Selling my Brother's SEAT Leon - one attempting to scam me!
Discussion
iluvmercs said:
Just the initial contact was through AT. As when sending an email through a PistonHeads profile, you send the initial message and any reply goes straight the personal email address of the original sender.
Darren
OK - forward to me any mail she sent direct to you and I'll have a peek. Forward the mail as an attachment. Right click the mail, save as, and then attach to a mail to me. Darren
I'll post up here what I did so anyone will be able to do it. Use a subject like gassing.
If anyone else wants me to locate them, send a mail too! (Not from gmail!) I'll do the first 5 with gassing as a subject. Please stick your screen names in here in the mail as I don't want to publish your email addresses.
list@mancuska.com - It's pretty well spam protected....
cwis said:
iluvmercs said:
Just the initial contact was through AT. As when sending an email through a PistonHeads profile, you send the initial message and any reply goes straight the personal email address of the original sender.
Darren
OK - forward to me any mail she sent direct to you and I'll have a peek. Forward the mail as an attachment. Right click the mail, save as, and then attach to a mail to me. Darren
I'll post up here what I did so anyone will be able to do it. Use a subject like gassing.
If anyone else wants me to locate them, send a mail too! (Not from gmail!) I'll do the first 5 with gassing as a subject. Please stick your screen names in here in the mail as I don't want to publish your email addresses.
list@mancuska.com - It's pretty well spam protected....
I sent them back a less-than-helpful reply and I've heard no more from "Barbara Zola".
Now I just need to shift the car - SHAMELESS PLUG
Darren
It will be a waste of time reporting to autotrader or similar. They dont give a damn. Happy to take your money, but no interest in policing the service. I had a car advertised on Ebay, then saw my pics & bogus ad on AT. took me 2 days to get it removed. Also search for any car, the cheapest is nearly always a blindingly obvious scam. Why cant they employ 1 person to search & remove them. A schooleaver could do it!. Do they ever pursue & prosecute scammers?. Must be easy, but i doubt that they bother somehow
Thank god I found this website when i googled autotrader scams anglesey. I had the exact same worded email from a "sarah gordon" (sargnd1@gmail.com). Like people said it seemed legitimate to start with although I thought it was weird that "she" asked for more photos when there were 9 already on the website and it doesnt take a genius to click on them to see them! It got weirder and weirder though and so am glad I googled it! This is what I received from newest to oldest...
DETAILS & SHIPPING ARRANGEMENT
From: Sarah Gordon (sargnd1@gmail.com)
Sent: 28 December 2009 18:21:36
Good Evening,
I would just like to clarify exactly what i'm asking you to do so that you will really understand everything.
Once i have all your details below to make the payment out to you first thing tomorow morning, i will also send all my details to you as well in returns, in order to complete the V5 Registration document, you will not be sending it or filling it out until thepayment has CLEARED.
You will require my full name and full address ready to fill out section 6 for the 'New Keeper' when the sipping agent arrives.
You shall also fill out section 10 'New Keeper Supplement'
You have to put the registration form in the glove box with the service history and stuff but then said it needed to be sent to the DVLA? I understand that upon completion of the sale you will be sending it immediately to the DVLA and will not leave it with the car.
The only thing you will be happy to leave in the glove box with all the other paperwork is the 'New Keeper Supplement' section 10 at MY discretion. You must retain section 10.
The vehicle would only be released and the title documents once your bank has confirmed the cleared funds." From the moment your bank confirm the money has cleared the amount of £7,200 for the vehicle is yours, and the shipping agent will be available for collection, after you have contacted me to inform me that payment is cleared.
I just want you to be aware that i am deaf,my partner would ring you as soon as the payment has been sent.
The shipping agent and my auto mechanic will make use of the funds left to come down to your location for the pick up arrangements i.e shipping expenses and tax.
You will take the fund left to any nearby local western union agency around you and send it to the shipping agent,i shall provide you their details as soon as the funds is cleared into your bank account.
I shall give you £200 for your efforts and transfer charges
I would give you my full information in advance of who i'm sending and the I.D they will be showing you. I will also give them a photocopy of my driving liciense and 1 other proof of I.D (I.E - Utility Bill) I hope you understand this.
So right now am going to instruct my business associate to send you a payment in total sum of £11,400 in your name and it's going to be post to you via a postal mail which had already cover your asking price and the shipping expenses.
Upon reciept of my email confirming the above details to both our satisfaction.
