rank and file model, the 350Z is more comparable to the 3.0 Z4 and price wise, new, it was nearer to the 2 litre.

I quite enjoyed mine, it wasnt the last word in anything but they arent going to get any cheaper than they are now, especially seeing as petrol is cheap and looks like it will be for a while.

[Gilhooligan]

PhillipM said:

No, it'll become a source of engines for kit cars with the rest scrapped, like the 350.

What kit cars use the 350z engine, out of interest?

[Justin Case]

No reason why it shouldn't become an established classic in a few years time, perhaps when the early ones are about 15 years old? On the other hand why should something automatically become more valuable as soon as it is recognised as a classic? The very best few will probably become more valuable, but the gap between them and the rest will just grow larger.

[shelf1985]

Gilhooligan said:

What kit cars use the 350z engine, out of interest?

Think im right in saying theres a ferrari cali that uses a 350z as a donor car. We are talking just a handful though so bit of a weird comment maybe, Rather have the 350z personally