I'll need your data for the payment, viz;
FULL NAME.... POSTAL ADDRESS.. MOBILE PHONE #.....LAND PHONE #
Many Thanks, I await your response
Cheers
Sarah
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, wrote:
Dear Sarah,
Thanks for your email. You mentioned that you had seen the car on the web page? There are nine photographs on there that show the interior and exterior well. Did you see them all as you mentioned only seeing one photograph? If you clicked on the link to the advert they should all be there. Otherwise I can email them to you but it will take several emails as the photographs are large files. Let me know if you still want me to do that.
I would be very happy to reserve the car for you and accept your offer, however I just wanted to clarify a few things with you first. Bankers draft would be fine with me. You mentioned that you live in Anglesey and cannot travel so I was wondering how you were planning to collect the vehicle? I am not a dealership so cannot easily offer shipping there for you. The only way that that would be possible would be if I was to drive there and somehow get a train back which I am not keen to do. I am in most days so collection of the car shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know what you were planning to do and I am happy to work with you in any way I can to help. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:04:33 +0000
Subject: MY OFFER
From: sargnd1@gmail.com
To:
Good Morning,
Thanks for your quick response and am also excited to hear from you that the vehicle is still available for sale.
And thanks for the information you just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why am purchasing this vehicle is because My self and my partner just need one additional vehicle.
Please i want you to email me more pictures aside from the one on web advert page if is still available both the exterior and interior.
Due to my condition i will not be able to view the vehicle at present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel,like wise my partner is away.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of the vehicle which i saw on the advert page i'm fully satisfied.
I want you to accept my offer of £7,200 inclusive the advert fees just because I know what the worth of the vehicle ,and also for you to reserve the vehicle for me.
The only way you will release the vehicle to any one is when the cash is in your hand, i.e. payments cleared at bank, and withdrawn.
I am located at Llanfairpwll in Anglesey
I will only required your full name and your postal address, so that the bankers draught could be posted to you via royal mail.
My preffered method of payment is by bankers draft in a (GBP) which may take 4 to 5 working days to Clear.
Please note that you will only release the vehicle until you have received confirmation from your bank that the payment has been given value and cleared.
I hope to hear from you today in order to proceed further with the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
I look forward to hear back from you today.
Cheers
Sarah
Dear Mrs Gordon,
Thanks for your enquiry. Yes the car is still for sale. I am the second owner and I bought it from a toyota dealership around 18 months ago. I have all the paperwork since I have had it and the manuals and service documentation from the previous owner. It is in good condition with no previous or current mechanical problems. There are some superficial scratches to the front passenger and driver bodywork. I am currently living near Bristol. I am only selling it as I am moving overseas in the near future. I would really like 7000 for it (it was recently valued at 7800 but I took some off for the scratches and as the MOT/TAX are coming up) but maybe able to negotiate slightly if you were interested in taking it off me before the MOT is due. Many thanks for your enquiry and I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:11:29 +0000
> From: sargnd1@gmail.com
> To:
> Subject: Enquiry
>
>
> Please note this e-mail is from an interested customer not from Auto Trader.
>
> Never reply to an e-mail that asks for personal information or copies of your vehicle documentation including the V5C. Keep vehicle documentation and details regarding your vehicle including your VIN number secure at all times.
>
> If you are in doubt regarding an e-mail you have received, report it immediately to enquiries@autotrader.co.uk or call us on 0845 345 3450.
>
> The following customer is interested in the vehicle you are advertising on
> http://www.autotrader.co.uk
>
> Received: 27 December 2009 22:11
>
> Customer Details:
> NAME: MRS sarah gordon
> TELEPHONE:
> EMAIL: sargnd1@gmail.com
>
> Vehicle Details:
> MAKE: TOYOTA
> MODEL: RAV-4
> PRICE: £7000
>
> Message:
> Good Evening,
> I am really interested in your Vehicle listed for sale on auto trader website.
> I will like to know if you still have it for sale.
> Are you the first owner?
> Did you have all the paper work and the receipt of purchase for documentation?
> What is your last asking and the present condition?
> The area for the pick up and lastly the reason for offering it for sale.
> Thanks and i look forward to hear from you today ASAP
> Cheers
> Sarah
>
I thought the language was weird and assumed that English wasn't their first language. When they said they were deaf that also made it more believable as my family works with deaf people and their written English isn't always grammatically correct. Why would shipping cost over 4000 pounds for goodness sake?! Why did her auto mechanic need to come too? Sounds like they send you the bankers draft which clears but then the bank claim the funds back from you in the end and they have your nice car to sell on...Just wish I hadnt wasted my time replying in the first place! Just hope no-one falls for this scam. I have emailed autotrader to let them know. Fingers crossed I might get an actual buyer soon...
DETAILS & SHIPPING ARRANGEMENT
From: Sarah Gordon (sargnd1@gmail.com)
Sent: 28 December 2009 18:21:36
Good Evening,
I would just like to clarify exactly what i'm asking you to do so that you will really understand everything.
Once i have all your details below to make the payment out to you first thing tomorow morning, i will also send all my details to you as well in returns, in order to complete the V5 Registration document, you will not be sending it or filling it out until thepayment has CLEARED.
You will require my full name and full address ready to fill out section 6 for the 'New Keeper' when the sipping agent arrives.
You shall also fill out section 10 'New Keeper Supplement'
You have to put the registration form in the glove box with the service history and stuff but then said it needed to be sent to the DVLA? I understand that upon completion of the sale you will be sending it immediately to the DVLA and will not leave it with the car.
The only thing you will be happy to leave in the glove box with all the other paperwork is the 'New Keeper Supplement' section 10 at MY discretion. You must retain section 10.
The vehicle would only be released and the title documents once your bank has confirmed the cleared funds." From the moment your bank confirm the money has cleared the amount of £7,200 for the vehicle is yours, and the shipping agent will be available for collection, after you have contacted me to inform me that payment is cleared.
I just want you to be aware that i am deaf,my partner would ring you as soon as the payment has been sent.
The shipping agent and my auto mechanic will make use of the funds left to come down to your location for the pick up arrangements i.e shipping expenses and tax.
You will take the fund left to any nearby local western union agency around you and send it to the shipping agent,i shall provide you their details as soon as the funds is cleared into your bank account.
I shall give you £200 for your efforts and transfer charges
I would give you my full information in advance of who i'm sending and the I.D they will be showing you. I will also give them a photocopy of my driving liciense and 1 other proof of I.D (I.E - Utility Bill) I hope you understand this.
So right now am going to instruct my business associate to send you a payment in total sum of £11,400 in your name and it's going to be post to you via a postal mail which had already cover your asking price and the shipping expenses.
Upon reciept of my email confirming the above details to both our satisfaction.
I'll need your data for the payment, viz;
FULL NAME.... POSTAL ADDRESS.. MOBILE PHONE #.....LAND PHONE #
Many Thanks, I await your response
Cheers
Sarah
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, wrote:
Dear Sarah,
Thanks for your email. You mentioned that you had seen the car on the web page? There are nine photographs on there that show the interior and exterior well. Did you see them all as you mentioned only seeing one photograph? If you clicked on the link to the advert they should all be there. Otherwise I can email them to you but it will take several emails as the photographs are large files. Let me know if you still want me to do that.
I would be very happy to reserve the car for you and accept your offer, however I just wanted to clarify a few things with you first. Bankers draft would be fine with me. You mentioned that you live in Anglesey and cannot travel so I was wondering how you were planning to collect the vehicle? I am not a dealership so cannot easily offer shipping there for you. The only way that that would be possible would be if I was to drive there and somehow get a train back which I am not keen to do. I am in most days so collection of the car shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know what you were planning to do and I am happy to work with you in any way I can to help. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:04:33 +0000
Subject: MY OFFER
From: sargnd1@gmail.com
To:
Good Morning,
Thanks for your quick response and am also excited to hear from you that the vehicle is still available for sale.
And thanks for the information you just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why am purchasing this vehicle is because My self and my partner just need one additional vehicle.
Please i want you to email me more pictures aside from the one on web advert page if is still available both the exterior and interior.
Due to my condition i will not be able to view the vehicle at present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel,like wise my partner is away.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of the vehicle which i saw on the advert page i'm fully satisfied.
I want you to accept my offer of £7,200 inclusive the advert fees just because I know what the worth of the vehicle ,and also for you to reserve the vehicle for me.
The only way you will release the vehicle to any one is when the cash is in your hand, i.e. payments cleared at bank, and withdrawn.
I am located at Llanfairpwll in Anglesey
I will only required your full name and your postal address, so that the bankers draught could be posted to you via royal mail.
My preffered method of payment is by bankers draft in a (GBP) which may take 4 to 5 working days to Clear.
Please note that you will only release the vehicle until you have received confirmation from your bank that the payment has been given value and cleared.
I hope to hear from you today in order to proceed further with the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
I look forward to hear back from you today.
Cheers
Sarah
Dear Mrs Gordon,
Thanks for your enquiry. Yes the car is still for sale. I am the second owner and I bought it from a toyota dealership around 18 months ago. I have all the paperwork since I have had it and the manuals and service documentation from the previous owner. It is in good condition with no previous or current mechanical problems. There are some superficial scratches to the front passenger and driver bodywork. I am currently living near Bristol. I am only selling it as I am moving overseas in the near future. I would really like 7000 for it (it was recently valued at 7800 but I took some off for the scratches and as the MOT/TAX are coming up) but maybe able to negotiate slightly if you were interested in taking it off me before the MOT is due. Many thanks for your enquiry and I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:11:29 +0000
> From: sargnd1@gmail.com
> To:
> Subject: Enquiry
>
>
> Please note this e-mail is from an interested customer not from Auto Trader.
>
> Never reply to an e-mail that asks for personal information or copies of your vehicle documentation including the V5C. Keep vehicle documentation and details regarding your vehicle including your VIN number secure at all times.
>
> If you are in doubt regarding an e-mail you have received, report it immediately to enquiries@autotrader.co.uk or call us on 0845 345 3450.
>
> The following customer is interested in the vehicle you are advertising on
> http://www.autotrader.co.uk
>
> Received: 27 December 2009 22:11
>
> Customer Details:
> NAME: MRS sarah gordon
> TELEPHONE:
> EMAIL: sargnd1@gmail.com
>
> Vehicle Details:
> MAKE: TOYOTA
> MODEL: RAV-4
> PRICE: £7000
>
> Message:
> Good Evening,
> I am really interested in your Vehicle listed for sale on auto trader website.
> I will like to know if you still have it for sale.
> Are you the first owner?
> Did you have all the paper work and the receipt of purchase for documentation?
> What is your last asking and the present condition?
> The area for the pick up and lastly the reason for offering it for sale.
> Thanks and i look forward to hear from you today ASAP
> Cheers
> Sarah
>
I thought the language was weird and assumed that English wasn't their first language. When they said they were deaf that also made it more believable as my family works with deaf people and their written English isn't always grammatically correct. Why would shipping cost over 4000 pounds for goodness sake?! Why did her auto mechanic need to come too? Sounds like they send you the bankers draft which clears but then the bank claim the funds back from you in the end and they have your nice car to sell on...Just wish I hadnt wasted my time replying in the first place! Just hope no-one falls for this scam. I have emailed autotrader to let them know. Fingers crossed I might get an actual buyer soon...
I've recieved exactly the same e-mail when selling my car. I'm stringing the scammer along at the moment they asked for phone numbers so I gave them greater manchester polices.... 
Here is their latest e-mail
Good Morning
How are you today, Hope fine and splendid?
Thanks so much for all the details
I had forward the details to my associate to make out the payment to you this morning.
I am just writing you to let you know that the payment has been dispatch this morning,so kindly look forward to receiving the payment.
After which the funds is well received by you,directives as regards the shipment will be given so that the shipment can be done in your location.
So therefore,once payment is received,I will advise you get it deposited in your banking account in other to facilitate quick release of the fund to you.
Since you have known that i have made an arrangement for the shipment of the (Vehicle) by my private shipping agent for the pick up of the (Vehicle) from your location,once the money has CLEARED.
More so get the Vehicle ready for shipment and if i may ask the present location of the Vehicle and the name of the nearest Air-Port to your location so that it can be noted by the shipper that will be coming for the consignment.
For you to fill the V5LOG BOOK you can have all my details below, and also for your record purpose.
Once again here is my appreciations
I will be awaiting your response with the news of the payment shortly, so that i will be rest assure that you receive my email.
Mrs Sarah Hannah Gordon
80 Trem Eryri,Llanfairpwll.Anglesey.Ll61 5jf
United Kingdom
DATE OF BIRTH(03-02-1980)
Cheers
Sarah
Think I might send Sarah a letter I think shes a victim of identity theft as I traced the original email from somewhere in Doncaster....
Andy
Here is their latest e-mail
Good Morning
How are you today, Hope fine and splendid?
Thanks so much for all the details
I had forward the details to my associate to make out the payment to you this morning.
I am just writing you to let you know that the payment has been dispatch this morning,so kindly look forward to receiving the payment.
After which the funds is well received by you,directives as regards the shipment will be given so that the shipment can be done in your location.
So therefore,once payment is received,I will advise you get it deposited in your banking account in other to facilitate quick release of the fund to you.
Since you have known that i have made an arrangement for the shipment of the (Vehicle) by my private shipping agent for the pick up of the (Vehicle) from your location,once the money has CLEARED.
More so get the Vehicle ready for shipment and if i may ask the present location of the Vehicle and the name of the nearest Air-Port to your location so that it can be noted by the shipper that will be coming for the consignment.
For you to fill the V5LOG BOOK you can have all my details below, and also for your record purpose.
Once again here is my appreciations
I will be awaiting your response with the news of the payment shortly, so that i will be rest assure that you receive my email.
Mrs Sarah Hannah Gordon
80 Trem Eryri,Llanfairpwll.Anglesey.Ll61 5jf
United Kingdom
DATE OF BIRTH(03-02-1980)
Cheers
Sarah
Think I might send Sarah a letter I think shes a victim of identity theft as I traced the original email from somewhere in Doncaster....
Andy
google p-p-p power book scam / prank, read it and do something similar?
link below;
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
link below;
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
Edited by MrWhale on Thursday 14th January 10:29
Guess who I heard from yesterday and again this morning...Sarah Gordon from Anglesey. I checked out google as thought it was a bit sus and found your comments. Thanks so much for posting this!
Please see below for emails:
Good Morning,
Thanks for your quick response and am also excited to hear from you that the vehicle is still available for sale.
And thanks for the information you just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why am purchasing this vehicle is because My self and my partner just need one additional vehicle.
Please i want you to email me more pictures aside from the one on web advert page if is still available both the exterior and interior.
Due to my condition i will not be able to view the vehicle at present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel,like wise my partner is away.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of the vehicle which i saw on the advert page i'm fully satisfied.
I want you to accept my offer of £8,200 inclusive the advert fees just because I know what the worth of the vehicle ,and also for you to reserve the vehicle for me.
The only way you will release the vehicle to any one is when the cash is in your hand, i.e. payments cleared at bank, and withdrawn.
I am located at Llanfairpwll in Anglesey
I will only required your full name and your postal address, so that the bankers draught could be posted to you via royal mail.
My preffered method of payment is by bankers draft in a (GBP) which may take 4 to 5 working days to Clear.
Please note that you will only release the vehicle until you have received confirmation from your bank that the payment has been given value and cleared.
I hope to hear from you today in order to proceed further with the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
I look forward to hear back from you today.
Cheers
Sarah
2010/1/14 Paula Paton <paulapaton77@yahoo.co.uk>
hi there,
Yes the car is still for sale. My husband started a new job on the 12th January and he gets a company car thus the sale. we bought it from Arnold Clark (Glasgow) last February and paid £9,000 for it. we have had no problems with it at all.
It is taxed till end of august and we are in the Bellshill (Lanarkshire) area.
Condition is excellent and therefore as we paid £9,000.00 for it a year ago we would be looking for £8,000.00 ono.
Please advise if you are still interested.
Kind regards
Paula
From: "sargnd1@gmail.com" <sargnd1@gmail.com>
To: paulapaton77@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 16:18:11
Subject: Enquiry
Please note this e-mail is from an interested customer not from Auto Trader.
Never reply to an e-mail that asks for personal information or copies of your vehicle documentation including the V5C. Keep vehicle documentation and details regarding your vehicle including your VIN number secure at all times.
If you are in doubt regarding an e-mail you have received, report it immediately to enquiries@autotrader.co.uk or call us on 0845 345 3450.
The following customer is interested in the vehicle you are advertising on
http://www.autotrader.co.uk
Received: 14 January 2010 16:17
Customer Details:
NAME: MRS sarah gordon
TELEPHONE:
EMAIL: sargnd1@gmail.com
Vehicle Details:
MAKE: PEUGEOT
MODEL: 407
PRICE: £8000
Message:
Good Afternoon,
I am really interested in your Vehicle listed for sale on auto trader website.
I will like to know if you still have it for sale.
Are you the first owner?
Did you have all the paper work and the receipt of purchase for documentation?
What is your last asking and the present condition?
The area for the pick up and lastly the reason for offering it for sale.
Thanks and i look forward to hear from you today ASAP
Cheers
Sarah
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Please see below for emails:
Good Morning,
Thanks for your quick response and am also excited to hear from you that the vehicle is still available for sale.
And thanks for the information you just gave about the vehicle and am quite delighted to hear from you that the vehicle is still in great conditions.
The reason why am purchasing this vehicle is because My self and my partner just need one additional vehicle.
Please i want you to email me more pictures aside from the one on web advert page if is still available both the exterior and interior.
Due to my condition i will not be able to view the vehicle at present because i'm heavily pregnant,and the distance as well.
My personal circumstances do not allow me to travel,like wise my partner is away.
According to the Features of the vehicle and the Full Description of the vehicle which i saw on the advert page i'm fully satisfied.
I want you to accept my offer of £8,200 inclusive the advert fees just because I know what the worth of the vehicle ,and also for you to reserve the vehicle for me.
The only way you will release the vehicle to any one is when the cash is in your hand, i.e. payments cleared at bank, and withdrawn.
I am located at Llanfairpwll in Anglesey
I will only required your full name and your postal address, so that the bankers draught could be posted to you via royal mail.
My preffered method of payment is by bankers draft in a (GBP) which may take 4 to 5 working days to Clear.
Please note that you will only release the vehicle until you have received confirmation from your bank that the payment has been given value and cleared.
I hope to hear from you today in order to proceed further with the payment and shipping arrangements as soon as possible.
I look forward to hear back from you today.
Cheers
Sarah
2010/1/14 Paula Paton <paulapaton77@yahoo.co.uk>
hi there,
Yes the car is still for sale. My husband started a new job on the 12th January and he gets a company car thus the sale. we bought it from Arnold Clark (Glasgow) last February and paid £9,000 for it. we have had no problems with it at all.
It is taxed till end of august and we are in the Bellshill (Lanarkshire) area.
Condition is excellent and therefore as we paid £9,000.00 for it a year ago we would be looking for £8,000.00 ono.
Please advise if you are still interested.
Kind regards
Paula
From: "sargnd1@gmail.com" <sargnd1@gmail.com>
To: paulapaton77@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 16:18:11
Subject: Enquiry
Please note this e-mail is from an interested customer not from Auto Trader.
Never reply to an e-mail that asks for personal information or copies of your vehicle documentation including the V5C. Keep vehicle documentation and details regarding your vehicle including your VIN number secure at all times.
If you are in doubt regarding an e-mail you have received, report it immediately to enquiries@autotrader.co.uk or call us on 0845 345 3450.
The following customer is interested in the vehicle you are advertising on
http://www.autotrader.co.uk
Received: 14 January 2010 16:17
Customer Details:
NAME: MRS sarah gordon
TELEPHONE:
EMAIL: sargnd1@gmail.com
Vehicle Details:
MAKE: PEUGEOT
MODEL: 407
PRICE: £8000
Message:
Good Afternoon,
I am really interested in your Vehicle listed for sale on auto trader website.
I will like to know if you still have it for sale.
Are you the first owner?
Did you have all the paper work and the receipt of purchase for documentation?
What is your last asking and the present condition?
The area for the pick up and lastly the reason for offering it for sale.
Thanks and i look forward to hear from you today ASAP
Cheers
Sarah
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SR06 said:
I received a very similar communication when I was selling my Mk5 R32. You have to give the Nigerians 10/10 for trying though. I reckon we should start scamming them in return...although I bet they aren't as gullible as some in the UK
I do wonder what their percentage sucess rate is - not that I guess many people would admit to being scammed 
MrWhale said:
google p-p-p power book scam / prank, read it and do something similar?
link below;
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
That is excellent, glad someone is taking the scammers onlink below;
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
Edited by MrWhale on Thursday 14th January 10:29
Just to let you know that this "sarah gordon" is continuing to email sellers via Autotrader, and we received exactly the same string of emails as the others noted above. She offered over the odds for the car, and all the same blarney about a cleared banker's draft, but unless one pregnant, deaf woman needs four new cars in a month, there is something going on! Don't touch this person with a bargepole. I have contacted autotrader to report this, and said I'm happy to forward them or the police her correspondence .... will update if I hear anything.
In the meantime, perhaps they could feature this on "the real hustle", cos I still can't quite figure it out!
Anyone who isn't "sarah gordon" want to buy a nice shiny blue beetle?!
In the meantime, perhaps they could feature this on "the real hustle", cos I still can't quite figure it out!
Anyone who isn't "sarah gordon" want to buy a nice shiny blue beetle?!
I got one of these too, from the Gordons - she was deaf but had also become heavily pregnant so couldn't view the car, practically broken-english-word for broken-english-word when I was selling my 147. Out of boredom, I coughed up and advertised it through autotrader - something I'll never do again, as every email I received was a scam, I decided to string it out up to a point.
So I'm now in possession of a cheque for £7000, the car was up for £2500, amazingly the Gordons are willing to spend £4000 on transporing the car (£500 was for me to keep because they're nice like that).
Strangely, despite 'living' in Anglesey the RBS cheque was made out in feminine handwriting (Those weird circles over the i's) stamped by a 'finance manager' and sent from Rennes, France.
After ignoring their persistent emails asking if the cheque has arrived I got this today:
Good Evening,
Please i want you to be honest with me,
Did you receive the payment today.
Cheers
Mr Gordon
'Honest with me'? Ha Ha.
So I'm now in possession of a cheque for £7000, the car was up for £2500, amazingly the Gordons are willing to spend £4000 on transporing the car (£500 was for me to keep because they're nice like that).
Strangely, despite 'living' in Anglesey the RBS cheque was made out in feminine handwriting (Those weird circles over the i's) stamped by a 'finance manager' and sent from Rennes, France.
After ignoring their persistent emails asking if the cheque has arrived I got this today:
Good Evening,
Please i want you to be honest with me,
Did you receive the payment today.
Cheers
Mr Gordon
'Honest with me'? Ha Ha.
Edited by JamesJTS on Friday 22 January 10:58
JamesJTS said:
I got one of these too, from the Gordons - she was deaf but had also become heavily pregnant so couldn't view the car, practically broken-english-word for broken-english-word when I was selling my 147. Out of boredom, I coughed up and advertised it through autotrader - something I'll never do again, as every email I received was a scam, I decided to string it out up to a point.
So I'm now in possession of a cheque for £7000, the car was up for £2500, amazingly the Gordons are willing to spend £4000 on transporing the car (£500 was for me to keep because they're nice like that).
Strangely, despite 'living' in Anglesey the RBS cheque was made out in feminine handwriting (Those weird circles over the i's) stamped by a 'finance manager' and sent from Rennes, France.
After ignoring their persistent emails asking if the cheque has arrived I got this today:
Good Evening,
Please i want you to be honest with me,
Did you receive the payment today.
Cheers
Mr Gordon
'Honest with me'? Ha Ha.
My uncle cashed a cheque like this for his 05 mondeo , and he was promptly arrested at the bank So I'm now in possession of a cheque for £7000, the car was up for £2500, amazingly the Gordons are willing to spend £4000 on transporing the car (£500 was for me to keep because they're nice like that).
Strangely, despite 'living' in Anglesey the RBS cheque was made out in feminine handwriting (Those weird circles over the i's) stamped by a 'finance manager' and sent from Rennes, France.
After ignoring their persistent emails asking if the cheque has arrived I got this today:
Good Evening,
Please i want you to be honest with me,
Did you receive the payment today.
Cheers
Mr Gordon
'Honest with me'? Ha Ha.
Edited by JamesJTS on Friday 22 January 10:58
Really? That's pretty unfair on him, on what charge? I got the cheque wrong earlier, it was a 'Bank of Scotland' not RBS. I gave them a call a few hours ago to report it. Despite it being an interesting story ,glad they were that I had told them, and it having THIS IS A SCAM written all over it; they said that because no crime had actually been committed I was best reporting it to the police to investigate.
Bear in mind that a fake bank draft can clear BUT when they run the audit trail it can be identified as a fraud and the money re-taken from your account up to six months later (IIRC).
As noted above, the ONLY true bankers draft is the one you see being drawn from the bank with your own eyes.
Why not ask her to post you cash.. Or better yet, tell her you have a friend in her area who will pop over to see her Tomorrow to collect cash rather than a bankers draft, so just ask her address.....
As noted above, the ONLY true bankers draft is the one you see being drawn from the bank with your own eyes.
Why not ask her to post you cash.. Or better yet, tell her you have a friend in her area who will pop over to see her Tomorrow to collect cash rather than a bankers draft, so just ask her address.....
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